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post Jul 18 2007, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Jul 18 2007, 07:11 PM)
Omigosh.. 24 hours no reply.. if this keep up we might be at the bottom.

If we cant sustain this thread all hope is lost i tell you, ALL HOPE IS LOST!!
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post Jul 18 2007, 10:49 PM

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Off topic for abit, anyone going to Celgames this weekend?
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post Jul 18 2007, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Jul 18 2007, 10:22 PM)
Vs Crons forget about vespid harassing Crons.

Since vespid doesnt do imba building dmg so Vespid is kinda useless. The best is to TC harass + hard tech to get macross missle.

Forget Kroot.. Free NW will prawn u.
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Yeah that seems to be the trick, tier 2 tech. Hell of a lot of micro to fend off the assault tho. Necron can almost go to sleep.


Added on July 18, 2007, 11:19 pmHow often you guys play online? Might give it a shot this weekend - I'm currently practicing against computer on hard mode.

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post Jul 18 2007, 11:46 PM

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Ok did the tier 2 tech rush. It seems that the computer AI fubars up tho if I push them too hard? You can see them pathing aimlessly.

Here's my replay.


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post Jul 19 2007, 03:45 AM

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QUOTE(Ravana @ Jul 18 2007, 10:49 PM)
Off topic for abit, anyone going to Celgames this weekend?
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I think of going for it on sunday. Depending on my schedule.

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Necron can almost go to sleep.


they is tricks to kill-em. First are snare traps.. place em everywhere to impend their advances. Early game use your TC flamer, Once a squad morale is drain, its doesnt matter's it has 8 dudes firing you, and Last is your FW placement.

FW should be place in a peel formation so that 1 FW can cover another FW that way it can take out NW wave while keeping your men at save distance.
Your largest threath is solar pulse.. this can practically destroy your barrage.

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I'm currently practicing against computer on hard mode


complete insane mode first than we can talk business.

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Your Faith is strong but it wont change the outcome.








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post Jul 19 2007, 08:07 AM

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Yeah I know about snares and flamers, but that doesn't change my point. In comparison to the amount of micro a Tau has to do, the Nec can just about go to sleep. There's no extra effort from the Nec, they just do whatever they normally do. Of course Tau is the most micro intensive race now, there's tons of micro to do against any other race. But against these other races they have to adapt. Necs can just casually counter just about anything with little difficulty.

And yeah I know I gotta defeat it on insane mode first. But you gotta ramp up slowly. No point trying to beat national team when you can't even get a point against state. smile.gif
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post Jul 19 2007, 09:00 AM

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Necron is the worst matchup for Tau. Throughout the experience I had during the off world mission, massing fw + snare trap + TC seems the only way Tau has against Necron. But you have to beware of NL solar + wraiths, thus positioning your fw is the key here. Dont stick them around as fw movement speed is wicked slow, so spam snare trap and do aggro capping and camping.

Tau is not the most micro intensive race yet, eldar is. And yes, necron is the micro least race but when it comes to higher level play, planning and time management is very important for necron, one wrong step can simply leads you to doom. And that "step" inclusive of capping order and BO. And necron has hard time against some races as well, and they are map dependant as well.
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QUOTE(Hunt @ Jul 18 2007, 10:32 PM)
I will be dead before i allow this thread to fall......Faith is eternal....
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Same.

This thread will not fall.

QUOTE(bryan @ Jul 18 2007, 11:10 PM)
How often you guys play online? Might give it a shot this weekend - I'm currently practicing against computer on hard mode.
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Bryan,which ai are you using?Is the the stock ai?

I recommend you to get the AI mod to practice.They are much better than Relic's ai if you want to train offline for now.

If you want someone to play with online,maybe i can play with you since im still a newbie to this.

Im available to play on the afternoon and im trying to avoid playing at night.My connection is damn laggy at night.

QUOTE(redeye84 @ Jul 19 2007, 03:45 AM)
Your Faith is strong but it wont change the outcome.
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Dont lose your faith,brother.We will hold on.

Guys,do you want me compile a list of high quality mods and maps to put on the first page?
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post Jul 19 2007, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Jul 19 2007, 03:45 AM)
Your Faith is strong but it wont change the outcome.
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So is your foul mouth excom, not only you turned away from the light of the Emperor you continue to spread poison around here. Watch your back for the Inquisition.

