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TSReVolVolution
post Apr 22 2018, 06:59 PM, updated 7 months ago

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I’m giving my feedback here to those who are contemplating on getting either Yokohama Fleva V701 OR Hankook Ventus V12 evo 2. Hence, allow me to give my 2 pennies worth as I have used BOTH tyres!

Yokohama Fleva V701 (used for 1 year, below 7K kms)
- quietness 5/10
It’s quite quiet at first when you install (I do mean quite only) but the tyre noise gets louder as the tyre ages to the point where the tyres are no longer considered as QUIET tyres as most people proclaims.

- grip 5/10
Did some rounds to GENTING and the tyres just squeals as almost every corner. Not so confidence here.

- wet grip 7/10
Well, perhaps it shines here but not by much as I didn’t encounter any aquaplanning.

- comfort 6.5/10
Because of the stiffer side walls (at least to my point of view) the comfort is sacrificed a little here.

Overall 5.5/10
With the price below the premium tyres such as PS4 etc, it’s quite predictable that you don’t expect much from these tyres. What annoys me the most is the tyre noise. I used to use S drive last time and I had to change the tyres after 2K kms because of the unbearable road noise. I must say that these Fleva which is a replacement of S drive is not much better.



Hankook Ventus V12evo2 K120 (used for 6 months, below 4K kms)
- quietness 8/10
Now I know that some test shown that the Fleva and V12 dB is about the same but I feel that the V12s are much quieter tyres.

- grip 7/10
Good grip no drama here. Although I have not tried going up GENTING but I did a high speed test and it performs well.

- wet grip 7/10
Although some users commented that these tyres don’t perform well in wet, I believe it’s about the same as Fleva. So, am satisfied with it.

- comfort 7.5/10
The side walls are perhaps a tad less stiff than Fleva. Hence, comfort is better. It absorbs uneven roads better.

Overall 7.5/10
I’m comparing both Fleva and V12s here and I find that the V12s are a tad cheaper than Fleva but it performs much better than Fleva. Therefore, I would recommend buyers who are in a dilemma on choosing V12s or Fleva, just go for V12s.


Disclaimer : My comments above is based on my own personal usage and is not paid by any companies to promote or discuss on their tyres. icon_rolleyes.gif


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post Apr 22 2018, 07:20 PM

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I do agree with that the V12E2 is an Underdog that quite alot ppl out there skeptical about it. Its a true performer and best bang for every single cents...

Thought of give it a try over my car stock Continental initially and never thought its such good, now second set on my car and changed my wife's car over to this as well.


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post Apr 22 2018, 10:01 PM

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I also v12 evo2 user. Then only cons i found so far is the aquaplanning. Other than that I'm satisfied with the tyre. Wet handling are great.
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post Apr 23 2018, 09:15 AM

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v12 evo2 user too for 2 years. quiet, grips well, comfort. WHAT YOU WANT SOME MORE?
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post Apr 23 2018, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(katz79 @ Apr 22 2018, 10:01 PM)
I also v12 evo2 user. Then only cons i found so far is the aquaplanning. Other than that I'm satisfied with the tyre. Wet handling are great.
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Thinking of replacing my Potenza RE003 with V12 Evo2. But you are saying that wet handling is great but its cons is aquaplaning. I thought aquaplaning happens when driving on wet road.
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post Apr 23 2018, 12:50 PM

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any idea which shop still have stock for V12 Evo2 size 205 55 16?

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post Apr 23 2018, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(balsa12 @ Apr 23 2018, 12:50 PM)
any idea which shop still have stock for V12 Evo2 size 205 55 16?
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Same here, looking for same size as you.
I asked around, most of the shops are out of stock.

Only one tyre shop has stock but offer RM327 per tyre....
Now still looking around for cheaper price.
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post Apr 23 2018, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(SweetLem0n @ Apr 23 2018, 05:04 PM)
Same here, looking for same size as you.
I asked around, most of the shops are out of stock.

Only one tyre shop has stock but offer RM327 per tyre....
Now still looking around for cheaper price.
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PM me. my friend got ready stock and price is better than RM327.

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post Apr 23 2018, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(ReVolVolution @ Apr 22 2018, 06:59 PM)
I’m giving my feedback here to those who are contemplating on getting either Yokohama Fleva V701 OR Hankook Ventus V12 evo 2. Hence, allow me to give my 2 pennies worth as I have used BOTH tyres!

Yokohama Fleva V701 (used for 1 year, below 7K kms)
- quietness 5/10
It’s quite quiet at first when you install (I do mean quite only) but the tyre noise gets louder as the tyre ages to the point where the tyres are no longer considered as QUIET tyres as most people proclaims.

- grip 5/10
Did some rounds to GENTING and the tyres just squeals as almost every corner. Not so confidence here.

- wet grip 7/10
Well, perhaps it shines here but not by much as I didn’t encounter any aquaplanning.

- comfort 6.5/10
Because of the stiffer side walls (at least to my point of view) the comfort is sacrificed a little here.

Overall 5.5/10
With the price below the premium tyres such as PS4 etc, it’s quite predictable that you don’t expect much from these tyres. What annoys me the most is the tyre noise. I used to use S drive last time and I had to change the tyres after 2K kms because of the unbearable road noise. I must say that these Fleva which is a replacement of S drive is not much better.
Hankook Ventus V12evo2 K120 (used for 6 months, below 4K kms)
- quietness 8/10
Now I know that some test shown that the Fleva and V12 dB is about the same but I feel that the V12s are much quieter tyres.

- grip 7/10
Good grip no drama here. Although I have not tried going up GENTING but I did a high speed test and it performs well.

- wet grip 7/10
Although some users commented that these tyres don’t perform well in wet, I believe it’s about the same as Fleva. So, am satisfied with it.

- comfort 7.5/10
The side walls are perhaps a tad less stiff than Fleva. Hence, comfort is better. It absorbs uneven roads better.

