Tunneling already progressing well..
Total project completion is around 15% already...

2 or 3 years...

I remembered correctly...
Those project completed around end of 90"..
Ridership pick up like around year 2004, when there's massive hike in petrol prices....

Yeap doesnt make sense to take MRT which suppose cheaper if not faster or more convenient. Unless you are within walking distance i suppose

When they did the forecast Uber & Grab still didn’t exist mah!

That’s why these things have to be built ahead of its time. You never know maybe Grab becomes monopoly and increase the price or oil price goes up to $200?

Good point..
Grab Monopoly is the risk...

Oil price to $200?? Hmm.. I have doubt.. There's still lot of reserved left... Many still unexplored yet... Max I think around $100 to $120 only 🙏 then I'm sure our pump price would be rm3/liter 😈

People can’t see clearly now, they only see cheap oil / car and VC-funded-subsidized Uber & Grab are fast and cheap. Everything runs in cycle, only those prepare for whats coming will be ahead of others.

Many new generations have not experienced hardship or recession before.

This post has been edited by value_investor: Jun 1 2018, 11:30 AM

I think MRT3, HSR cancellations are part of the process of 'cleaning up' the federal budget from 'bloated' projects from all BN-linked/cronies companies.
Once the budget is streamlined and the process completed, perhaps Pakatan Harapan will introduce and implement their own Transport Master plan.
I would not be surprised if Pakatan Harapan would introduce some of the element of Selangor Transportation master plan 2-3 years down the road.
Perhaps these projects may get the green light
a) MRT extension west (Sg Buluh - Emina west - Denai Alam)
b) LRT extension (Putra Height - Kota Kemuning; Gombak - Selayang - Kepong; Bandar- utama kepong)
c) LRT Circle line North ( Rawang - Puncak alam - Elmina - Bukit Subang - Bukit Jelutong- Shah Alam
d) LRT Circle Line South (Shah Alam - Kota Kemuning - Bandar Rimbayu - Cyberjaya - Putrajaya)

Together all these projects will form a giant outer Circle line for the greater Klang Valley. Linking MRT1, MRT2 and LRT.
The Selangor LRT circle line north and south would form the western loop from Sungai Buloh to Putrajaya.

Let's see what happen in the next few years. Finger cross.

Link to Selangor Transport Master plan discussion
http://dewan.selangor.gov.my/assets/pdf/se...lan%20Mulut.pdf

This post has been edited by willyboy88: Jun 1 2018, 11:48 AM


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For public transport to be popular, beside convenience, fare has to be affordable. with amount of donations paid for mrt 1 and 2, fare couldn't be affordable and operator will loss money for decades.

the only practical solution to reset mrt3 cost is to cancel and reconsider before or after next ge.

soon or later oil may will going to cheap again, now because of cutting oil production and some trade restrictions to certain oil countries... but getting manyak electric car liao. some countries even set a deadline to end the petrol car. china also 1 of the country now full force switching petrol car to electric car for less depend on oil. the electric car sale is sibeh crazy and going up every year. soon will getting less and less petrol car user. in the same time china even full speed to develop self driving car technology to more mature stage.

This post has been edited by HELLO HELLO: Jun 1 2018, 11:56 AM

yea hor....if got self driving car services...who need HSR to Singapore :-)
Might as well use the money to expand highway from 6 lanes to 8 lanes with dedicated self driving car lane from KL to Singapore/Johor. hahaha

many ppl still need a car because the MRT shuttle bus or MRT station is not near to their home....
that is the problem

second is the design/planning of the city, just road for car but no pavement for ppl to walk, i only see nice nice pavement in Putrajaya / Cyberjaya area ....

another thing is the MRT fare calculation and I am not agree with them.

Sungai Buloh to 1 Utama is more expensive than Sungai Buloh to KL Sentral, they explained why in their FAQ but it is non-sense...

Sometimes, i wonder people who wish these rail projects to be scrapped because of altruism or just their houses are affected by the alignment? Haha, guess everybody is selfish!

Hope they don't cancel Penang undersea tunnel to Butterworth and PORR! These are Lim Guan Eng brainchilds of course they wouldn't be cancelled even we're budget constrained!

This post has been edited by value_investor: Jun 1 2018, 12:48 PM

If electric cars revolution really happen maybe many people will think twice before owning a car? As the charging time is still quite high now, China encourages electric car by limiting combustion cars permits.

if totally full self driving car no need too many lanes liao... max just need 2 to 3 lines.

also no need traffic light, all computerised calculation no need to stop for traffic light anymore.

of coz HSR is cut down the travel time. from KL to singland just 90mins. from penang to singland just 180mins?


or maybe invest something even better? the Hyperloop technology from Penang reach Singland may just need 45 mins only or even less

This post has been edited by HELLO HELLO: Jun 1 2018, 01:00 PM

all and all still need to see how our government encourage boh. if really pushing for it. also need set more electric pump station liao.

ru see china government sibeh encourage and keep pushing for it. manyak electric pump station also setting up liao.

yea yea...wait 5-15 more years and leapfrog to the next generation rail technology e.g hyperloop or next gen maglev.
https://medium.com/shanghaiist/china-wants-...ph-2282d96149eb
https://beam.land/tech/china-spearheads-res...ast-trains-1020
https://www.engadget.com/2018/03/19/n700s-bullet-train/

This post has been edited by willyboy88: Jun 1 2018, 01:07 PM

where do we get electricity? all environmental friendly energy?

90mins.

fight only 45mins and cost less.......

and dun argue with me its more convienence and bla bla bla. you still need to go thru two customs and security checks just like taking flight.