Also what kind of starting wages & allowances are offered for recruits with qualifications of SPM and above.

Those interested can wait for the next recruitment drive or apply online today at: JOM MASUK TENTERA ONLINE APPLICATION
Malaysian Army qualifications, wages & allowances, Can read first, prepare for next drive
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Last month's TDM recruitment drive poster for Perajurit Muda rank. Can see what latest physical & academic requirements are needed to join.
Also what kind of starting wages & allowances are offered for recruits with qualifications of SPM and above. ![]() Those interested can wait for the next recruitment drive or apply online today at: JOM MASUK TENTERA ONLINE APPLICATION |
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May 17 2018, 08:18 AM
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engineering diploma with that starting salary
not bad leh allowance and benefits damn good also |
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May 17 2018, 08:20 AM
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this for pipu who say want to join public servant the easiest way..now is the time
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May 17 2018, 08:21 AM
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how much can a master degree in engineering makes joining the army
inb4 australia pay combat system engineers AUD120k/annum |
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May 17 2018, 08:23 AM
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May 17 2018, 08:24 AM
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QUOTE(amxpayne67 @ May 17 2018, 08:18 AM) Allowances provided:QUOTE GAJI DAN ELAUN ELAUN Elaun Pakaian Istiadat bagi Pegawai RM 1500.00 setiap 3 tahun sekali. Elaun Pakaian Tahunan Pegawai RM 500.00 setahun. Tuntutan perjalanan ke tempat kerja. Elaun Bantuan Sara Hidup. Elaun Kepakaran bagi yang layak. Elaun insentif khas ATM RM 200.00 sebulan. INSENTIF Pemberian insentif bagi anak-anak anggota ATM yang cemerlang dalam UPSR, PMR dan SPM dan tawaran pengajian tinggi. Bonus tahunan (jika ada). Khairat kematian RM3000.00. KEMUDAHAN Rawatan Perubatan Percuma termasuk untuk keluarga dan Ibu Bapa. Wad Kelas 1 di Hospital Kerajaan (Ikut Pangkat). Pinjaman Perumahan/ Kenderaan/ Komputer/ Pendidikan. Rumah Keluarga bagi anggota/pegawai yang telah berkahwin. Penginapan serta sajian di Wisma-wisma mengikut pangkat bagi anggota/Pegawai Bujang. Kemudahan membeli-belah di PERNAMA. Rebet 25% Tambang KTMB. Waran perjalanan. Insuran Kelompok ATM. Peluang melanjutkan pelajaran ke peringkat Diploma/Ijazah Sarjana Muda/Sarjana/PhD dengan tajaan ATM. Cuti Tahunan dengan bilangan hari mengikut pangkat. Kemudahan dan perbelanjaan perubatan bagi anggota tentera dan tanggungan: Rawatan di Hospital Angkatan tentera dan Rumah Sakit Angkatan Tentera seluruh Malaysia. Rawatan di Institut Jantung Negara. Rawatan penyakit buah pinggang di Pusat dialysis swasta. Rawatan kemandulan primer. Rawatan kecemasan di hospital/klinik swasta. Rawatan d luar Negara bergantung kepada syarat-syarat dan peraturan yang telah ditetapkan. Kemudahan perubatan yang tidak dapat dibekalkan/disediakan (ubat, alat, perkhidmatan, perubatan oleh klinik kerajaan) Bantuan perbekalan alatan. Pembekalan alat Ortopedik. Pembekalan kerusi roda. Alatbantu pendengaran. Pembekalan alat-alat lain. Ransum percuma semasa latihan/kursus/bertugas. Latihan Peralihan sebelum Tamat Perkhidmatan. Kemudahan Pinjaman Koperasi Tentera. Keahlian dalam Kelab Rekreasi. Kemudahan Sukan dan Rekreasi. Pinjaman Tabung Pendidikan ATM (TAPAT) dan skim Pinjaman Pendidikan ATM (SPAAT) –Pinjaman Pendidikan Tinggi Tanpa Faedah. Kemudahan Caruman Sukarela Lembaga Tabung Angkatan Tentera (LTAT). |
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May 17 2018, 08:28 AM
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May 17 2018, 08:30 AM
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panggil LTZ masuk..ask him
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May 17 2018, 08:31 AM
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Most of Ktard wouldn't last a week of basic army training..