Overall 7.5/10
I’m comparing both Fleva and V12s here and I find that the V12s are a tad cheaper than Fleva but it performs much better than Fleva. Therefore, I would recommend buyers who are in a dilemma on choosing V12s or Fleva, just go for V12s.
Disclaimer : My comments above is based on my own personal usage and is not paid by any companies to promote or discuss on their tyres.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Nice reviews! thumbsup.gif I'm using the V12E2 now but not eager to try the Fleva as I already suspected it would not be as good, so finally somebody confirms what I thought so too. The Fleva also has not done well (or even bad) in the limited tests that was done on it in Europe (by Autobild). Considering the price though I'd score the V12E2 higher than yours, maybe somewhere around 8-8.5. smile.gif
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post Apr 23 2018, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(SZaid @ Apr 23 2018, 12:17 PM)
Thinking of replacing my Potenza RE003 with V12 Evo2. But you are saying that wet handling is great but its cons is aquaplaning. I thought aquaplaning happens when driving on wet road.
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Aquaplaning resistance is just 1 aspect of wet performance, which is how the tire behaves when going thru some water puddles. This is usually determined by the treads where those that have many cuts and big water grooves should perform better on this area but consequently sacrifices dry grip as there are less rubber blocks to contact the road and the blocks are also have more movement under load. Narrower tires also will give better aquaplaning resistance than wider ones.

Then there is also wet grip and behavior on wet roads when there's no water puddles. Most of the time when driving on wet roads, you don't often go thru water puddles right? So this handling behavior is also as important if not more. Usually this is achieved more by the compound and probably construction too that allow to grip on wet surfaces better. Higher performance tires usually excel in this area even though some are able to mix/combine both almost equally. Last time PS3 was well known to be excellent or the best at aquaplaning resistance BUT not necessarily the best also at wet handling when got not water puddles, and then certainly was not the best at ultimate dry performance (coz it has big water grooves making the contact patch lesser). Then PS4 now improves on that, trying to maintain the overall wet performance while improving the dry performance. I'm using the V12E2 and also PS3, and IMHO the V12E2 is superior in almost all areas to the PS3 except just the aquaplaning resistance. Your RE003 is more focused towards dry performance as you can see it has more bog tread blocks with even less water grooves. The V12E2 should be better than the RE003 in this area.

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post Apr 24 2018, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Apr 23 2018, 10:50 PM)
Nice reviews!  thumbsup.gif  I'm using the V12E2 now but not eager to try the Fleva as I already suspected it would not be as good, so finally somebody confirms what I thought so too.  The Fleva also has not done well (or even bad) in the limited tests that was done on it in Europe (by Autobild).  Considering the price though I'd score the V12E2 higher than yours, maybe somewhere around 8-8.5. smile.gif
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Wow.. 8-8.5 is quite high. biggrin.gif

Have you compared the v12s vs other makes?
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post Apr 24 2018, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(ReVolVolution @ Apr 24 2018, 07:39 PM)
Wow.. 8-8.5 is quite high.  biggrin.gif

Have you compared the v12s vs other makes?
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Yes, so far I have used these: the old Michelin Pilot Preceda and PS3, Goodyear F1D5 & F1A2, Continental CSC3 & 5, and this V12E2. The best one I'd say still the CSC5 but this V12E2 along with the F1A2 follow very close already and I'd rate the V12E2 better than the rest overall, even PS3.
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post Apr 25 2018, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(balsa12 @ Apr 23 2018, 12:50 PM)
any idea which shop still have stock for V12 Evo2 size 205 55 16?
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can try look for kok at shah alam 0166555122
saw the price about rm 290-295 i believe.
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post Apr 26 2018, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Apr 24 2018, 08:53 PM)
Yes, so far I have used these: the old Michelin Pilot Preceda and PS3, Goodyear F1D5 & F1A2, Continental CSC3 & 5, and this V12E2. The best one I'd say still the CSC5 but this V12E2 along with the F1A2 follow very close already and I'd rate the V12E2 better than the rest overall, even PS3.
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Good range of tyres bro. I've tried RE003, PS3, MC5, Primacy, Eagle F1Asym, etc.

I think this V12s are quieter than RE003 and PS3. Eagle F1 is nice but I don't trust their quality since it had sidewall cracks after 3 years or so. Whereas, PS3 is good but there are complaints (which I experienced) that the tyres just 'shredded" off. Hence, quality is questionable.
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post Apr 26 2018, 11:02 AM

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Go for PS3 and the first thing i notice with tyre size 195/55/15 is, its wobble quite bad.. but the grip is there..
I think with low profile tyre will surely decrease the wobble effect..
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post Apr 26 2018, 11:18 AM

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Why don't they make the K120 in 185 5516?!
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post Apr 26 2018, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(ReVolVolution @ Apr 26 2018, 10:16 AM)
Good range of tyres bro. I've tried RE003, PS3, MC5, Primacy, Eagle F1Asym, etc.

I think this V12s are quieter than RE003 and PS3. Eagle F1 is nice but I don't trust their quality since it had sidewall cracks after 3 years or so. Whereas, PS3 is good but there are complaints (which I experienced) that the tyres just 'shredded" off. Hence, quality is questionable.
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Yes agree, that the V12E2 is quitter than PS3 and surprisingly silent for UHP tires. As for F1, well I used my F1D5 until really finished, no issues whatsoever and very reliable with only some chipping like PS3 when driven hard. For my current F1A2 also not yet any issues so far and the tires is already like 50%. PS3 as I said, also have chipping issues (or maybe what you called as 'shredded'), but nothing serious as the tires still perform well. Honestly for me, practically ALL my tires will have chipping! laugh.gif Just a matter of how severe only whereby the F1D5 & PS3 are a bit more while F1A2, V12E2, and CSC3/5 not as much.
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Just replaced the CSC 5s on my v40 with the K120. When roiling on fresh tarmac, the tyre noise is absent and even on highway, tyre roar is relatively lower compared to recording of the CSC 5 i made before i switched. And the crashiness of the CSC 5 when going over rough road conditions is gone, maybe due to the softer sidewall?
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post Apr 26 2018, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(dickybird @ Apr 26 2018, 11:28 AM)
Just replaced the CSC 5s on my v40 with the K120. When roiling on fresh tarmac, the tyre noise is absent and even on highway, tyre roar is relatively lower compared to recording of the CSC 5 i made before i switched. And the crashiness of the CSC 5 when going over rough road conditions is gone, maybe due to the softer sidewall?
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Yeah V12E2 seems to have softer sidewall than CSC5. I feel it's similar with PS3 and F1.
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Agreed with TS on advan Fleva dry grip, disappointed with it. My previous tyre was Re003, much better on dry grip but lose in wet compare to Fleva. Sidewall of Re003 are more aggresive than fleva which more suit with my car. I feel fleva's sidewall already too soft for my car, thus, V12E2 sidewall are too soft?
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how about kumho ps31?cheap also.
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QUOTE(sg999 @ Apr 27 2018, 02:47 PM)
how about kumho ps31?cheap also.
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Not so good. Kumho claimed it as UHP level tires but actually more like just entry level performance. Tirerack USA commented in their review that the performance is not quite "Ultra High" category as claimed, meaning like UHP pretend tires?? laugh.gif

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDi...ay.jsp?ttid=217
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QUOTE(tonitoni @ Apr 26 2018, 01:48 PM)
Agreed with TS on advan Fleva dry grip, disappointed with it. My previous tyre was Re003, much better on dry grip but lose in wet compare to Fleva. Sidewall of Re003 are more aggresive than fleva which more suit with my car. I feel fleva's sidewall already too soft for my car, thus, V12E2 sidewall are too soft?
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From my experience and feeling, fleva’s sidewalls are perhaps 20% stiffer than v12s. My ride is already quite stiff as it’s a performance based car and I actually want softer sidewalls instead.

