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 MRT 3 Canceled. HSR Canceled.

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post Jun 15 2018, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(HELLO HELLO @ Jun 15 2018, 01:59 AM)
Where flight stop? and where HSR stop? manyak stops at different state. no need go far far to sepang.
driving distance +jam got add in boh?.. add 10 minutes here 30 minutes there....keep add on+++ manyak ler.. capacity different for both? what fuel HSR use and flight use?
accident rate and surviving chansi? how bout disable pipu which 1 more easier ?
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depends where you stay lah…..distance to HSR station or KLIA. Not everyone stays at WOTP you know. You think going into Bdr Malaysia to board a HSR during rush hours is easier than going KLIA during rush hours?
Whoa now talk abt fuel consumption and carbon offset?????? you know what energy creates electricity in Malaysia?
Aircrafts have the lowest fatality rate in the world.
disable ppl, depends on infrastructure.

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post Jun 15 2018, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jun 15 2018, 11:29 AM)
depends where you stay lah…..distance to HSR station or KLIA. Not everyone stays at WOTP you know. You think going into Bdr Malaysia to board a HSR during rush hours is easier than going KLIA during rush hours?
Whoa now talk abt fuel consumption and carbon offset?????? you know what energy creates electricity in Malaysia?
Aircrafts have the lowest fatality rate in the world.
disable ppl, depends on infrastructure.
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tongue.gif many stay near or around sepang to take flights? everyone stay sepang KLIA? HSR got few stops on different state. biggrin.gif no need die die must go BM if you stay near to other state icon_idea.gif Rush hour in KL you can have many interchange transports at least you sampai KL liao.. a city business+finance+tourist place just 1 or 2 mrt stops away. biggrin.gif
at least better than petrol? of coz with nuke 4th G plant even better for 0% carbon footprint. if aircraft once jialat basically everyone also jialat.
for disable ppl at least less procedure for them and HSR also at least is well connected with other infrastructure wink.gif

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post Jun 15 2018, 12:28 PM

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Being fiscally prudent is a good thing. The removal of gst will be a boon.

In the future these projects might be revisited. If the government feels that at the moment less of these projects is better due to the debt burden, i dont think that is a bad thing.

Most importantly, i think the change in government is a positive thing for the country. In my opinion the mrt projects will probably be revisited in the future, when the population co tinues to grow, many of these larger scale projects become more viable.
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post Jun 15 2018, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Jun 15 2018, 10:04 AM)
Bus RM10
Grab RM65 not inclusive toll. Can pick you up / drop you right at your doorstep. Can fit 4 pax.

Klia express best rate should be rm35 or below.
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you forget liao to put per person or how many people can fit icon_idea.gif

Bus RM10. per pax... cheapest..but more hassle.

Grab RM65. standard up to 4 pax. if 3 pipu take better than Klia liao. just may jam jam on road. but can door to door. hebat ini macam

Klia express rm35. for 1 person yes... sure best rate and less hassle. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif but no door to door

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post Jun 15 2018, 02:09 PM

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I rather wait for japan experts to do study with the current traij lines and make recom.

Whatever examples ppl give here...apa apa cina cities hsr or taiwan hsr....you guys all missed out one point....our hsr involved 2 countries.

Perhaps we should first implementing hsr from penang to jb.
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QUOTE(michaelchang @ Jun 15 2018, 09:23 AM)
just use KLIA express to predict the number of riders in the future..

RM$55 one way, how many people ride/day? profit/loss?

using same distance, how much will HSR charge? affordable to Malaysian? or just depend on rich foreigners?
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Good point..
From ERL can guess how many would use HSR already...
Profit? Huh.. Loss from day 1...
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jun 15 2018, 02:09 PM)
I rather wait for japan experts to do study with the current traij lines and make recom.

Whatever examples ppl give here...apa apa cina cities hsr or taiwan hsr....you guys all missed out one point....our hsr involved 2 countries.

Perhaps we should first implementing hsr from penang to jb.
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😄 yes, I like your point.. the hsr from jb to Penang. More practical actually. If boleh In future Sambung further north to Thai. 👍

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QUOTE(HELLO HELLO @ Jun 15 2018, 09:15 PM)
😄 yes, I like your point.. the hsr from jb to Penang. More practical actually. If boleh In future Sambung further north to Thai. 👍
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thai very protective of their country. they wont get easy loan from cina to build de.

speaking of 3rd national car, I wish TUN will invite international car makers to develop (only) electric cars, not petrol cars. the market is too crowded already.
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QUOTE(oldies1950 @ Jun 15 2018, 10:11 AM)
I am staying in Klang. Walking distance to a planned LRT station.

However the MRT 3 should be postponed. Many things was done at a RUSH. And DIRECT Negotiated. Note the MRT3 companies are link to Jibby croonies.

MRT 2 is not even completed yet. Why start MRT 3 ?

MRT 3 ridership is suspected. That is,  it wont NOT earn back the MONEY.

Note KTM2 is being build. As such WILL compete with LRT3. Why 2 systems ?

There are many questions that need to be answered.