Say... I was thinking up a challenge to spread the LYNK banner far and wide into the DOW:DC ladder. But I would guess most of us are tie down one way or another. Let me know if any of u are interested

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QUOTE(Waba @ Jul 19 2007, 10:12 AM)
Say... I was thinking up a challenge to spread the LYNK banner far and wide into the DOW:DC ladder. But I would guess most of us are tie down one way or another. Let me know if any of u are interested
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I would like to do that but i cant play on DC ladder.AA is not working at all.
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post Jul 19 2007, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jul 19 2007, 10:20 AM)
I would like to do that but i cant play on DC ladder.AA is not working at all.
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U using a router? Model number?

Have u tried

www.portforward.com

yet?
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post Jul 19 2007, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(Waba @ Jul 19 2007, 10:24 AM)
U using a router? Model number?

Have u tried

www.portforward.com

yet?
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I know how to port forward and i have tried almost everything i can do.Maxis is blocking all the NAT ports.I only can join games at the lobby.

I have even switch off my firewall and use DMZ mode on my router,i still fail the java test.

I can play in GS but i can only join games.I cant host at all.
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QUOTE(bryan @ Jul 19 2007, 08:07 AM)
Yeah I know about snares and flamers, but that doesn't change my point. In comparison to the amount of micro a Tau has to do, the Nec can just about go to sleep. There's no extra effort from the Nec, they just do whatever they normally do. Of course Tau is the most micro intensive race now, there's tons of micro to do against any other race. But against these other races they have to adapt. Necs can just casually counter just about anything with little difficulty.

And yeah I know I gotta defeat it on insane mode first. But you gotta ramp up slowly. No point trying to beat national team when you can't even get a point against state. smile.gif
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U are talking about how to defeat a hard necron computer?? Computer Hard always start with higher resources than human player. No point we are discussing how to defeat a cheater computer and emotionless machine. if u want to talk about proper strategy, get to play it online/hamachi with us. then u post up the replays and we will discuss.

You talk like Tau is the most micro intensive race. Have you play Eldar yet? You still not yet see how Tau is destructive against other race. Basically, the most micro intensive units in Tau are Vespid and Tau commander. No other. I dont have DOW installed on my PC, otherwise we can do reverse engineer where u play as Necron vs my Tau.

some tau replay from me, you can count how many units i lost.

Attached File  Tau_replay.zip ( 194.71k ) Number of downloads: 2



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QUOTE(Waba @ Jul 19 2007, 10:24 AM)
U using a router? Model number?

Have u tried

www.portforward.com

yet?
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Port forward doesnt help if he is using Maxis HSPDA broadband. Maxis blocked most of the ports and limited to 3GB data traffic with an unacceptable reason.

QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jul 19 2007, 10:27 AM)
I know how to port forward and i have tried almost everything i can do.Maxis is blocking all the NAT ports.I only can join games at the lobby.

I have even switch off my firewall and use DMZ mode on my router,i still fail the java test.

I can play in GS but i can only join games.I cant host at all.
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as long as u have the 6112 UDP openned, u can host game.
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QUOTE(TheNameX @ Jul 19 2007, 09:00 AM)
Necron is the worst matchup for Tau. Throughout the experience I had during the off world mission, massing fw + snare trap + TC seems the only way Tau has against Necron. But you have to beware of NL solar + wraiths, thus positioning your fw is the key here. Dont stick them around as fw movement speed is wicked slow, so spam snare trap and do aggro capping and camping.

Tau is not the most micro intensive race yet, eldar is. And yes, necron is the micro least race but when it comes to higher level play, planning and time management is very important for necron, one wrong step can simply leads you to doom. And that "step" inclusive of capping order and BO. And necron has hard time against some races as well, and they are map dependant as well.
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Eldar's still the most micro across the board, I agree. But it seems like Eldar have more counters against the Necrons in early game. What's NL solar by the way? What does it do?

What races do Necrons have a hard time against? I don't really see how that's possible considering the strength of it's hero, plus it's basic units have both formidable ranged and melee. But do please enlighten me, I'm learning!
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post Jul 19 2007, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(Waba @ Jul 19 2007, 10:12 AM)
Say... I was thinking up a challenge to spread the LYNK banner far and wide into the DOW:DC ladder. But I would guess most of us are tie down one way or another. Let me know if any of u are interested
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Good idea. I second it.
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QUOTE(johnnycp @ Jul 19 2007, 11:16 AM)
U are talking about how to defeat a hard necron computer?? Computer Hard always start with higher resources than human player. No point we are discussing how to defeat a cheater computer and emotionless machine. if u want to talk about proper strategy, get to play it online/hamachi with us. then u post up the replays and we will discuss.