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May 17 2018, 08:40 AM
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Hopefully the salary increment at least 10% per annum
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I think the army should relax on the physical rules to allow more people to join. I'd join the army but I can't swim, didn't join any sports during school and I wear glasses.
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May 17 2018, 08:55 AM
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QUOTE(internaldisputes @ May 17 2018, 08:44 AM) I think the army should relax on the physical rules to allow more people to join. I'd join the army but I can't swim, didn't join any sports during school and I wear glasses. Don't worry, if still want to serve can still join the Wataniah (Territorial Army), which is a part-time volunteer reserve force. The requirements are much lower than the ATM. Got glasses (low power) can still join.Also obligations is also fewer: go through basic training, 1 weekend each month report to base & every year join 1 month training with the regulars. Otherwise u are free to do what u want and you still keep your job while also serving. |
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Even SPM leavers join the Army can get starting gaji of RM1500 nowadays is a very significant raise.
The old gaji scheme I think for SPM leavers starting gaji is around RM 900 only. |
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May 17 2018, 09:45 AM
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salary scale for military not bad these days.
the major advantage is can get pencen after 20 years of service. This post has been edited by COOLPINK: May 17 2018, 09:45 AM |
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Good luck to all applicants. Thank you for serving.
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IMO Malaysia doesn't have a problem with recruitment, each cycle have always met the recruiting target. That's why the government never did much to promote the ATM to the public.
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ATM and Polis, these two never have issue with recruitment
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minimum weight is 47? typo is it?
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QUOTE(internaldisputes @ May 17 2018, 08:44 AM) I think the army should relax on the physical rules to allow more people to join. I'd join the army but I can't swim, didn't join any sports during school and I wear glasses. I think glasses also should be removed for engineering and technical.one more badan tegap not needed also. |
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Ringkasan Kerjaya Askar Laskar
ASKAR LASKAR Perkhidmatan Askar Laskar dalam Angkatan Tentera Malaysia Seseorang askar laskar akan didaftarkan selama 12 tahun dan dibenarkan menyambung perkhidmatan selama 3 tahun berturut-turut sehingga 21 tahun dan memenuhi syarat-syarat yang ditetapkan. Setelah 21 tahun berkhidmat, anggota tersebut layak menerima pencen. Seorang askar laskar akan meneruskan perkhidmatan di dalam bidang-bidang kemahiran tertentu berdasarkan tred yang telah ditentukan di dalam ketiga-tiga perkhidmatan. Peluang Dalam Perkhidmatan Peluang terbuka luas bagi seorang askar laskar untuk meningkatkan kemahiran melalui kursus-kursus tred sehingga peringkat tertinggi yang dibayar melalui sistem 'pay band'. Dari segi pangkat pula, seorang askar laskar berpeluang untuk diberikan pangkat sepanjang perkhidmatan berdasarkan prestasi dan kecemerlangan