QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Jun 12 2018, 11:38 PM)
The picture they show is old mrt 2 route ler. Their Info also show wrongly.MRT 3 Canceled. HSR Canceled.
MRT 3 Canceled. HSR Canceled.
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Jun 13 2018, 11:10 AM
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Jun 13 2018, 11:15 AM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jun 13 2018, 10:06 AM) Tun subscribed to the believe that Ini bukan India TaTa car punya tagline meh? NOW EVERYBODY CAN DRIVE everybody wants MRT3, seriously how many of us here actually using MRT1? its hugely under-utilised kau kau. MRT2 going to Putra. I wonder how many people actually stay in putra and cyber. Maybe Dr m origin also there. Wakaka You are so lucky you don’t need mrt. But manyak not in lowyat here may even need mrt a lot ler. |
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Jun 13 2018, 11:36 AM
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QUOTE(GangHo @ Jun 13 2018, 08:15 AM) My opinion, HSR is not value for money due to the followings:- Aiya, manyak public infrastructure tak untung 1. But the hidden profit manyak mah. Also help manyak other business mah especially sme, also attract more investors mah. When business good pipu can cari Makan then gov can collect more tax mah. Rugi this pocket but can untung more in another pocket mah.Due to its high construction cost, the fares will be very high. And when there are existing cheaper alternatives, most people would resort for cheaper alternatives unless for something more urgent. The train will not be frequented by normal passengers but for the rich. It might be full during festive season but not the normal days. So in the end, HSR is only good for urgent business dealings, richer travellers and festive season. When alternative options allow you to arrive at your destination the same day, the faster HSR is not so attractive. Dont forget one needs to first travel to HSR station first. and for the trains with multiple stops, its going to take longer time. Ru see singland sibeh pandai. Tak kisah rugi. Sponsor manyak $ to North Korea leader to singland meeting with trump. You sees singland gov spent liao too manyak $. But the huge hidden profit and future profit sibeh kao kao good. Sibeh good investment, return sibeh kao good. When Business growing and sibeh good then Good for gov can collect more more tax mah. This pocket out another pocket even more in mah. Why always want to to get the $ back to the same pocket? This post has been edited by HELLO HELLO: Jun 13 2018, 11:45 AM |
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Jun 13 2018, 12:28 PM
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QUOTE(HELLO HELLO @ Jun 13 2018, 11:36 AM) Aiya, manyak public infrastructure tak untung 1. But the hidden profit manyak mah. Also help manyak other business mah especially sme, also attract more investors mah. When business good pipu can cari Makan then gov can collect more tax mah. Rugi this pocket but can untung more in another pocket mah. I pening reading this even though you're not spinningRu see singland sibeh pandai. Tak kisah rugi. Sponsor manyak $ to North Korea leader to singland meeting with trump. You sees singland gov spent liao too manyak $. But the huge hidden profit and future profit sibeh kao kao good. Sibeh good investment, return sibeh kao good. When Business growing and sibeh good then Good for gov can collect more more tax mah. This pocket out another pocket even more in mah. Why always want to to get the $ back to the same pocket? |
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Jun 13 2018, 12:30 PM
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Support Tun M but on MRT3, I disagree his decision. If the project to be postponed is ok, but pls don’t cancel.
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Jun 13 2018, 01:17 PM
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QUOTE(Blues03 @ Jun 13 2018, 12:30 PM) Support Tun M but on MRT3, I disagree his decision. If the project to be postponed is ok, but pls don’t cancel. Ya, if postpone 10 to 20 years. Macam not much different from cancel. Wakaka. If except mrt. Mean you support him on this? he need more $ to build back his always rugi $ “car empire”. Lagi jialat now he went to Japan ask for loan. Pinjam yen.. Really Jiakaolat not the first time. Last time already kena liao. Now History repeat. If Malasiao rm Lagi Turun or yen go up, even free interest fee also cannot pay back the loan. This post has been edited by HELLO HELLO: Jun 13 2018, 04:15 PM |
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Jun 13 2018, 02:07 PM
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QUOTE(HELLO HELLO @ Jun 13 2018, 11:15 AM) Ini bukan India TaTa car punya tagline meh? M said he is Malay and not half Indian by dint of his fatherMaybe Dr m origin also there. Wakaka You are so lucky you don’t need mrt. But manyak not in lowyat here may even need mrt a lot ler. and M's father is not Indian But originally, his great, great grandfather was Indian. so now M has few spoonfuls of blood left in his body else his is a Malay |
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Jun 13 2018, 04:28 PM
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QUOTE(Ckmwpy0370 @ Jun 13 2018, 02:07 PM) M said he is Malay and not half Indian by dint of his father See how lar. Last time because 1 of this issue from many issues. Have to gantung usd in rm3.5 or rm4.. forget liao. Around that.and M's father is not Indian But originally, his great, great grandfather was Indian. so now M has few spoonfuls of blood left in his body else his is a Malay Later another fall, have to gantung in 1usd to rm5.... jagaolat...liao Why can’t he learn from ytl? Ytl sibeh smart move, all term loan in ringgit. Because of that. During 1998 recession didn’t hit ytl much. Good for him not to agree he has any blood relationship with India.... (but his face already macam india) wakakaka. Actually India susah do business, even Indian in malasiao go back to motherland do biz also kena sue kao kao. Macam our Malaysian ulta rich tycoon ananda the ASTRO and maxis big boss. Kena sue by india gov like shit and now he is 1 of the most wanted “criminal” in India. Will airasia big boss be the next?...lol This post has been edited by HELLO HELLO: Jun 13 2018, 05:10 PM |
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Jun 13 2018, 04:57 PM
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ringgit was pegged at 3.8usd
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Jun 14 2018, 03:01 PM
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This is good article on some questions need to be understand about KL-Singapre HSR. happy reading http://www.thesundaily.my/news/2018/06/14/...ed-rail-dilemma |
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Jun 14 2018, 04:19 PM
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QUOTE(Ckmwpy0370 @ Jun 14 2018, 03:01 PM) This is good article on some questions need to be understand about KL-Singapre HSR. First question is questionable, doubt about writer's knowledge. Got KL-SG express maa...happy reading http://www.thesundaily.my/news/2018/06/14/...ed-rail-dilemma First, the proposed 350km HSR track between Bandar Malaysia in Kuala Lumpur and Jurong East in Singapore includes six stations in between – Putrajaya, Seremban, Air Keroh, Muar, Batu Pahat and Iskandar Putri. Will the short distances between some stations allow the HSR to move continuously at high speed? High speed is usually defined as a rate faster than 250kmh. This post has been edited by mroys@lyn: Jun 14 2018, 04:20 PM |
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Jun 14 2018, 05:20 PM
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Be more fiscally responsible lah. Dun simply spend the governments money. Debt already 1 trillion.