Look at it this way, how often do we ‘trash’ our car. 80-90% of the time, I drive like an average joe. Hence, softer sidewalls are better for me as my set up is quite stiff already.

I’ll update more when I have the chance to test these types on Genting roads.
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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Apr 27 2018, 03:23 PM)
Not so good. Kumho claimed it as UHP level tires but actually more like just entry level performance. Tirerack USA commented in their review that the performance is not quite "Ultra High" category as claimed, meaning like UHP pretend tires??  laugh.gif

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDi...ay.jsp?ttid=217
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How about PS71?? the price range not so far from V12Evo2
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QUOTE(uexpress @ Apr 27 2018, 06:22 PM)
How about PS71?? the price range not so far from V12Evo2
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Still not convincing enough. For example in this test it ends up only 7th out of 8 with highlight weakness comment:
"Poor wet handling with slow steering and long wet braking distances."
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2018-...P-Tyre-Test.htm

In this review though it ends up middle ground but some assessment in this review is done by "subjective feel" so a bit questionable.
Highlight weakness commented: Poor balance during emergency maneuvers.
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2018-...r-Tyre-Test.htm

And then there's this test where it came out 2nd! biggrin.gif But note that there's no explanation from the media reviewer of how they score the tires, so even more questionable! smile.gif
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2018-...r-Tyre-Test.htm

Generally I don't quite trust Kumho tires, coz besides never really reading any solid dependable reviews on them, I also often heard bulging reports on them. If price is close to V12E2, might as well get V12E2 coz more proven.


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post Apr 29 2018, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Apr 27 2018, 07:54 PM)
Still not convincing enough. For example in this test it ends up only 7th out of 8 with highlight weakness comment:
"Poor wet handling with slow steering and long wet braking distances."
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2018-...P-Tyre-Test.htm

In this review though it ends up middle ground but some assessment in this review is done by "subjective feel" so a bit questionable.
Highlight weakness commented: Poor balance during emergency maneuvers.
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2018-...r-Tyre-Test.htm

And then there's this test where it came out 2nd!  biggrin.gif  But note that there's no explanation from the media reviewer of how they score the tires, so even more questionable!  smile.gif
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2018-...r-Tyre-Test.htm

Generally I don't quite trust Kumho tires, coz besides never really reading any solid dependable reviews on them, I also often heard bulging reports on them. If price is close to V12E2, might as well get V12E2 coz more proven.
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V12 consider very good
has been driving up to fraser hill, cornering so grippy! rclxm9.gif
turn left and turn right, can feel the sharp response. drool.gif
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QUOTE(sg999 @ Apr 29 2018, 12:27 PM)
V12 consider very good
has been driving up to fraser hill, cornering so grippy!  rclxm9.gif
turn left and turn right, can feel the sharp response. drool.gif
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Hahaha very good then. biggrin.gif
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I'm sold. My next tyres is the hankook v12. I'm currently on Falken ziex 914 ecorun. Quite good for grip in dry and wet but noisy
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QUOTE(Imagination *-* @ May 9 2018, 07:42 AM)
I'm sold. My next tyres is the hankook v12. I'm currently on Falken ziex 914 ecorun. Quite good for grip in dry and wet but noisy
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No contest, the 914 is lower level than V12E2. For Falken the comparable model is the new FK510, you can try to check that out also coz it's newer and might be even better than the V12E2 but maybe at a slightly higher price. Until this FK510 comes, the V12E2 is still the best value for money now.
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QUOTE(6UE5T @ May 9 2018, 08:14 AM)
No contest, the 914 is lower level than V12E2. For Falken the comparable model is the new FK510, you can try to check that out also coz it's newer and might be even better than the V12E2 but maybe at a slightly higher price. Until this FK510 comes, the V12E2 is still the best value for money now.
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Bro, would you be able to let me know how lasting the V12E2?

I am on Primacy 3ST and it had 50k+ KM with 30% thread life. Now it is harden and it is about time to change. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ze2 @ May 11 2018, 03:14 PM)
Bro, would you be able to let me know how lasting the V12E2?

I am on Primacy 3ST and it had 50k+ KM with 30% thread life. Now it is harden and it is about time to change.  tongue.gif
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Should not be too much difference, maybe just a bit faster wear. I'd say it should last at least 40-45k km minimum.
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QUOTE(6UE5T @ May 11 2018, 06:49 PM)
Should not be too much difference, maybe just a bit faster wear. I'd say it should last at least 40-45k km minimum.
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Thanks bro. For the price and it’s performace...really value for money.
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QUOTE(ze2 @ May 11 2018, 06:52 PM)
Thanks bro. For the price and it’s performace...really value for money.
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Yup, it's the best value for money now until later when the new Falken FK510 arrives, then we'll see how the pricing for that one will be.

