Assuming one tries to invade the other, the defender will win.

If Malaysia invades, Singapore will win.

Malaysia doesn’t have the ability to launch large scale invasions. It announced in 2013 (amid the backdrop of Chinese assertiveness in the SCS) that it wanted to establish a marine corps to have that ability but no further news was heard since. Singapore is close enough to Malaysia that you don’t need a marine corps to invade the island, however a successful invasion still depends largely on attaining air superiority or at least air parity over the beachhead. Malaysia has a mix of relatively modern SU-30MKM, F-18 and MiG-29N fighter jets with a respectable arsenal of both Russian and American modern missiles to support an invasion force of assault boats and landing craft. However they are all stationed in the northern region of Malaysia and Singapore has airborne early warning and control (AEW&C) aircrafts in addition to reconnaissance UAV assets constantly patrolling its airspace in addition to ground radars (and possibly satellites) to prevent the possibility of being sneaked upon by hostile aircrafts and massed military assets at its doorstep.

Further, there are US aircraft carriers calling Singapore’s ports frequently and even the US Navy’s newest Littoral Combat Ships are stationed there on a long term basis[1]. You don’t go and rob a restaurant when there’s a heavyweight wrestler dining there and who’s friends with the owner.

Conversely if Singapore invades, Malaysia will win.

It’s an open secret that Singapore has the capability and specifically trains for an assault into Johor with a so-called Mersing Line as a target to reach and hold in order to have the water pumping stations in Skudai and Kota Tinggi well secured and beyond range of weapons such as the Astros II MLRS or 155mm howitzers. Malaysia may not be as well equipped militarily as Singapore but it has the ability to trade space for time. It knows it can’t win a war head-on with the Singapore Armed Forces and hence wouldn’t engage directly. Instead it will engage in guerilla warfare and jungle warfare with Singapore’s conscript army who are more familiar with the layout of their shopping malls rather than the Malaysian jungles. A conscript army engaged externally also means that Singapore’s economy will ground to a halt due to missing manpower if sanctions by other countries doesn’t cripple the country in two weeks to a month’s time. So if Singapore were actually on the defensive and doesn’t go beyond the Mersing Line, it’s logistics line should be manageable as per drawer plans but the further it goes beyond it the more it will be stretched and be vulnerable to guerrilla tactics by Malaysia. Not to mention it’ll have to deal with more captured ‘POW’ and civilians. They need to be kept under control, fed and taken care of. It’ll be a huge logistical burden on Singapore’s manpower and a burden that their premium war-fighting equipment isn’t actually designed to deal with.

Now if purely for the sake of this question the two armies goes for a mindless all out battle, then Singapore with more personnel that it can muster and more and better critical equipment will win:

Personnel:-

Active: SG (72,000) - MY (110,000)
Reserve: SG (1,386,000) - MY (296,000)

Army:-

Main Battle Tanks: SG (196, German Leopard 2s) - MY (48, Polish PT91Ms)
Light Tanks: SG (?? AMX-13 replacement) - MY (26, UK Scorpions)
Armored Fighting Vehicles: SG (2k+ various models) - MY (1k+ various models)
Multiple Launch Rocket Systems: SG (18 HIMARS) - MY (36, Astros II Launchers)
Self Propelled Howitzers: SG (48) - MY (0)

Air Force:-

Fighter Jets: SG (127 F-15, F-16, F-5s) - MY (75 SU-30MKM, F-18, MiG29N, BAE Hawks, F5s)
AEW&Cs: SG (4 Gulfstream 550s) - MY (0)
Attack Helicopters: SG (17 Apaches) - MY (0)

Navy:-

Frigates: SG (6, Formidable Class) - MY (2, Lekiu CLass)
Corvettes: SG (6, Victory Class) - MY (6, Kasturi & Laksamana Class)
Patrol Vessels: SG (11, Fearless Class) - MY (6, Kedah Class)
Submarines: SG (4) - MY (2)
Amphibious Ships: SG (4, Endurance LST) - MY (2, KD Seri Indera Sakti & KD Mahawangsa)

Footnotes
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/...ilitary-muscles

Indon

no brainer.

msia

nothing can stop a swarm of mat rempits

hope the mods will delete this 'us vs them war' kinda threads..

Of coz malaysia win la.

Sinkapore army full of sissy. Confirm will run away from the battle.

why dun make it Asean war
Malaysia, Indonesia, Brunei vs Singapore, Thailand, Phillipines, Vietnam

if china invade both lose

Depend on whether they (sg) can find enough bags carrier or not.

Thailand will win, economically and militarily..

We all busy fighting down south, they will roll down from the north.

on the side note, politicians wont wanna burn down own bank accounts across the borders.

there are too much songlap money parked in Sg btw

who have the most number of aweks and amois and - never mind - , will win the war by tying down the soldiers.