kursus-kursus kerjaya. Struktur pangkat askar laskar dalam Angkatan Tentera Malaysia Tentera Darat Pegawai Waran I Pegawai Waran II Staf Sarjan Sarjan Koperal Lans Koperal Prebet Perajurit Muda Tentera Laut Pegawai Waran I Pegawai Waran II Bintara Kanan Bintara Muda Laskar Kanan Laskar Kelas I Laskar Kelas II Laskar Muda Perajurit Muda Tentera Udara Pegawai Waran Udara I Pegawai Waran Udara II Flait Sarjan Sarjan Udara Koperal Udara Laskar Udara Kanan Laskar Kelas I Laskar Udara Perajurit Muda Skim Gaji - Bagi skim gaji askar laskar ATM menggunakan pakai kelayakan kemasukan pelbagai seperti berikut: SPM - Mencapai kredit bagi matapelajaran Bahasa Melayu/Malaysia, serta lulus Matematik, Sains dan Bahasa Inggeris. Gaji permulaan di band 1 adalah setelah lulus Kursus Asas Perajurit Muda selama 6 bulan iaitu RM 1,136.83 manakala gaji maksimum RM 5,474.76. Peluang dan Kemudahan Anggota Angkatan Tentera Malaysia Peluang melanjutkan pengajian di dalam dan luar negara. Perkhidmatan kesihatan dan pergigian percuma di setiap kem/pengkalan. Berek bujang dan rumah keluarga disediakan. Cuti tahun mengikut pangkat. Rebat keretapi dan kapal terbang. Bantuan pendidikan. Bayaran elaun dan insentif sebagai seorang pegawai tentera. Berpeluang untuk ditauliahkan sebagai seorang pegawai tentera. |
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QUOTE(peja5081 @ May 17 2018, 11:53 AM) If most of the population is rabun you may have to adjust the usual rules la. Especially Singapore only have how many people of military age only? Plus their army is conscript based so cannot help la if many civilian conscripts are rabun people. If they start reject rabun conscripts their army would be probably lose half of its people already. If you can get someone who is not rabun, I prefer a not rabun person. This post has been edited by MilitaryMadness: May 17 2018, 11:58 AM |
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Ringkasan Kerjaya Pegawai
PENTAULIAHAN Pegawai Kadet Universiti Pertahanan Nasional Malaysia. - Terdiri dari calon lepasan Sijil Pelajaran Malaysia. - Akan menjalani pengajian di peringkat ijazah pertama (mengikut jurusan) dan latihan ketenteraan. - Akan ditauliahkan dengan pangkat Leftenan Muda dan setaraf setelah dianugerahkan Ijazah Sarjana Muda (Kepujian). - Kenaikan pangkat – setelah menghadiri kursus-kursus tertentu, lulus peperiksaan kenaikan pangkat, kekosongan jawatan dan disokong oleh pegawai atasan. Pegawai Kadet Graduan - Terdiri dari calon yang memiliki Ijazah Sarjana Muda (Kepujian) dalam bidang-bidang yang diperlukan. - Menjalani latihan Pegawai Kadet selama 9 bulan. - Akan ditauliahkan dengan pangkat Leftenan Muda dan setaraf. - Kenaikan pangkat – setelah menghadiri kursus-kursus tertentu, lulus peperiksaan kenaikan pangkat, kekosongan jawatan dan disokong oleh pegawai atasan. JENIS PENTAULIAHAN PEGAWAI ATM: Senarai Tugas Am – Pegawai yang berkelulusan Ijazah Sarjana Muda (Kepujian) dalam bidang-bidang yang diperlukan. Senarai Tugas Ikhtisas – Pegawai yang berkelulusan Ijazah Sarjana Muda (Kepujian) dalam bidang perubatan dan pergigian. Senarai Tugas Khas – Anggota yang ditauliahkan secara terus daripada askar laskar kepada pegawai. KATEGORI PERKHIDMATAN PEGAWAI-PEGAWAI ATM Pegawai Tauliah Jangka Pendek Ditauliahkan selama 10 tahun dan dibenarkan menyambung perkhidmatan selama 3 tahun. Permohonan menyambung perkhidmatan selepas 13 tahun boleh dimajukan ke pihak atasan untuk pertimbangan dan kelulusan. Boleh memohon sebagai pegawai tauliah tetap selepas berkhidmat selama 5 tahun dan memenuhi syarat-syarat yang di