POSTPONE it .
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Well all MRT project won't earned money...
Its just like that because lack of ridership to break even.. Just look at MRT 1... So empty... Only time I see its full is during the free ride time.. Damn... So much people.. Parking also zero place.. Now... Easy parking.. Less people. Almost none in the train...

MRT 3, needed to be review.. So much of it is underground... Seems like someone is benefits from the tunneling job... That's why cost super high... There's needed to minor adjustment on the proposed route...

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QUOTE(Cabinda @ Jun 16 2018, 04:39 AM)
I was wondering how the fk moderator allow this kopitiam talk in property talk.. most of the discussion is about transportation, doesn't seems to be part of property.. this show how fking bias is moderator towards some of the property thread like cyberjaya.. most cyberjaya thread got removed.. in lyn there is no watchdog to monitor those incompetence moderator?
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Since when mod is acting fairly🤔🤔🤔
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Meh...
Suddenly Cyberjaya issues pop up...
Totally forgotten about it...
Have better things to talk about...
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post Jun 16 2018, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(Cabinda @ Jun 16 2018, 04:39 AM)
I was wondering how the fk moderator allow this kopitiam talk in property talk.. most of the discussion is about transportation, doesn't seems to be part of property.. this show how fking bias is moderator towards some of the property thread like cyberjaya.. most cyberjaya thread got removed.. in lyn there is no watchdog to monitor those incompetence moderator?
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infrastructure road and transportation system have no direct link to property?

I thought in cyber thread, fansi talked abt MEx2 extension, MRT to putra and etc??????? even jack ma opens distribution hub in KLIA also cherished by Cyberlovers and claimed as cyber victory?

not to mention ioi mall is belongs to cyber too.
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jun 15 2018, 10:08 PM)
thai very protective of their country. they wont get easy loan from cina to build de.

speaking of 3rd national car, I wish TUN will invite international car makers to develop (only) electric cars, not petrol cars. the market is too crowded already.
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Policy may change geh.. now all about globalization. At least the rail is there, if they want sambong good lor can sambung more economic benefits. Other investor saw got such conveniences, sure increase the interest to invest business here and there.

3rd toy car see how lar. We may trap by the Japan loan again if our M go pinjam from them. Jialat. History may repeat.

3rd toy car if can invent something beyond the market then is good. But cronies system susah. Will end up another proton product. And also may bring conflict to malaisio petrol price also.



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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jun 16 2018, 08:13 AM)
Well all MRT project won't earned money...
Its just like that because lack of ridership to break even.. Just look at MRT 1... So empty... Only time I see its full is during the free ride time.. Damn... So much people.. Parking also zero place.. Now... Easy parking.. Less people. Almost none in the train...

MRT 3, needed to be review.. So much of it is underground... Seems like someone is benefits from the tunneling job... That's why cost super high... There's needed to minor adjustment on the proposed route...
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Business Where got direct earn money 1. If direct mean = basically no biz brain n Low standard liao.

Macam World Cup, olympic those seriously can earn money from selling tickets? And ads sponsor? The infra they built for this event can earn back directly? Security arm force for the event they spent can earn back directly?

Must think and earn another way round 1. That is the tools to advance the business if you know how to use it.
Earn big liao. Government can ask for more tax from you.

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jun 16 2018, 08:13 AM)
Well all MRT project won't earned money...
Its just like that because lack of ridership to break even.. Just look at MRT 1... So empty... Only time I see its full is during the free ride time.. Damn... So much people.. Parking also zero place.. Now... Easy parking.. Less people. Almost none in the train...

MRT 3, needed to be review.. So much of it is underground... Seems like someone is benefits from the tunneling job... That's why cost super high... There's needed to minor adjustment on the proposed route...
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So meaning that MRT ticket fare is too expensive?
Free = many ppl
Need to pay = below average crowd
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post Jun 16 2018, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(HELLO HELLO @ Jun 16 2018, 03:58 PM)
Business Where got direct earn money 1. If direct mean = basically no biz brain n Low standard liao.

Macam World Cup, olympic those seriously can earn money from selling tickets? And ads sponsor? The infra they built for this event can earn back directly? Security arm force for the event they spent can earn back directly?

Must think and earn another way round 1. That is the tools to advance the business if you know how to use it.
Earn big liao. Government can ask for more tax from you.
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Hmm...
I'm noobie... So how does one earn??
Teach me please 🙏
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Jun 16 2018, 04:28 PM)
So meaning that MRT ticket fare is too expensive?
Free = many ppl
Need to pay = below average crowd
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Hmm.. Hard to say its expensive too... I feel is okay...
One reason I can think is because Malaysian love free stuff... Anything given free.. All take only.. Just look at festivals open house... Bring Tupperware & plastic container...
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jun 16 2018, 06:03 PM)
Hmm...
I'm noobie... So how does one earn??
Teach me please 🙏
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Jibbylisation
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jun 16 2018, 09:26 PM)
Jibbylisation
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Cannot work now since different parties ruling...
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i wonder if they gonna cancel ECRL tho?

wat's your thought about tat? high chances of keeping or high chances to have the same fate as MRT3 & HSR?

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