You talk like Tau is the most micro intensive race. Have you play Eldar yet? You still not yet see how Tau is destructive against other race. Basically, the most micro intensive units in Tau are Vespid and Tau commander. No other. I dont have DOW installed on my PC, otherwise we can do reverse engineer where u play as Necron vs my Tau.

some tau replay from me, you can count how many units i lost.

Attached File  Tau_replay.zip ( 194.71k ) Number of downloads: 2


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Hey buddy I'd love to play against you, you got msn so we can arrange a match up?
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post Jul 19 2007, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Jul 19 2007, 03:45 AM)
Your Faith is strong but it wont change the outcome.
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GraySkin, you Iz gonna have your ead stuck on me pike for all that blabberring you be doing ere......

QUOTE(bryan @ Jul 19 2007, 08:07 AM)
Yeah I know about snares and flamers, but that doesn't change my point. In comparison to the amount of micro a Tau has to do, the Nec can just about go to sleep. There's no extra effort from the Nec, they just do whatever they normally do. Of course Tau is the most micro intensive race now, there's tons of micro to do against any other race. But against these other races they have to adapt. Necs can just casually counter just about anything with little difficulty.

And yeah I know I gotta defeat it on insane mode first. But you gotta ramp up slowly. No point trying to beat national team when you can't even get a point against state. smile.gif
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First of all, I applaud you for really being interested in Tau and wanting to be good at it but here's a piece of advice, play necrons and see how it is to face other races as them.....Crons has one of the most disturbing styles of fighting......they need their staying power in battle to ever face any of the other races.....when u fight crons its a race to be stronger than them and then take the fight to them......not trying to kill that magnificent Lord at the first few seconds of the game......you aint no Ork........I still believe that crons are quite difficult to play with an enemy that really knows his race........take pointers from our Necron Lords here or even have a game or two with them to really understand how crons are played in the hands of the race's most devout followers.....

QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jul 19 2007, 10:11 AM)
Same.
This thread will not fall.
Dont lose your faith,brother.We will hold on.
Guys,do you want me compile a list of high quality mods and maps to put on the first page?
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I would like that....cause it also gives exposure to the other orders (modding community) in the DOW universe......

QUOTE(Waba @ Jul 19 2007, 10:12 AM)
So is your foul mouth excom, not only you turned away from the light of the Emperor you continue to spread poison around here. Watch your back for the Inquisition.

Say... I was thinking up a challenge to spread the LYNK banner far and wide into the DOW:DC ladder. But I would guess most of us are tie down one way or another. Let me know if any of u are interested
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Seriously, u need to do a comic with you and red having this verbal fight of honor......like in the DC campaign........i really enjoy seeing the grayskinz test the temper level of the primach and his inquisitional wrath....

QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jul 19 2007, 10:27 AM)
I know how to port forward and i have tried almost everything i can do.Maxis is blocking all the NAT ports.I only can join games at the lobby.

I have even switch off my firewall and use DMZ mode on my router,i still fail the java test.

I can play in GS but i can only join games.I cant host at all.
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Damn, sounds like you have really been blocked......have you asked Maxis, whether they can unblock certain ports for you......


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post Jul 19 2007, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(johnnycp @ Jul 19 2007, 11:16 AM)
Port forward doesnt help if he is using Maxis HSPDA broadband. Maxis blocked most of the ports and limited to 3GB data traffic with an unacceptable reason.
as long as u have the 6112 UDP openned, u can host game.
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My 6112 is open but the other ports are closed.

What port does hamachi use?I think i have to use hamachi and play with you guys only.

QUOTE(bryan @ Jul 19 2007, 01:07 PM)
What races do Necrons have a hard time against? I don't really see how that's possible considering the strength of it's hero, plus it's basic units have both formidable ranged and melee. But do please enlighten me, I'm learning!
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I find Necrons have a hard time against Eldar,due to their mobility.

Necron's NL is one of the most scariest commander in the game,if you know how to use it.

QUOTE(Hunt @ Jul 19 2007, 01:48 PM)
Damn, sounds like you have really been blocked......have you asked Maxis, whether they can unblock certain ports for you......
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No,i think i'll try.
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post Jul 19 2007, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jul 19 2007, 02:14 PM)
No,i think i'll try.
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Glad to hear that.....
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sign ISP suxxor...

Better luck at the cyber cafes..

You guys stop requesting so much comics... Artist are not that free in life to fulfill request. You guys are sounding like Dr. Badman fans.. always requesting for comics in almost every occasion. Only diff is that they always buaya Buggo and we dont.

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