tetapkan. Pegawai Tauliah Tetap Jangka masa perkhidmatan adalah tetap sehingga umur persaraan (mengikut pangkat) dan berpencen. KELAYAKAN AKADEMIK DIKEHENDAKI Tentera Darat Malaysia (a) Kejuruteraan dan Arkitek i. Ijazah Sarjana Muda Kejuruteraan Petroleum (Kepujian) ii. Ijazah Sarjana Muda Kejuruteraan Ukur & Geomatik (Kepujian) iii. Ijazah Sarjana Muda Kejuruteraan Persekitaran (Kepujian) iv. Ijazah Sarjana Muda Senibina (Kepujian) v. Ijazah Sarjana Muda Ukur Bahan (Kepujian) (b) Pengurusan Dan Perniagaan i. Ijazah Sarjana Muda Kesihatan dan Keselamatan Persekitaran (Kepujian) ii. Ijazah Sarjana Muda Perakaunan (Kepujian) iii. Ijazah Sarjana Muda Kewangan (Kepujian) iv. Ijazah Sarjana Muda Komunikasi Mass (Perhubungan Awam) (Kepujian) v. Ijazah Sarjana Muda Pengurusan Hotel & Katering (Kepujian) vi. Ijazah Sarjana Muda Sains (Kepujian) Pengurusan Perkhidmatan Makanan vii. Ijazah Sarjana Muda Sains (Kepujian) Seni Kulinari viii. Ijazah Sarjana Muda Pengurusan Hartanah (Kepujian) ix. Ijazah Sarjana Muda Knowledge Management (Kepujian) x. Ijazah Sarjana Muda Facilities Management (Kepujian) xi. Ijazah Sarjana Muda Pengangkutan (Kepujian) xii. Ijazah Sarjana Muda Pengurusan Kerja Sosial (Kepujian) Kajian Jenayah (c ) Sains Sosial Dan Kemanusiaan i. Ijazah Sarjana Muda Perhubungan Dasar Luar Negara (Kepujian) ii. Ijazah Sarjana Muda Psikologi & Kaunseling (Kepujian) iii. Ijazah Sarjana Muda Sains Politik (Kepujian) (d) Lain-lain Jurusan i. Ijazah Sarjana Muda Sains Statistik (Kepujian) ii. Ijazah Sarjana Muda Undang-Undang (Kepujian) iii. Ijazah Sarjana Muda Sains (Kepujian) Remote Sensing ix. Ijazah Sarjana Muda Pengajian Islam (Kepujian) v. Ijazah Sarjana Muda Pendidikan TESL/TESOL (Kepujian) vi. Ijazah Sarjana Muda Bahasa Asing (Jepun/Arab/Perancis/Rusia/Sepanyol) (Kepujian) vii. Ijazah Sarjana Muda Digital Forensic (Kepujian) viii. Ijazah Sarjana Muda Veteriner (Kepujian) Tentera Laut Diraja Malaysia (a) Ijazah Sarjana Muda Senibina (Kepujian) Kapal (b) Ijazah Sarjana Muda Sains (Kepujian) Aktuari © Ijazah Sarjana Muda Undang-Undang(Kepujian) (d) Ijazah Sarjana Muda Seni Muzik (Kepujian) (e) Ijazah Sarjana Muda Kejurteraan (Kepujian) Teknologi Minyak dan Petroleum (f) Ijazah Sarjana Muda Sains (Kepujian) Teknologi Tekstil/Senireka Tekstil |
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May 17 2018, 12:15 PM
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ May 17 2018, 11:57 AM) If most of the population is rabun you may have to adjust the usual rules la. Especially Singapore only have how many people of military age only? Plus their army is conscript based so cannot help la if many civilian conscripts are rabun people. If they start reject rabun conscripts their army would be probably lose half of its people already. half? try 80%If you can get someone who is not rabun, I prefer a not rabun person. its that bad http://bjo.bmj.com/content/85/5/521 |
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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ May 17 2018, 12:15 PM) Haha I was trying to be hyperbolic. Mana I tau IRL lagi teruk dari hyperbolic. This post has been edited by MilitaryMadness: May 17 2018, 12:18 PM |
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May 17 2018, 12:23 PM
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even those in the engineering and IT field need intense physical training ah? hmmm... i thought the army got some go on the field type, then got some is stay at army camp or barracks to prepare la, look at charts... controlling systems, giving information and such?
