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post May 7 2019, 04:42 PM

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BFG bought over by Galaxy/KFA long time ago, which is now called GALAX.

GALAX still in the Msia market.

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post May 7 2019, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ May 7 2019, 11:05 PM)
dat doesnt sound right

BFG was not bought over by galax. maybe some of the ppl there went over to work in Galax HK. afaik they just stopped.

galaxy been here in malaysia for a very long time. heck i bought my 8800gtx galax from scanart directly.
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I might be wrong on being bought over. As I know BFG just went down the drain really hard and some the people went over to Galax(y), after that many others was absorbed anyways.
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post Jun 3 2019, 03:32 PM

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Nvidia doesn't have to release anything, all they have to do is reduce pricing. rolleyes.gif
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post Jun 3 2019, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Jun 3 2019, 09:55 PM)
Because AMD is almost wounded since C2D whoop their butt laugh.gif bruce.gif
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AMD is kicking Intel's ass now, technically speaking. laugh.gif

Took them long enough.
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post Jul 5 2019, 09:06 PM

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So... in conclusion;

2060 Super is 2-3% slower than 2070
2070 Super is 6-9% slower than 2080
2080 Super should be 12-15% slower than 2080Ti (based on CUDA core incrase and clock boost)

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post Jul 10 2019, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(incognitoplay @ Jul 10 2019, 10:21 AM)
Saw some sales , RTX2080 is 2.8k only (GALAX)

Should i go for it ? or wait for RTX 2080 super ? Will it better than 2080 ? and the pricing will lower than original RTX2080 ?
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No logic. RTX 2070 Super can be had for below RM2.4k. OC it and you'll gain that 6-9% perf deficit to a stock 2080. Save yourself RM400.
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post Jul 10 2019, 06:44 PM

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QUOTE(defaultname365 @ Jul 10 2019, 06:22 PM)
I'm more interested in what happens with 2080 Ti pricing... I guess it won't change?

Because 2080 Super will surely be faster than non-Super but it won't be nowhere as close as 2080 Ti, barely posing any threat to the Ti.
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Like I said, the 2080 Super will be expected to still be anywhere between 12-15% slower than the 2080Ti based on the spec sheet boost. The 2080 Super in comparison to the 2060S and 2070S gets the least amount of boost in relevance to their predecessors. Typically, you'll get around 7-10% in perf boost by OCing assuming you win a half decent silicon lottery.

Doubt Nvidia will do anything about the 2080Ti's price tag, even at its ludicrous price tag - it's still selling fairly well (not as well as the 1080Ti but still well, again considering the price tag). AMD doesn't have a card that can fight the Ti anyways, nor even anywhere near to smell it.
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QUOTE(yhsiau @ Jul 10 2019, 09:18 PM)
Red camp's Navi 20 will be out in 1st half of 2020.. Mr Huang might release a RTX 2080 super only if the Navi 20 showed some threats to RTX2080.  laugh.gif
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Uh... 2080 Super is releasing in 2 weeks time. What does that have to do with AMD's plans for 1H2020, which is 6 months away?

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post Jul 19 2019, 04:28 PM

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Retarded price. Only ~5-7% faster than regular 2080.

Better go buy regular 2080 second hand or "clearance" deals instead for lower price.
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post Jul 21 2019, 05:18 PM

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Well unfortunately the TU104 was already nearly maxed out in the first place, the Super variant doesn't have much room for improvement really. OC'ing the 2080S will probably give it another 5% of shader perf, but that's about it really. The gap is still over 15% to a 2080Ti (which isn't counting the Ti's ability to OC just as well).
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post Jul 23 2019, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(lolzcalvin @ Jul 22 2019, 10:02 PM)
aww too bad  brows.gif i wonder if i can overclock till 2080 super performance
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Shouldn't be too hard. Current 2080s get about nearly 10% extra perf on average when OC'd to the brim on air cooling, slightly more on water.
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post Jul 23 2019, 11:40 PM

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Reviews are out... differential is even less than the projected ~7% increase in perf over the OG 2080. It's only a ~5% difference in perf! LOL.

The 2080S is still a card that landed in no man's land, just like the OG 2080. It can't do 4k60 without sacrificing quality, the 2070S can do 1440p60 just as well as the 2080S can but costing a lot less. So what does the 2080S bring to the table? Maxed out Ray Tracing at 1080p60?