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seems like many ppl praising V12E2,
I have a question, checking in their website, why all the R16 size dont have 'UHP' label?? means that size not UHP?
http://www.hankooktire.com/my/passenger-ca...-evo2-k120.html

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QUOTE(g9000z @ May 14 2018, 04:46 PM)
seems like many ppl praising V12E2,
I have a question, checking in their website, why all the R16 size dont have 'UHP' label?? means that size not UHP?
http://www.hankooktire.com/my/passenger-ca...-evo2-k120.html

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By right should still be UHP coz still the same tire compound, same construction and design, same speed rating and UTQG rating, similar load index too. Not sure why the website puts it like that.
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QUOTE(6UE5T @ May 14 2018, 07:54 PM)
By right should still be UHP coz still the same tire compound, same construction and design, same speed rating and UTQG rating, similar load index too. Not sure why the website puts it like that.
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That's weird, maybe need to try it myself then only know. rclxub.gif
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Need to change my car tyres soon. Want to try this Hankook Ventus V12evo2. Looking for size 245/40/18.
@6UE5T, any recommended shop in Klang?
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QUOTE(jason4883 @ Jul 23 2018, 08:51 AM)
Need to change my car tyres soon.  Want to try this Hankook Ventus V12evo2.  Looking for size 245/40/18.
@6UE5T, any recommended shop in Klang?
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S One Tyres & Sport Rims in Setia Alam. I just changed there last week. They give very competitive prices, maybe one of the cheapest.
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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Jul 24 2018, 08:05 AM)
S One Tyres & Sport Rims in Setia Alam. I just changed there last week. They give very competitive prices, maybe one of the cheapest.
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Hope u don't mind to PM me the quoted price for the tyres you bought last week.
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QUOTE(jason4883 @ Jul 24 2018, 11:43 AM)
Hope u don't mind to PM me the quoted price for the tyres you bought last week.
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there are few more shops selling cheap. Beside S One, can try Teoh Brothers at klang or Oscar Tyre.
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QUOTE(cooljik93 @ Jul 24 2018, 02:47 PM)
there are few more shops selling cheap. Beside S One, can try Teoh Brothers at klang or Oscar Tyre.
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Noted with thanks. Will pay a visit to them to check that out. smile.gif
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QUOTE(jason4883 @ Jul 24 2018, 11:43 AM)
Hope u don't mind to PM me the quoted price for the tyres you bought last week.
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I only bought small size 195/55/15 for just rm170/pc. Your size should probably be around rm300-325/pc.

Another option is try call E.D. Tayar. Their prices usually are also very competitive.

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I'm looking to replace mine ride with V12Evo2 as well..
Any1 know where to look for around Cheras,Bangi,Kajang,Serdang area?
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I'm looking to replace mine ride with V12Evo2 as well..
Any1 know where to look for around Cheras,Bangi,Kajang,Serdang area?
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try look for racing z at that area.they are hankook dealers.
if at shah alam is around rm 290 for your reference.

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Got myself 2 pcs of Hankook Ventus v12 evo2 245/40/18 at RM425 per piece, in Jooi Seng Klang. Will wait for rainy day to test it out.
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QUOTE(jason4883 @ Aug 6 2018, 08:40 AM)
Got myself 2 pcs of Hankook Ventus v12 evo2 245/40/18 at RM425 per piece, in Jooi Seng Klang.  Will wait for rainy day to test it out.
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rm 425 pretty cheap.sure u will satisfy with it.haha..good grip..comfort level good.the only cons is a little soft.
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rm 425 pretty cheap.sure u will satisfy with it.haha..good grip..comfort level good.the only cons is a little soft.
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That's why the comfort level is still good. Next time can try the new Falken FK510 as that one should have stiffer sidewall but probably would not be as comfortable too, somethings got to give I suppose. smile.gif

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Hi guys wanna ask about Evo12v2..

Are there any difference between Korean made or Indonesian made Evo12v2?
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And also can I ask.. for 18in Evo12v2.. can use for SUV like Mazda CX-5?
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QUOTE(dauf87 @ Aug 11 2018, 02:37 PM)
Hi guys wanna ask about Evo12v2..

Are there any difference between Korean made or Indonesian made Evo12v2?
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Where u found indo made V12E2? So far I've only seen from Korea.
QUOTE(dauf87 @ Aug 11 2018, 06:29 PM)
And also can I ask.. for 18in Evo12v2.. can use for SUV like Mazda CX-5?
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Why not, if u can find the right size. Or u could look for S1E2 as well.





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v12evo2 only made in korea. Those made in indonesia are the lower category. I think its the v2c2 and s1noble.
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QUOTE(WinterAngeLs @ Aug 13 2018, 09:49 AM)
Where u found indo made V12E2? So far I've only seen from Korea.

Why not, if u can find the right size. Or u could look for S1E2 as well.
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QUOTE(cooljik93 @ Aug 13 2018, 10:32 AM)
v12evo2 only made in korea. Those made in indonesia are the lower category. I think its the v2c2 and s1noble.
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Oh yup sorry my mistake.. I've rechecked and all the Evov12 are made from korea.

Im just curious whether there should be specific tyres for suv.

Btw thanks for clearing that up! rclxms.gif


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Just change 4pc of Hankook V12E2 @ GW Tyre Jln Kapar.

205/45/16, yr 2018, rm240/pc~
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I dont know guyz, I dont like the V12E2. I felt like the side wall is abit too soft for my liking. I fitted 4 new V12E2 on my suprima s early this year and i cant confidently corner like i did with my previous RE003 or PS3 set. Cornering doesnt feel grippy as before. Anyway this is just my honest opinion.
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QUOTE(Volt @ Sep 3 2018, 01:15 AM)
I dont know guyz, I dont like the V12E2. I felt like the side wall is abit too soft for my liking. I fitted 4 new V12E2 on my suprima s early this year and i cant confidently corner like i did with my previous RE003 or PS3 set. Cornering doesnt feel grippy as before. Anyway this is just my honest opinion.
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Yeah V12E2 sidewall is on the softer side, RE003 has stiffer sidewall but PS3 is also rather soft too. Actually the V12E2 grip is still pretty good, maybe just the soft feel you're not used to. Have you tried increasing the tire pressure a bit? Anyway, people may have different preferences so yeah fair enough.
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Yes i did pump the tyres to 35psi and it felt the same to me. Well... im not saying its a bad purchase, at least it doesn't squeals or slip on wet road. I would say its perform the same as goodyear F1 D5. That tyre also have soft side wall.
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Not sure if my impression is wrong, but this is what I think about it:

Yeah, indeed the sidewall did feel a tad soft.

After a high-speed turn in, it does take a moment for the car to 'settle in', but when it does, it grips without complaining much, if at all.

I'm not sure, but I THINK that a softer side-wall compliments most passenger car's soft suspension set up, so to not 'load' the suspension too suddenly which can cause the tires to skip.

Driving very predictably albeit quickly, I think this tire ultimately has very high dry and wet grip.

The downside is that incredibly quick lane changes feel unsettling, and a somewhat slow response, like when you are zipping between lanes in very heavy traffic at high speeds.

But we shouldn't be driving like that anyway! tongue.gif

I think the tire is suitable for all SUVs and sedans, even sports sedans.