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QUOTE(tiestoycc @ May 17 2018, 12:23 PM) even those in the engineering and IT field need intense physical training ah? hmmm... i thought the army got some go on the field type, then got some is stay at army camp or barracks to prepare la, look at charts... controlling systems, giving information and such? Like I said earlier, in the army you are a soldier first and foremost. For example, if you are a military IT personnel, it means you are a soldier who happens to be an IT personnel, not an IT personnel who happens to be a soldier. |
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ May 17 2018, 12:28 PM) Like I said earlier, in the army you are a soldier first and foremost. hmmm.. i guess it makes sense, when it comes down to fight or flight, you will still have to stand your ground and fight with everything you've got... you can't just surrender without a fight, still need someone at least capable of putting a good fight.For example, if you are a military IT personnel, it means you are a soldier who happens to be an IT personnel, not an IT personnel who happens to be a soldier. |
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May 17 2018, 12:37 PM
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Why dont recruit perajurit tua ? I wan to join but 40yrs old ..special forces is good oso
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QUOTE(internaldisputes @ May 17 2018, 08:44 AM) I think the army should relax on the physical rules to allow more people to join. I'd join the army but I can't swim, didn't join any sports during school and I wear glasses. then you're not fit for the army ler.you think play play ka. people are going to point a gun at you in war. If you can't even carry a gun how? |
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QUOTE(SuperTuhan @ May 17 2018, 08:40 AM) For SPM prebet rank now annual salary increment is RM 105 from a starting basic salary of RM 1564.80 which is around 7% but of course this will rise according to rank.This table is from TUDM salary & allowances, but nowadays basically it's the same for all the services. ![]() |
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May 17 2018, 12:58 PM
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Ciputnye gaji... Biar betik
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May 17 2018, 01:04 PM
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When is next intake?
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QUOTE(justin jackson @ May 17 2018, 01:04 PM) Ko kalau nak join askar setakat nak kejar gaji memang tak dapat la.Nak masuk askar ni kena pasang niat nak berkhidmat kepada negara dulu, lepas tu baru fikir hal gaji. Lagipun ATM dah bagi semua benda dari makan minum, pakaian & perumahan kat anggota kan? Ko join ATM dah takkan sempat dah nak enjoy gaji ke apa macam org biasa, tak sempat nak belanja pun selalunya. Busy wo! |
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QUOTE(alpha001 @ May 17 2018, 01:08 PM) Keep your eyes peeled. When recruitment drive is open, usually people will post about it here in /k.But for officers usually once a year, usually in December or of January the next year. For other ranks usually 2 times a year, usually in April and August/September. |
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ May 17 2018, 01:10 PM) Ko kalau nak join askar setakat nak kejar gaji memang tak dapat la. Pasang niat natang apa? Orang kerja nak cari duit utk anak bini & mak ayah kat kampung. Ni kira kerja kerajaan jugak kan? Apasal gaji ciput je? Penjawat awam yg dok goyang telor kat ofis tu lagi tinggi gaji depa. Bagilah anak bini enjoy gaji tu, simpan dalam tabung ke... Buat investment ke...Nak masuk askar ni kena pasang niat nak berkhidmat kepada negara dulu, lepas tu baru fikir hal gaji. Lagipun ATM dah bagi semua benda dari makan minum, pakaian & perumahan kat anggota kan? Ko join ATM dah takkan sempat dah nak enjoy gaji ke apa macam org biasa, tak sempat nak belanja pun selalunya. Busy wo! |
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QUOTE(justin jackson @ May 17 2018, 01:15 PM) Pasang niat natang apa? Orang kerja nak cari duit utk anak bini & mak ayah kat kampung. Ni kira kerja kerajaan jugak kan? Apasal gaji ciput je? Penjawat awam yg dok goyang telor kat ofis tu lagi tinggi gaji depa. Bagilah anak bini enjoy gaji tu, simpan dalam tabung ke... Buat investment ke... Ko nak cari duit, pegi buat kerja lain, senang je.Ko cuba la tanya mana-mana askar, diorang join atas sebab apa. Aku jamin 9/10 kata nak berkhidmat pada negara. |
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May 17 2018, 01:21 PM
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QUOTE(justin jackson @ May 17 2018, 01:15 PM) Pasang niat natang apa? Orang kerja nak cari duit utk anak bini & mak ayah kat kampung. Ni kira kerja kerajaan jugak kan? Apasal gaji ciput je? Penjawat awam yg dok goyang telor kat ofis tu lagi tinggi gaji depa. Bagilah anak bini enjoy gaji tu, simpan dalam tabung ke... Buat investment ke... go tell mat sabu to double triple their salary |
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May 17 2018, 01:22 PM
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I think starting Degree you get a rank directly when u join... correct me if this is not true.. same for police force..