Ringgit was at rm3 to 1 usd before gst was implemented. Now oil price recover, its not hard to imagine that it will recover back to that lvl. |
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Jun 14 2018, 07:55 PM
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Cost of HSR is one thing..
The total ridership another issues.... Ticket only won't cover operation cost... Property development & advertising needed to supplement the income... |
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Jun 14 2018, 08:58 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jun 14 2018, 07:55 PM) Cost of HSR is one thing.. Why always think like that “this pocket money out, must put back money is same pocket”? The total ridership another issues.... Ticket only won't cover operation cost... Property development & advertising needed to supplement the income... If think like that forever can never untung back 1 lar. Even after canceled/postpone then put back and build. Will still making loss 1. If only think Earn back from tickets or property development or ads sure die lar. Think another way mah “this pocket money out and another pocket money in.” Or even better “this pocket money out, later both pockets also ada money in.” Now save all the money let the M do his 3rd local toy car.... Lagi Mati I tell you... wakaka. Save money by canceling hsr mrt but waste kao more money in toy car.... jialat In future if malaisao go bankrupt. We all can go buy tickets ride car liao. This post has been edited by HELLO HELLO: Jun 14 2018, 09:09 PM |
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Jun 14 2018, 10:27 PM
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Actual ride time 90min
Clearing custom both size 30min Going to station...wont save that much time Arrive earlier...at least 30mins Cost of ticket likely more expensove than flighr See how many ppl still take hsr |
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Jun 15 2018, 01:59 AM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jun 14 2018, 10:27 PM) Actual ride time 90min Where flight stop? and where HSR stop? manyak stops at different state. no need go far far to sepang.Clearing custom both size 30min Going to station...wont save that much time Arrive earlier...at least 30mins Cost of ticket likely more expensove than flighr See how many ppl still take hsr driving distance +jam got add in boh?.. add 10 minutes here 30 minutes there....keep add on+++ manyak ler.. capacity different for both? what fuel HSR use and flight use? accident rate and surviving chansi? how bout disable pipu which 1 more easier ? This post has been edited by HELLO HELLO: Jun 15 2018, 02:01 AM |
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Jun 15 2018, 07:16 AM
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QUOTE(flight @ Jun 14 2018, 05:20 PM) Be more fiscally responsible lah. Dun simply spend the governments money. Debt already 1 trillion. Myr1trillion minus usd110b(reserve) ..how much?Ringgit was at rm3 to 1 usd before gst was implemented. Now oil price recover, its not hard to imagine that it will recover back to that lvl. |
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Jun 15 2018, 09:23 AM
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just use KLIA express to predict the number of riders in the future..
RM$55 one way, how many people ride/day? profit/loss? using same distance, how much will HSR charge? affordable to Malaysian? or just depend on rich foreigners? |
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Jun 15 2018, 10:04 AM
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QUOTE(michaelchang @ Jun 15 2018, 09:23 AM) just use KLIA express to predict the number of riders in the future.. Bus RM10RM$55 one way, how many people ride/day? profit/loss? using same distance, how much will HSR charge? affordable to Malaysian? or just depend on rich foreigners? Grab RM65 not inclusive toll. Can pick you up / drop you right at your doorstep. Can fit 4 pax. Klia express best rate should be rm35 or below. |
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Jun 15 2018, 10:11 AM
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QUOTE(tikaram @ May 30 2018, 03:14 PM) But the problem is MRT 1 ridership is so shit. Every month bleeding money kau kau now. I am staying in Klang. Walking distance to a planned LRT station.No point to construct MRT3. later need to bail out kau kau again. I support MRT 3 scrap However the MRT 3 should be postponed. Many things was done at a RUSH. And DIRECT Negotiated. Note the MRT3 companies are link to Jibby croonies. MRT 2 is not even completed yet. Why start MRT 3 ? MRT 3 ridership is suspected. That is, it wont NOT earn back the MONEY. Note KTM2 is being build. As such WILL compete with LRT3. Why 2 systems ? There are many questions that need to be answered. POSTPONE it . |
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