Probably not so good for our sporty JDM friends (MX-5, S15, R34, MR-S etc) and their MY counterparts (modded Wira, Satria etc) who drive on average 50 km/h faster than us even during traffic jam.

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QUOTE(Volt @ Sep 4 2018, 03:01 PM)
Yes i did pump the tyres to 35psi and it felt the same to me. Well... im not saying its a bad purchase, at least it doesn't squeals or slip on wet road. I would say its perform the same as goodyear F1 D5. That tyre also have soft side wall.
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Agree it's pretty similar to F1D5 but I think the V12E2 has higher grip overall and definitely more silent.


QUOTE(ViktorJ @ Sep 4 2018, 03:18 PM)
Not sure if my impression is wrong, but this is what I think about it:

Yeah, indeed the sidewall did feel a tad soft.

After a high-speed turn in, it does take a moment for the car to 'settle in', but when it does, it grips without complaining much, if at all.

I'm not sure, but I THINK that a softer side-wall compliments most passenger car's soft suspension set up, so to not 'load' the suspension too suddenly which can cause the tires to skip.

Driving very predictably albeit quickly, I think this tire ultimately has very high dry and wet grip.

The downside is that incredibly quick lane changes feel unsettling, and a somewhat slow response, like when you are zipping between lanes in very heavy traffic at high speeds.

But we shouldn't be driving like that anyway!  tongue.gif

I think the tire is suitable for all SUVs and sedans, even sports sedans.

Probably not so good for our sporty JDM friends (MX-5, S15, R34, MR-S etc) and their MY counterparts (modded Wira, Satria etc) who drive on average 50 km/h faster than us even during traffic jam.
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Well it might give the impression of slow response in quick directional changes due to the softer sidewall. But to me I don't feel hampered when I need to drive fast/more aggressively. I think it's still fine for sporty cars too, it all depends on driver's feel and preference of how they like their cars to behave. IMHO tires that have very stiff sidewall also not really suitable in Malaysia as the road sometimes not smooth and like you said will instead make the tires easier to skip and loose traction while the softer ones may still grip better.

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Sep 4 2018, 04:50 PM)
Agree it's pretty similar to F1D5 but I think the V12E2 has higher grip overall and definitely more silent.
Well it might give the impression of slow response in quick directional changes due to the softer sidewall. But to me I don't feel hampered when I need to drive fast/more aggressively. I think it's still fine for sporty cars too, it all depends on driver's feel and preference of how they like their cars to behave. IMHO tires that have very stiff sidewall also not really suitable in Malaysia as the road sometimes not smooth and like you said will instead make the tires easier to skip and loose traction while the softer ones may still grip better.
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Yup. In fact, I would say it doesn't actually have a soft side-wall per se, just soft in comparison to its category, i.e. UHP.

Could probably remedy that easily: just go ultra low profile!

When I wanted to go for lower profile, the tire shop guy gave me a funny look and pretty much ignored me and just changed the stock setup anyway.

For reference, its a D segment with 215/50/17, I wanted to go 45 or even 40 tongue.gif

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QUOTE(ViktorJ @ Sep 4 2018, 04:58 PM)
Yup. In fact, I would say it doesn't actually have a soft side-wall per se, just soft in comparison to its category, i.e. UHP.

Could probably remedy that easily: just go ultra low profile!

When I wanted to go for lower profile, the tire shop guy gave me a funny look and pretty much ignored me and just changed the stock setup anyway.

For reference, its a D segment with 215/50/17, I wanted to go 45 or even 40  tongue.gif
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You need to upsize rims to 18x8.5 then use 245/40/18. My d-segment now is already using 245/40/18 and for me personally that is the thinnest profile I'd go and would not go even lower than 9.8-10cm sidewall height coz it will be too harsh! Actually IMHO 10-11cm sidewall height (195/55, 205/50, 215/50, 225/45, 235/45, 245/45, 255/40) offer the best compromise between look, performance/stiffness, and comfort. When going around 9.6-9.8cm sidewall height (195/50, 215/45, 245/40) then start to feel a bit harsh and that's the borderline, then going even further below that is a big no already for me.
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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Sep 4 2018, 05:30 PM)
You need to upsize rims to 18x8.5 then use 245/40/18.  My d-segment now is already using 245/40/18 and for me personally that is the thinnest profile I'd go and would not go even lower than 9.8-10cm sidewall height coz it will be too harsh! Actually IMHO 10-11cm sidewall height (195/55, 205/50, 215/50, 225/45, 235/45, 245/45, 255/40) offer the best compromise between look, performance/stiffness, and comfort. When going around 9.6-9.8cm sidewall height (195/50, 215/45, 245/40) then start to feel a bit harsh and that's the borderline, then going even further below that is a big no already for me.
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IIRC, Kia Forte comes with 215/45/17

Its crazy harsh to me, but I always thought it was more due to the suspension setup rather than its tire profile
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QUOTE(ViktorJ @ Sep 4 2018, 05:44 PM)
IIRC, Kia Forte comes with 215/45/17

Its crazy harsh to me, but I always thought it was more due to the suspension setup rather than its tire profile
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Yes, Kia Forte and the old Civic FD2 are some example of cars that come std with that tire size. It's a bit of both but I think there's only so much you can cheat with suspension trickery to try compensate for the physics of low cushioning from the thin tires. Tires is the first contact patch to the road so their behavior gives the first most pronounced reaction/feel to the car. That's why no matter what car I will own and drive as daily/street car, I will not want to drop below that 9.8-10cm sidewall height limit as general guide.
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QUOTE(ViktorJ @ Sep 4 2018, 05:44 PM)
IIRC, Kia Forte comes with 215/45/17

Its crazy harsh to me, but I always thought it was more due to the suspension setup rather than its tire profile
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My suprima s also come with that wheel size, its really harsh especial for the passenger. And proton sporty tune on the stock suspension also doesn't help. But hey... at least its fun to drive biggrin.gif
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i’m using advan fleva right now and i fully agree except that it deserves higher score on wet grip. i’ll probably give it an 8.5-9. it’s a freaking revelation especially when my last set was the re003. but that’s about it. noise is terrible. dry grip is sad. comfort i don’t care coz i’m on a stiff suspension setup anyway. never tried v12e2 though. always no stock for my size.

QUOTE(ReVolVolution @ Apr 22 2018, 06:59 PM)
I’m giving my feedback here to those who are contemplating on getting either Yokohama Fleva V701 OR Hankook Ventus V12 evo 2. Hence, allow me to give my 2 pennies worth as I have used BOTH tyres!