Waste of time

in kopitiam?

send najib sure bankrap one

Malaysia submarines boleh guna already?

tot malaysia jet no engine,, and the submarine cannot submerge 1?

one kerismudin can defeat all the tanks, ship and the army

Pm me...tq

Just stop the wayer supply from Johor. All sinkie will die in a week. No need war.

regardless who attack or invade
SG will win
Malaysia will get a political reboot
malaysian ppl will get it worst then before

china

Sg ada new water...
someomore whole marina area from saltwater become a reservoir catchment area already.

Sinki look far and plan ahead.

But can ony supply 10% only. 90% still from malaysia.

everytime there is war both side will lose in terms of economies

Sure ke,?

I remember reading somewhere b4 that Sg has water self-sufficiency already, although still keeping terms of water contract bcos cheaper.

This post has been edited by EdBaaBaa: Mar 14 2018, 09:14 AM

why the eff u like to have a war?

Bodoh. No need airplanes to invade Singapore.

We will just send 5 million Bangla to invade Singapore to overrun it.

You never play as Zergs in Starcraft?

Yes. If not our amy need only to bomb their distilled water plant. They will slowly die for sure.

Indo win.

Because its cheaper to buy raw water from Malaysia and then treat and sell it back. If malaysia tutup when in war or dispute, they will use the water supply they have.

Sg sell water to Malaysia also....

5 million bangla? Syit. That is the most scary weapon to be used.

We will not win becoz we are richer and scared to die. We songlap so much money, who wants to fight?

that is why they have Mersing line and air superiority to ensure you cant reach their critical location. if can bomb their plant, can bomb the whole island already.

Bodo

Why would Malay attacked another Malay country?

Sinkypore is so small and fragile. They bought many and advance weapon also no use. Malaysia or indon kasi hantam a few bomb sure koyak already.

No one will win. We can only bury dead people.

Sg army will win

As long as their soldiers allowed to bring maid to carry their gear

post question, then sendiri answer

Both can't win if one invade one another. Because both are defensive countries, not offensive.


Wait, singapore is defensive country or not?

msia win easy....most sinki will balik prc or australia cause sissy...msia n where to go...die die must fight for country...unless ehmm ehmm...

tak habis habis this kind of question , we will not in war because we are not a nation like middle east

yes, they even park many jet at others country far until New Zealand and US

Sg only got 1 shot of premtive strike becos long time is still an island nations that depend heavily on imports. Even we partially blockade morale of SG plummet. Assuming SG dun activate Gundam.

Aiya.

MY only need to cut water and food supply. Everyone on the island will starve to death. No need to bomb here and there. Expensive.

SG, because they already hired all Malaysian as soldiers.

The mat rempits will blot out the sun!!

Lol 2018 still think sinkapork rely on johor water.

U think they build the marina barrage for fun?

Cut off water supply then play defense. singapore will die. Bomb their water supply cable from other country. Done

Simple.

This post has been edited by kcchong2000: Mar 14 2018, 09:37 AM

One thing for certain...SG will be able to have air superiority over its territory, or even the whole semenanjung. It will be bloody to assault SG directly from JB. But MY troops can fire harassing fire with artillery on the whole SG territory. Better if aimed to electric/water processing facilities, as well as airfields.

SG can't send supplies Malacca strait, shipping must come from east. Because SG is based on service, trade and tourism, its economy will grind to a halt. People no longer work, there will be food/water/electricity shortage. There will be unrest.

MY will win....

i guess this thread will pop up few time a year

Malaysia might lose but in terms of the global community we will win their hearts and sympathy because everyone loves to root for the underdog.

later Singapore would call Israel for an aid, while whom would Malaysia call for an aid...?

for sure malaysia

human number wins
kaisiness singapore wins.. they will run away before even start war

Eh, u dunno ah

Cainis balik tongsan
Meleis balik indon
Yindian balik india
Dll? Of cos balik "lain2" places la


There's actually no msians, msians are merely figment of imagination.

Just drop a few bomb to rhe plant. Kaotim

What's wrong with you?

Y no say INDON will win?

Traitor!

imagine SG will retaliate by sending the carpet bombing over KL or Putrajaya...

Sg spent the most in military expenses in south east asia. But they have zero war experience.

I tot they got their own water plant adi?

If msia strike first, we can win. Start at 3am while sg is sleeping. Direct kabom their nearby entrance from jb. Ready 100k spies into the island the day before. Attacking within the cities. Try to bomb their electricity plant and create chaos around the city. Within 24 hours can easily penetrate inside the city and force them to sign agreement return bec sg to msia.

