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post Apr 25 2018, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(cyapd @ Apr 23 2018, 04:52 PM)
Absolute disgrace, I won't feel bad if we lose the Scudetto. Napoli deserves to win it more than us at this point. Playing at home and Max chose to sit back and absorb a full 90 min of attack from Napoli, lol!

I have no complaint from the defense, the header was pretty much unstoppable but Benatia should've challenge for it. And Pjanic, I hate it when he's frustrated and got an unnecessary yellow card at the beginning of the match. He's our playmaker and yet our CB are spraying the long balls?

At this point I would rather lose the title. It's so annoying to watch Juve play to not lose rather than trying for a win
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exactly. playing defensively at home against our main title contender, let them have the ball and invite them to attack us. also, when we had possession, we chose safety first and pass back instead of passing forward. see liverpool, a club like us punching above their weight one foot in the final, with a devastating attacking football

liverpool is like us, punching above their weight to a final. difference is we punched above our weight playing defensive football while liverpool plays attacking football. lets see which style will win. my bet is liverpool has a higher chance of winning with attacking football regardless if they are facing bayern or real

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QUOTE(McF7y @ Apr 25 2018, 08:30 AM)
Dude, thanks for sharing that article, what a good read.

As you said, there's really no point lingering over the loss to Napoli. Let's just focus on the next few games and if possible win the 7th in a row. Inter have been in good form lately but they also lost to Torino earlier this month, so...anything's possible.

I hope the team is able to overcome this slight setback and re-focus for the remainder of the season; we still have a lot to fight for.

After the season is done is when we should start talking about transfers etc I think.
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from all my experience watching Juve, they works best when they're under pressure, when their back put against the wall, and when the odds were stacked against em

like the 3-0 trailing against Real Madrid earlier this month

hopefully they'll use the loss to Napoli last week as a kickstart to shatter their hopes once again. u see those pics where Napoli celebrating the 1-0 win like they've already
won the Scudetto...and one fans already making a tattoo of that 1-0 win. Seeing Naples crying(once again) at the end of the season would be precious indeed

and about transfer talk, read somewhere that Super Mario gonna leave Juve at the end of the season. A big loss for Juve indeed
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post Apr 25 2018, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(noir7559 @ Apr 25 2018, 08:47 AM)
from all my experience watching Juve, they works best when they're under pressure, when their back put against the wall, and when the odds were stacked against em

like the 3-0 trailing against Real Madrid earlier this month

hopefully they'll use the loss to Napoli last week as a kickstart to shatter their hopes once again. u see those pics where Napoli celebrating the 1-0 win like they've already
won the Scudetto...and one fans already making a tattoo of that 1-0 win. Seeing Naples crying(once again) at the end of the season would be precious indeed

and about transfer talk, read somewhere that Super Mario gonna leave Juve at the end of the season. A big loss for Juve indeed
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That is true, our Real Madrid comeback, regardless of its sad ending, really made me proud of our spirit to fight back and I hope they use this to their advantage in the coming weeks.

It's just a sad to see us almost give in to Napoli at such a crucial time of the season when really, we should have gone for the jugular.

Yup some fans like to take such risks - I mean, if they win the scudetto then good for them and it justifies the tattoo. But... there's always a but hehe.

Yea I heard Mandzukic might leave too...and as for coaches, a few are already being named if Allegri leaves...these are all distractions at this point. I hope the players ignore these and just focus on the goal.
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post Apr 26 2018, 06:56 PM

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QUOTE(noir7559 @ Apr 24 2018, 11:30 AM)
great article...mainly about Buffon and his final season, both as Juve & Italia captain

http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/i...wright-thompson

as for the loss against Napoli, there's no use lingering over there as things happened

all Juve need to do now is doing all they can, starting against arch-rival Inter all the way to final match against Verona
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Good article.

Few years ago I got the chance to walk in Turin, few hours before wonderful match Juve - Milan.
The town was quite empty and lifeless I must say. It's like old Seremban or Melaka. If not for the snow, the road was quite dusty and old. KL roads are much better.

The atmosphere really change around Alianze Arena (J Stadium that time). It give people joy and hope. The colors of the city suddenly comes alive around the stadium. Probably I was just over excited, but being among J fans, went to the J Museum, J store, supermarket & marts etc brings everlasting joy.