What a pointless card. Unfortunately, Nvidia doesn't have to decrease 2080Ti price because there's simply no competition up there.

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jul 24 2019, 12:29 AM)
funny right
noticed the 2080 rop was already maxed out.. meaning most of the gain seems like it came from the vram bump .. 10% while cuda was only 4.3% increase

hence the performance gain we see reflects this as nvidia cards oc always scales well.
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Yup yup!! Well said.

Personally I think the OG 2080 shouldn't have existed in the first place. It was a somewhat pointless card, now it's basically made entirely pointless by nvidia themselves.


QUOTE(skylinelover @ Jul 24 2019, 11:15 AM)
Woohoo i sticking another 5 years with 1070 then haha
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I think if you go search for some second hand 1080Ti, that'd be the best bang for the buck right now - otherwise it'd be the 2070S.


QUOTE(defaultname365 @ Jul 24 2019, 11:40 AM)
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Overclock 2080 = 2080 Super

I think this card was meant to entice those having second thoughts of upgrading from a 1080 (or lower) to a 2080.

But.. currently more 2080 are getting towards its MSRP and obviously this won't be the case for the new 2080 Super.

For that small performance % gain, really not worth getting a 2080 Super.
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The dumb thing is, there is no point even getting the OG 2080 unless you can find one for like really, really below MSRP. OC a 2070S and it's basically a 2080, at a much lower price. :x
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Aug 1 2019, 03:38 AM)
Actually if you OC a 2080, it tends to become faster as well biggrin.gif
My point is, either you compare stock vs stock or OC vs OC to make it accurate.
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You are correct and in a perfect world that's how we should compare. But reality is - price gouging exists.

When you calculate the differential in prices, then it makes a lot of sense to compare a 2070S to a stock 2080. After all, Nvidia themselves are advertising the 2070S as a 2080 replacement in the first place.
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Will say that Control is the first game so far to properly use ray-tracing and not some tacked' on bs that nvidia paid devs to use.

Ray-tracing in Control really, really does improves the game's atmosphere. It doesn't feel tack'd on, it doesn't feel like it's some last minute implementation, it feels like it's part of the game from the get go.

Control is also a pretty good game from Remedy btw. Been a really long while. They lost their way after Max Payne 2, glad to see them back with a game that only Remedy does.

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Aug 27 2019, 10:03 PM)
played a bit..superb game.. control
dlss already in....
reminds me of quantum break but smoother.... that game needs a 2080ti at 60fps min for 1440p because of the insane draw calls.
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Have you tried the new freestyle sharpening filter?

Personally I think it looks rather nice on this game at the lowest setting.
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post Aug 28 2019, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Aug 27 2019, 11:39 PM)
that need
geforce experience.
dont like it since it requires me to login and has alot of stuff running in the back.
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Actually... don't have to login and you can disable all telemetry.

Download GFE manually here

then,

Download this tweak that disables all telemetry and login - here

Been running GFE without telemetry for many months now.


EDIT - also another idea, instead of using DLSS, use freestyle sharpen and run at a lower internal res instead (say 70% of 4k or 1440p). It looks way sharper than DLSS and almost as good as native 4k, for Control at least.

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Aug 28 2019, 08:55 AM)
I gonna try some old console emulators with it. Those big pixels is one of the things makes me dont wanna play it.
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Don't think that will work because freestyle sharpen only works with dx9, 11 and 12 games and must be supported by the freestyle API.

But retro games, have you tried the integer scaling option?


QUOTE(ave666 @ Aug 28 2019, 11:36 AM)
How to use this
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GFE > Freestyle > Sharpen filter > adjust settings per game basis.

Note that not all games are supported. Nvidia only has about 600+ games supported currently.
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post Aug 28 2019, 03:49 PM

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This 2 images comparison shows why RT makes Control look so natural and organic with it enabled - https://images.nvidia.com/geforce-com/inter...all-rt-off.html

https://images.nvidia.com/geforce-com/inter...all-rt-off.html

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post Aug 29 2019, 03:16 PM

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Yes the cleanup from RT called the 'denoiser' is the small flaw the game has. I heard Remedy is aware of the issue and is working to improve it, but it's still a flaw you have to live with at the end of the day though.

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