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May 17 2018, 01:22 PM
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QUOTE(hirano @ May 17 2018, 01:17 PM) Aiya military training itself will bulk the recruits up la. Don't underestimate those skinny-looking soldiers, they don't have bulk, but most of the time they are very wiry and can jog non-stop for hours. |
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May 17 2018, 01:23 PM
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Wow 2.4km 14 minutes. 6x400m (1 lap of standard track).
Fitness test for young men/women is strict. |
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May 17 2018, 01:23 PM
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QUOTE(justin jackson @ May 17 2018, 01:15 PM) Pasang niat natang apa? Orang kerja nak cari duit utk anak bini & mak ayah kat kampung. Ni kira kerja kerajaan jugak kan? Apasal gaji ciput je? Penjawat awam yg dok goyang telor kat ofis tu lagi tinggi gaji depa. Bagilah anak bini enjoy gaji tu, simpan dalam tabung ke... Buat investment ke... Bangang spotted |
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May 17 2018, 01:25 PM
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ May 17 2018, 01:22 PM) Aiya military training itself will bulk the recruits up la. Don't underestimate those skinny-looking soldiers, they don't have bulk, but most of the time they are very wiry and can jog non-stop for hours. I seen some jewtube army training video, they remain skinny until old. Why not like US army and bomba, all 6 packs. This type baru enemy scared. |
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May 17 2018, 01:26 PM
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QUOTE(popopi @ May 17 2018, 01:22 PM) I think starting Degree you get a rank directly when u join... correct me if this is not true.. same for police force.. True, degree holders can join via pengambilan graduan and straight away be given the rank of Leftenan Muda (2nd Lieutenant). But military training side also kena power la. Later soldiers under you see you lembik no respect you, how to be their leader? |
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May 17 2018, 01:27 PM
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QUOTE(hirano @ May 17 2018, 01:25 PM) I seen some jewtube army training video, they remain skinny until old. Why not like US army and bomba, all 6 packs. This type baru enemy scared. Enemy need to see ur naked body with 6 packs?If they do manage to see ur 6 packs, I think too late already. U kena tangkap alrrhaha. |
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May 17 2018, 01:28 PM
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May 17 2018, 01:28 PM
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May 17 2018, 01:29 PM
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May 17 2018, 01:30 PM
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May 17 2018, 01:30 PM
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May 17 2018, 01:44 PM
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Dunno how they came to this number, but according to Wiki the Malaysian Army has 90,000 active troops and 200,000 reserve troops as of 2017.