Yokohama Fleva V701 (used for 1 year, below 7K kms)
- quietness 5/10
It’s quite quiet at first when you install (I do mean quite only) but the tyre noise gets louder as the tyre ages to the point where the tyres are no longer considered as QUIET tyres as most people proclaims.

- grip 5/10
Did some rounds to GENTING and the tyres just squeals as almost every corner. Not so confidence here.

- wet grip 7/10
Well, perhaps it shines here but not by much as I didn’t encounter any aquaplanning.

- comfort 6.5/10
Because of the stiffer side walls (at least to my point of view) the comfort is sacrificed a little here.

Overall 5.5/10
With the price below the premium tyres such as PS4 etc, it’s quite predictable that you don’t expect much from these tyres. What annoys me the most is the tyre noise. I used to use S drive last time and I had to change the tyres after 2K kms because of the unbearable road noise. I must say that these Fleva which is a replacement of S drive is not much better.
Hankook Ventus V12evo2 K120 (used for 6 months, below 4K kms)
- quietness 8/10
Now I know that some test shown that the Fleva and V12 dB is about the same but I feel that the V12s are much quieter tyres.

- grip 7/10
Good grip no drama here. Although I have not tried going up GENTING but I did a high speed test and it performs well.

- wet grip 7/10
Although some users commented that these tyres don’t perform well in wet, I believe it’s about the same as Fleva. So, am satisfied with it.

- comfort 7.5/10
The side walls are perhaps a tad less stiff than Fleva. Hence, comfort is better. It absorbs uneven roads better.

Overall 7.5/10
I’m comparing both Fleva and V12s here and I find that the V12s are a tad cheaper than Fleva but it performs much better than Fleva. Therefore, I would recommend buyers who are in a dilemma on choosing V12s or Fleva, just go for V12s.
Disclaimer : My comments above is based on my own personal usage and is not paid by any companies to promote or discuss on their tyres.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(a.h.wan @ Sep 25 2018, 02:52 AM)
i’m using advan fleva right now and i fully agree except that it deserves higher score on wet grip. i’ll probably give it an 8.5-9. it’s a freaking revelation especially when my last set was the re003. but that’s about it. noise is terrible. dry grip is sad. comfort i don’t care coz i’m on a stiff suspension setup anyway. never tried v12e2 though. always no stock for my size.
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QUOTE(Keisuke Honda @ Sep 25 2018, 10:02 AM)
Agree on the noise factor. That day I sent my car to do alignment at a tyre workshop that mainly sells Michelin tyres. The boss after test driving my car suspected that my bearings kong-ed...then checked no problem.

"Why your tyres noisy like lori tyres???" laugh.gif doh.gif
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Hahaha so Yokohama must have been bluffing when they claim this Fleva only as 67db noise rating! doh.gif The V12E2 on the other hand only rated at around 70db by Hankook but during Car & Driver magazine test only produced 67db noise level.
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QUOTE(ReVolVolution @ Apr 22 2018, 06:59 PM)
I’m giving my feedback here to those who are contemplating on getting either Yokohama Fleva V701 OR Hankook Ventus V12 evo 2. Hence, allow me to give my 2 pennies worth as I have used BOTH tyres!

Yokohama Fleva V701 (used for 1 year, below 7K kms)
- quietness 5/10
It’s quite quiet at first when you install (I do mean quite only) but the tyre noise gets louder as the tyre ages to the point where the tyres are no longer considered as QUIET tyres as most people proclaims.

- grip 5/10
Did some rounds to GENTING and the tyres just squeals as almost every corner. Not so confidence here.

- wet grip 7/10
Well, perhaps it shines here but not by much as I didn’t encounter any aquaplanning.

- comfort 6.5/10
Because of the stiffer side walls (at least to my point of view) the comfort is sacrificed a little here.

Overall 5.5/10
With the price below the premium tyres such as PS4 etc, it’s quite predictable that you don’t expect much from these tyres. What annoys me the most is the tyre noise. I used to use S drive last time and I had to change the tyres after 2K kms because of the unbearable road noise. I must say that these Fleva which is a replacement of S drive is not much better.
Hankook Ventus V12evo2 K120 (used for 6 months, below 4K kms)
- quietness 8/10
Now I know that some test shown that the Fleva and V12 dB is about the same but I feel that the V12s are much quieter tyres.

- grip 7/10
Good grip no drama here. Although I have not tried going up GENTING but I did a high speed test and it performs well.

- wet grip 7/10
Although some users commented that these tyres don’t perform well in wet, I believe it’s about the same as Fleva. So, am satisfied with it.

- comfort 7.5/10
The side walls are perhaps a tad less stiff than Fleva. Hence, comfort is better. It absorbs uneven roads better.

Overall 7.5/10
I’m comparing both Fleva and V12s here and I find that the V12s are a tad cheaper than Fleva but it performs much better than Fleva. Therefore, I would recommend buyers who are in a dilemma on choosing V12s or Fleva, just go for V12s.
Disclaimer : My comments above is based on my own personal usage and is not paid by any companies to promote or discuss on their tyres.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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I am looking for V12, 225/55R17. Which shop in Klang ,I can get it?

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QUOTE(baocord @ Sep 29 2018, 06:33 PM)
I am looking for V12, 225/55R17. Which shop in Klang ,I can get it?
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Try S One Tyres and Sport Rims in Setia Alam, not far from Klang.
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I am looking for V12, 225/55R17. Which shop in Klang ,I can get it?
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i check the list size for v12 in the internet dont have the size.
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i check the list size for v12 in the internet dont have the size.
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Thank you for the info, any good tyre you can recommend, price below RM 300
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Thank you for the info, any good tyre you can recommend, price below RM 300
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almost v701 quite good review..can compete with v12 but price i think in the range of rm 380-400
if below rm 300,can only can brand like achiles atr sport or dayton etc.
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Is Achilles tyre good, not so famous
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Is Achilles tyre good, not so famous
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afforadable high performance tyre.is good enough for that budget.i feel better than many tyres like dayton/lion/rovelo etc.
but for sure if u have budget can go for premium like yokohama/michelin/hankook.otherwise can settle for those.just my personal experience.because some people thinks that dont go for brand like these.
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QUOTE(leehernandez @ Oct 3 2018, 11:31 AM)
afforadable high performance tyre.is good enough for that budget.i feel better than many tyres like dayton/lion/rovelo etc.
but for sure if u have budget can go for premium like yokohama/michelin/hankook.otherwise can settle for those.just my personal experience.because some people thinks that dont go for brand like these.
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Agree , will go for Achilles
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QUOTE(Keisuke Honda @ Oct 3 2018, 02:31 PM)
I'm on Yokohama V701, my friend using Achilles.

