QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Jun 2 2021, 12:45 AM)
Considering RT performance right now, there's very little reason to go RTX considering how little games actually uses proper ray tracing (even if they do, it often comes with a significant performance penalty)

The only reason I may consider going RTX is DLSS, but that one might become a hard sell in the future since AMD's FSR may soon become very popular and widely adopted in games as it will be used on consoles as well (note that FSR is crossplatform, and will work from integrated graphics to next-gen consoles)

RTX performance hit is worth it in reality, because it's way more realistic than rasterization based lighting. Of course there are performance penalty, just like before ray tracing in games era, we used to complain ultra quality shadow incur too much fps loss vs high or medium quality
The reason RTX is not as beautiful as you would expect from like those 3d animations in the movie is because it is hybrid ray trace and rasterization rendering atm. I only know two full path trace games which is minecraft and quake RTX, night and day difference. And DLSS is the magic pill that moved us forward because in the future we will go into full path traced games, and resolution increase with ray tracing is way more pronounced FPS loss. It's so intelligent to offload the processing to the tensor cores. Plus Nvidia never wasted the tensor and RT + GPU core design, as it is very important in productivity software too.
Also the reason i never buy AMD atm because their support for productivity apps and OpenCL sucks, can't even run blender cycles rendering properly without buying third party plugin. And that's just to catch up with CUDA, while Nvidia already moved on from CUDA to Optix in 3d rendering softwares, utilizing the RT cores and the performance uplift vs CUDA is very significant. the RTX3090 is a monster in 3d rendering.
QUOTE(Bonchi @ Jun 2 2021, 02:11 AM)
Nah it seems dlss is very worth the commitment. And since it's pure software, it means the tensor cores should be able to support any matrix calculations including microsoft's directML super sampling which could potentially replace DLSS if it goes mainstream, which will be a win for nvidia too because they no longer need to depend on themselves to perform the training on their own super computers.
AMD technically have no hope unless they start to pickup on designing neural nodes which they are already very very far behind. So far that AVX512 could outperform their gpu on AI. The future is pretty much set with AI upsampling when it comes to gpu. Pretty soon it will be capable to upscale from 1080p to 8K.
DLSS is amazing, AMD should've gone with directML. AMD itself actually capable of putting RT and tensor cores in the future but they jumped the gun now and commited to the inferior FSR. Well at least with FSR, it is better than resolution scaling in current games lol
If AMD had supported productivity apps well and as good as CUDA, I would have bought 6800XT or 6900XT lol, I saw offer of 6900XT for around RM6.5k when I sold my RTX3070 for around rm5k last time.
Lastly, AMD actually sucked with linux drivers, 6800XT doesn't work in linux on launch day, 5700XT have serious issues on linux for months after launch.
This post has been edited by terradrive: Jun 2 2021, 10:01 AM