Which I doubt somehow. |
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May 17 2018, 02:13 PM
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doubt
and mostly failed then viral rant or something |
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May 17 2018, 02:17 PM
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May 17 2018, 02:30 PM
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May 17 2018, 02:35 PM
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QUOTE(empatTan @ May 17 2018, 02:30 PM) It's more complicated than that. Mostly bcoz the military is given too many limits to make sure the war wouldn't spread and involve China and Russia.I'm sure if the US military was given a free hand in Vietnam, they would've won easily, no questions asked. |
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May 17 2018, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ May 17 2018, 02:35 PM) It's more complicated than that. Mostly bcoz the military is given too many limits to make sure the war wouldn't spread and involve China and Russia. Equipment wise of cos lah. Who can beat americunts?!I'm sure if the US military was given a free hand in Vietnam, they would've won easily, no questions asked. But war is much more than equipment... Some things, Asian armies do much better, let's just say... |
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May 17 2018, 03:26 PM
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QUOTE(mingdynasty @ May 17 2018, 02:17 PM) I make more than combat systems engineer matebut i probably would be eligible since my record is clean. Maybe I'll apply for it one day when the mining and hydrocarbon sectors here experience recession |
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May 17 2018, 03:27 PM
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May 17 2018, 03:37 PM
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QUOTE(empatTan @ May 17 2018, 02:49 PM) Equipment wise of cos lah. Who can beat americunts?! No, i mean policy-wise. I'll try and give a few.But war is much more than equipment... Some things, Asian armies do much better, let's just say... For example: 1) The Soviet Union supplied and operated the new SA-2 SAM systems used by North Vietnam. For the time, the missile was very advanced and shot down a lot of US military planes bombing North Vietnam. Now, this would make you think that this fact should have made the missile complexes target #1 before any bombing operations can begin, but US leaders forbade any attack on the SA-2 missile complexes, for fearing it can possibly kill Soviet missile operators and draw in the Soviets into the war proper. So the SA-2s can shoot down US planes at will. 2) The North Vietnamese Air Force had many Chinese and Soviet 'volunteer' pilots flying its fighter planes. Due to avoid any unnecessary Chinese and Soviet pilots getting killed and drawing both countries into the war, US fighter planes escorting the bombers into North Vietnam had very strict Rules of Engagements (ROE) that forbade them to actively engaging North Vietnamese fighter planes outside of their protection envelope. This meant that North Vietnamese fighter planes can gather their forces at the most tactically advantageous positions just outside the US protection envelope unmolested before swooping in and striking the US planes at any moment of their choosing. 3) US troop operations are to be limited in scope to the defence of South Vietnam only, with the ground interdiction of enemy movements and supply lines outside of South Vietnamese borders is not (officially) allowed. As a result, it is estimated that in 1965, up to 150 tons of military supplies were transported along the Ho Chi Minh trail network in neighboring Laos and Cambodia into South Vietnam every day, practically unabated, despite the trail was being bombed by US and South Vietnamese planes at a rate of 1,000 sorties per month at the time. I have heard the US Vietnam war experience as referred to as 'Fighting an enemy blindfolded, with one hand tied behind your back, while at the same time also being told to lie down on your stomach'. This post has been edited by MilitaryMadness: May 17 2018, 03:53 PM |
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May 17 2018, 05:01 PM
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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ May 17 2018, 11:44 AM) but the number of the personnel who is retire and quit is also sometimes worryingesp for specialist, headhunters comes at them with crazy offers QUOTE(justin jackson @ May 17 2018, 01:15 PM) Pasang niat natang apa? Orang kerja nak cari duit utk anak bini & mak ayah kat kampung. Ni kira kerja kerajaan jugak kan? Apasal gaji ciput je? Penjawat awam yg dok goyang telor kat ofis tu lagi tinggi gaji depa. Bagilah anak bini enjoy gaji tu, simpan dalam tabung ke... Buat investment ke... kalau rasa hebat dan pandai serta berkelayakan pergi pengambilan pegawaiini pengambilan pangkat rendah/lain-lain pangkat/NCO pegawai double gaji depa nih tak akan tu pun nak di ajar? |
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May 17 2018, 08:04 PM
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ May 17 2018, 05:01 PM) kalau rasa hebat dan pandai serta berkelayakan pergi pengambilan pegawai Byk bersabar brader. Lain org lain jalan pemikiran dia. Stgh org pikir duit dulu baru pikir lain benda.ini pengambilan pangkat rendah/lain-lain pangkat/NCO pegawai double gaji depa nih tak akan tu pun nak di ajar? |
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May 18 2018, 08:40 AM
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ May 17 2018, 05:01 PM) but the number of the personnel who is retire and quit is also sometimes worrying I think this is natural for military personnel anywhere in the world. esp for specialist, headhunters comes at them with crazy offers tak akan tu pun nak di ajar? Many Generals already have confirmed lucrative chairmanship or CEO jobs when they retire. |
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