Performance comparable but looks-wise, Achilles looks ugly. tongue.gif
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im gonna try v12evo2 after my re003 wears out, the v12evo2 wif threadwear of 320 will last much longer than the re003's abmysal 220 and also much cheaper

my re003 clocked around 20k++ km and its left like 2mm thread now, really cannot last, and its expensive too even if compare wif tyres like ps4 if u factor in how many km it can last (my old ps3 wif threadwear 320 lasted me like 45k km)

so this evo2 wif threadwear of 320 should be able to last around 40k++ km too and cheaper biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Keisuke Honda @ Oct 8 2018, 09:52 AM)
But in terms of grip it's not bad, never once it gave way or failed me.
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That tire got very mixed reviews, some shows poor grip and so easy to screech around, some say initially bad but then with some pressure adjustment becomes decent, etc2. Maybe a bit inconsistent and sensitive tire.
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Been quite a while since the last I updated this.

I've recently purchase another round of v12e2 for another vehicle. To my surprise, it wasn't as quiet as my first purchase in 2018. Also, it seems it's quite difficult to find tyre manufactured in this year 2019. Most of the stockist are giving 2018 or even worst 2017.

Anyway, I manage to get this year's tyres ie 2019. However, it's kinda more noisier than the first I remembered. Of course it may not be a fair comparison as I was using Primacy 3ST in this vehicle before I changed it to v12.

Anyhow, I'll need to monitor it further. Maybe it needs a little run in. Who knows...
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QUOTE(ReVolVolution @ May 15 2019, 02:37 PM)
Been quite a while since the last I updated this.

I've recently purchase another round of v12e2 for another vehicle. To my surprise, it wasn't as quiet as my first purchase in 2018. Also, it seems it's quite difficult to find tyre manufactured in this year 2019. Most of the stockist are giving 2018 or even worst 2017.

Anyway, I manage to get this year's tyres ie 2019. However, it's kinda more noisier than the first I remembered. Of course it may not be a fair comparison as I was using Primacy 3ST in this vehicle before I changed it to v12.

Anyhow, I'll need to monitor it further. Maybe it needs a little run in. Who knows...
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currently using v12e2 for 44k km now.
quiet, grip (wet & dry), handling = still ok

only negative side is.. Side tred worn out too fast.. 44k km 95% botak already.
middle thread still thick.

overall, i think my style of driving ( speeding+cornering ) only give 48k km by this donuts.

fleva i neva used..
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QUOTE(Beogatts @ May 16 2019, 01:56 PM)
currently using v12e2 for 44k km now.
quiet, grip (wet & dry), handling = still ok

only negative side is.. Side tred worn out too fast.. 44k km 95% botak already.
middle thread still thick.

overall, i think my style of driving ( speeding+cornering ) only give 48k km by this donuts.

fleva i neva used..
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If you like to corner fast, the outer side blocks tread will always wear out faster because you're putting a lot of cornering load on them. Mine also like that no matter what tires I use, very often also with chipping like in case of PS3/4 and F1D5. You can try to compensate by using a bit higher tire pressure.
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QUOTE(ReVolVolution @ May 15 2019, 02:37 PM)
Been quite a while since the last I updated this.

I've recently purchase another round of v12e2 for another vehicle. To my surprise, it wasn't as quiet as my first purchase in 2018. Also, it seems it's quite difficult to find tyre manufactured in this year 2019. Most of the stockist are giving 2018 or even worst 2017.

Anyway, I manage to get this year's tyres ie 2019. However, it's kinda more noisier than the first I remembered. Of course it may not be a fair comparison as I was using Primacy 3ST in this vehicle before I changed it to v12.

Anyhow, I'll need to monitor it further. Maybe it needs a little run in. Who knows...
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Tyre newer not necessarily better you should know that.. 2018 tires is good as the compound has stable make it more durable
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post May 17 2019, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(hafiez @ May 15 2019, 08:31 PM)
u just getting older laugh.gif
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QUOTE(AaronLJW @ May 17 2019, 03:21 PM)
Tyre newer not necessarily better you should know that.. 2018 tires is good as the compound has stable make it more durable
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It’s the same v12evo2 tyres. Just that one was manufactured in 2018 and the other is 2019. Anyway, too soon to say. Maybe my ears just got hyper sensitive. Who knows..
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QUOTE(AaronLJW @ May 17 2019, 03:21 PM)
Tyre newer not necessarily better you should know that.. 2018 tires is good as the compound has stable make it more durable
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I don't get this statement. Shouldn't you get new fresh tires instead of last year's manufacture?
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QUOTE(IamAHuman @ May 18 2019, 03:26 PM)
I don't get this statement. Shouldn't you get new fresh tires instead of last year's manufacture?
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Myth: "This tyre old already, I give you 'new' one. Performance better."

Bridgestone says:
"Tyres with an earlier date of manufacture will perform the same as 'fresher' ones as long as they have been stored properly and are undamaged.

Sources: https://www.sgcarmart.com/news/writeup.php?AID=328

You should hear before that #TyresAreNotBananas by Michelin, Malaysian always assume that newer tires are better and even just last year manufacture tyres are not good.. Tyres don't work that way and this is Malaysian mentality
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QUOTE(6UE5T @ May 16 2019, 02:03 PM)
If you like to corner fast, the outer side blocks tread will always wear out faster because you're putting a lot of cornering load on them. Mine also like that no matter what tires I use, very often also with chipping like in case of PS3/4 and F1D5. You can try to compensate by using a bit higher tire pressure.
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Now I know why my tyres wear out faster on the outer side block. Tyre shop guy say alignment problem, but after I told him I previously did alignment at his shop he said the road I travel was rough. 🤔
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QUOTE(zy93 @ May 18 2019, 06:20 PM)
Now I know why my tyres wear out faster on the outer side block. Tyre shop guy say alignment problem, but after I told him I previously did alignment at his shop he said the road I travel was rough. 🤔
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Hahaha many of them are clueless actually.
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QUOTE(AaronLJW @ May 18 2019, 05:50 PM)
Myth: "This tyre old already, I give you 'new' one. Performance better."