This post has been edited by LamTin: Mar 14 2018, 10:00 AM

sinkie gonna capture nearlee as hostage

so sinkapor win

stupid thread.

line up all of our artillery alongside the beach and fire away. those singkie abengs will pee in their pants.

Question, why would SG want to invade MY?

Another questions, why would MY want to invade SG?

this.

then only can sembang who win who lose who whatever f

jamal red army > all

they do send lot of their troops to participate in war games and training overseas and majority of their population can handle firearms due to their NS trainings.

the last sentence is the truth about Malaysians......specially certain bunch......you know.....


its the same scenario as....
You live in a terrace housing area. Everyday you keep thinking when your next door neighbour goin to break into your house and steal your things and rape and murder your family. Stupid aint it? so every fucking day you live in fear leading a fucking miserable life. May as well move your whole family to tg. Rambutan. Safer for us.

This post has been edited by Lancewood: Mar 14 2018, 10:24 AM

Singapore has been importing water from Johor, under two bilateral agreements. The first agreement was officially signed on October 1961 and expired in August 2011. The second agreement was signed on September 1962 and will expire in 2061. A maximum of 250 million gallons of water a day can be drawn from the Johor River under the agreement. Imported water can supply up to 60 percent of Singapore's water needs.

I mean real war experience and they have zero.

Example you train shooting everyday. But suddenly najib orders u to hold M16 for a real war in middle east, you will panic like hell.

But americans are different. Damn steady and easily captured iraq less than a month.

wow.. 4 pages. i didnt know so many army here. oh i forgot. u guys Red Bean Army..

wow, looking at the numbers, it's quite amazing how much they spent on military considering our gdp is quite similar

and this post being reported?

why?

U fight sinki u are bound to fight with her allies.

we win hands down.
once they conquer us they will go wtf over Malaysians working attitude and pull back their forces because we are gonna cause huge losses to them as well

Bugis warrior will defend us from any evil invasion

Why so stereotypical. I only give facts.


Yes...infiltrating hundreds of saboteurs is good. Just blow up anything accessible related to water supply, electricity and communication at H-hour

its actually a good idea. so that i dont need to fight anymore as my view already stated from beginning.

Donno but i do know that stinky fat small cock keyboard warrior will fly out 1st if anything happens.

This! The Malaysians working there is enough to sabo Sg fron inside. Ppl keep forgetting this.

later SG gonna send thousands of Liang Po Po here...

if we invade singapore...

we might win the land out of sheer number and motivation, but due to singapore heavy spend on military, we will lose a lot of resource until its hard to regain again...

then indon will come to both land...


if singapore invade us...

we will fight back and similar scenario will happen if we invade them...


anyway, indon will be ready to take the chances to win over both of us...

Thats why in real life 1 sinki= 3 malaysians.

Because people like you sembang kosong jer pandai.

armchair general

Sinki has more money to pay for banggla to do that to your water source la idiot.

And johor getting water from singapore too.

Because retards like you, how can this country wins anything?

Indonesia and Philippines will win

just send Malaysian myvi overthere. can fly, can dive, can turtle a tank.

Politically MY and SG will never engage in a full scale war or invasion via military force, at least with the current economical and political climate.



It boils down to a question of quantity (MY) vs quality (SG) however SG is capable of rapidly fielding close to 80k conscript from it's capable reserve to bolster it's military strengths should the need arise. SG have also one of the best if not the best military force in terms of training and modern military hardware in the entirety of Southeast Asia.

From a statistically standpoint of the aspect of air superiority and electronic warfare, SG will dominate hands down while in terms of raw strength of the army it will be evenly matched but MY will more than likely come out on top in a war of attrition. For the navy side it will be hard to say, but I would personally say it boils down who will take the offensive to invade each other coastal shore giving the attacker a disadvantage.

This post has been edited by Monster Hunter G: Mar 14 2018, 11:10 AM

if both go to war the real winners are defense contractors.

the bike video simply lulz

one thread that LTZ did right

Sabah Sarawak, cz they will not help and self declare as a new country teeehee

good answer indeed.

There is a good chance that they might even "join" Brunei in order to form some military, economical and political alliance. Similar to how SG have a long standing currency interchangeability agreement with Brunei till this day. The Brunei and Singapore dollar have the same exact exchange value.

ada titik

wah you macai sinkapore also ka. owsem

Why you edit my post?

How many real war experience the Malaysian army have compare to Singaporean?
Why americians come in the discussion? Americian will probably side with Singapore as well.

You think army training is just stand around shooting range to shoot?

Malaysia. Hate to say this, but malaydia got more stupid retards willing to die for country.

Sudah2 la imaginasi

we use red shirt

if then we as Malaya people gonna use passport to go Sabah Sarawak...

China's "coast guard" etc will swoop in as a "peacekeeping force" and take over.

M'sia and Sg must never fight!