Bridgestone says:
"Tyres with an earlier date of manufacture will perform the same as 'fresher' ones as long as they have been stored properly and are undamaged.

Sources: https://www.sgcarmart.com/news/writeup.php?AID=328

You should hear before that #TyresAreNotBananas by Michelin, Malaysian always assume that newer tires are better and even just last year manufacture tyres are not good.. Tyres don't work that way and this is Malaysian mentality
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So you are saying if given you the choice of 2018 and 2019 manufacture tires, you’ll take 2018?
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QUOTE(AaronLJW @ May 18 2019, 05:50 PM)
You should hear before that #TyresAreNotBananas by Michelin, Malaysian always assume that newer tires are better and even just last year manufacture tyres are not good.. Tyres don't work that way and this is Malaysian mentality
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Technically, what you say is true.

But due to our weather and the mentality of business owners, i don't think the tyre shops really store it properly. I've seen shops where they throw tyres from upper floors down to technicians on the lower floor (employee safety is one thing, tyre manufacturers state to never do this), storing tyres outside, unknown storage locations, etc.

The best bet is newer is better to be on the safe side.
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QUOTE(IamAHuman @ May 18 2019, 09:54 PM)
So you are saying if given you the choice of 2018 and 2019 manufacture tires, you’ll take 2018?
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Yep, I always do

QUOTE(wkc5657 @ May 18 2019, 11:13 PM)
Technically, what you say is true.

But due to our weather and the mentality of business owners, i don't think the tyre shops really store it properly. I've seen shops where they throw tyres from upper floors down to technicians on the lower floor (employee safety is one thing, tyre manufacturers state to never do this), storing tyres outside, unknown storage locations, etc.

The best bet is newer is better to be on the safe side.
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Actually, you can't blame the mentality of the business owner, it all started off from the customer who always wants newer tyres then making owner unable to sell older tires hence always resulting them asking for newer tires from distributor/manufacturer. The cycle is like that, and I guess 95% of Malaysian have this problem not knowing the myth even manufacturer always create awareness. Malaysian just like to hear an opinion from their friends & family rather than the seller.
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QUOTE(AaronLJW @ May 19 2019, 03:37 AM)
Yep, I always do
Actually, you can't blame the mentality of the business owner, it all started off from the customer who always wants newer tyres then making owner unable to sell older tires hence always resulting them asking for newer tires from distributor/manufacturer. The cycle is like that, and I guess 95% of Malaysian have this problem not knowing the myth even manufacturer always create awareness. Malaysian just like to hear an opinion from their friends & family rather than the seller.
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Not to sound sarcastic but it's good to know you'll be taking the stocks which most Malaysians don't prefer.
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QUOTE(IamAHuman @ May 21 2019, 01:08 PM)
Not to sound sarcastic but it's good to know you'll be taking the stocks which most Malaysians don't prefer.
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What I can say is Malaysian nvr learns even research has been done proven and educated by the tyre manufacturer 🤦🏻‍♂️

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Between a 2018 and 2019 tyre, the difference can be in the selling price, tyre shop give slightly more discount for 2018/manu tyre because of perceived older tyre but there's nothing wrong with tyre in between 3 years of manufactured date...if deep pocket then go for new minted tyre, for bargain hunters 2017 tyres with good price is not a crime, and degradation is minimal to impact the integrity of the tyre
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anyone know which shop that provide good price for V12evo2 for 195/50/r16 with free balancing and alignment? i plan change my michelin xm2 to try this out.. what is the total mileage this v12evo2 can do? 40k before next tyre change?
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QUOTE(edisoner90 @ Aug 27 2019, 10:10 PM)
anyone know which shop that provide good price for V12evo2 for 195/50/r16 with free balancing and alignment? i plan change my michelin xm2 to try this out.. what is the total mileage this v12evo2 can do? 40k before next tyre change?
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V12E2 doesn't have your size.
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V12E2 doesn't have your size.
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damn,.... so sad want to try this tyre out so badly..so less rim 16 size..
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QUOTE(edisoner90 @ Aug 27 2019, 11:38 PM)
damn,.... so sad want to try this tyre out so badly..so less rim 16 size..
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You can try 205/45/16 if you dont mind slightly undersize.. 🙂
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QUOTE(AaronLJW @ Aug 28 2019, 12:03 AM)
You can try 205/45/16 if you dont mind slightly undersize.. 🙂
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i wont try 45 as it will be too bumpy and not comfort ride... slim depth tyre for more acceleration and 205 width not that optimum.
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Any sifu here know the pros/cons for v12e2 vs ps4 for 215/45/17. Currently need to replace all 4 of my conti mc5. V12e2 seems like everyone's favorite over here, definitely would like to try it out. Only thing is mostly out of stock, supplier only quoted me the hankook v2 at rm220. The ps4 is at rm400. Other tyre prices are Yoko advan v701 rm285 and re003 rm330.
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QUOTE(RoTH86 @ Aug 29 2019, 01:03 AM)
Any sifu here know the pros/cons for v12e2 vs ps4 for 215/45/17. Currently need to replace all 4 of my conti mc5. V12e2 seems like everyone's favorite over here, definitely would like to try it out. Only thing is mostly out of stock, supplier only quoted me the hankook v2 at rm220. The ps4 is at rm400. Other tyre prices are Yoko advan v701 rm285 and re003 rm330.
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I'm currently using V12Evo2 for 215/45/R17. Satisfied with dry and wet performance with price of rm290 per pc. This tyre side wall is soft, so I pumped 36psi for all. Tyre noise is acceptable for me.

Haven't had a chance to use PS4. Performance sure way much better and more expensive than V12Evo2.

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QUOTE(RoTH86 @ Aug 28 2019, 05:03 PM)
Any sifu here know the pros/cons for v12e2 vs ps4 for 215/45/17. Currently need to replace all 4 of my conti mc5. V12e2 seems like everyone's favorite over here, definitely would like to try it out. Only thing is mostly out of stock, supplier only quoted me the hankook v2 at rm220. The ps4 is at rm400. Other tyre prices are Yoko advan v701 rm285 and re003 rm330.
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Yeah...here in sabah its hard to find stock as well...
Why they dont restock it
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Good day All

Need some advice in between v12e2 & nexen su1.

Both made in Korea

I’m looking for lowest road noise as possible 🙏🏻

Please advice 🙏🏻

Appreciated guys🙏🏻


 

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