Perhaps this is why Buffon was very upset. It was his last chance for UCL, but there's also 23-years wait for Juventus fans, and Juventus just come shorts on too many occasions already. It was just too heavy for Buffon.

As after the Napoli game, Juve camp is in a bit of disarray, and we as fans really need to stick together, even when losing. There are 4 finals not to be missed, so get ready.

InterMerda awaits as first victim biggrin.gif


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post Apr 27 2018, 09:02 AM

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QUOTE(zaidi @ Apr 26 2018, 06:56 PM)
Good article.

Few years ago I got the chance to walk in Turin, few hours before wonderful match Juve - Milan.
The town was quite empty and lifeless I must say. It's like old Seremban or Melaka. If not for the snow, the road was quite dusty and old. KL roads are much better.

The atmosphere really change around Alianze Arena (J Stadium that time). It give people joy and hope. The colors of the city suddenly comes alive around the stadium. Probably I was just over excited, but being among J fans, went to the J Museum, J store, supermarket & marts etc brings everlasting joy.

Perhaps this is why Buffon was very upset. It was his last chance for UCL, but there's also 23-years wait for Juventus fans, and Juventus just come shorts on too many occasions already. It was just too heavy for Buffon.

As after the Napoli game, Juve camp is in a bit of disarray, and we as fans really need to stick together, even when losing. There are 4 finals not to be missed, so get ready.

InterMerda awaits as first victim biggrin.gif
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actually while the wait for our 3rd UCL is long, the painful thing is that we actually came so close on 5 occasions and lost all which is unacceptable. I rather not go into a final to lose because losing a final is way more painful than say losing a quarter or semi final tie doh.gif cry.gif

there is an old chinese saying "even a dog will one day has its day. as in finally get a good day" we were in 5 UCL finals and we r worse than a dog. haha doh.gif

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post Apr 29 2018, 05:12 AM

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While someone gonna say this win against Merda will be a huge morale boost, yes I agree. But:

Pls don't let Barzagli play ANYMORE even if it's against Selangor FC. He's just an old folk who can't play football no more

Rugani, the 2nd goal was 99% on him. Blocking a cross from Perisic while covering his p*n*s? I hope any club from EPL start contacting us to sign him for a good fee

Cuadrado is a serial murderer that kills off our attacking momentum. His decision making is worse than my 3 year old son

Sandro, sell him to any of the sugar daddy clubs. He can't defend or cross to save his live

I love Matuidi for his work rate but his first touch is heavier than an elephant. It makes my heart bleed seeing those first touch

Pjanic, he's lucky not to be sent off. He's offering close to ZERO for the team. He's just disinterested to play

A must win game, 1 man advantage for the rest of almost 75 min and we are not attacking them at all. That's on Max

We got this win with sheer luck, yeah you can argue Dybala took a great FK for Pipita to score. Handanovic barely moved more than 2 inches for all the 3 goals

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This Juve team is not for the faint hearted...

Eventhough i felt Juve should've get the job done earlier against 10-man Inter..but still, the drive to win after falling behind is the spark we're badly missing against Napoli a week ago

3 precious pts. Forza Juve
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Unbelievable.

I'm happy for the win and the last minute nature of it - we really saw our guys play it out till the end literally.

However, I do share a lot of the sentiments as you guys.

I mean, how is it that we looked like the team that was down to 10-men? I don't know if it's Allegri who wants us to sit on the slim lead or what but seriously if we want to win this, we need to buck up.

Otherwise, would've been kinda interesting to see how Napoli reacted.

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QUOTE(McF7y @ Apr 29 2018, 09:18 AM)
Unbelievable.

I'm happy for the win and the last minute nature of it - we really saw our guys play it out till the end literally.

However, I do share a lot of the sentiments as you guys.

I mean, how is it that we looked like the team that was down to 10-men? I don't know if it's Allegri who wants us to sit on the slim lead or what but seriously if we want to win this, we need to buck up.

Otherwise, would've been kinda interesting to see how Napoli reacted.
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And not to mentioned we're suck when it comes to defending set pieces

How many times has we conceded a goal like that. It already cost us against Napoli...and nearly did the same last night. No one marking Icardi? When the dude having a great scoring record against Juve. Like seriously..
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post Apr 30 2018, 02:07 AM

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Lol. Napoli another season end choking game. If we win 2 of the 3 remaining games then it's another title for us

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QUOTE(cyapd @ Apr 30 2018, 02:07 AM)
Lol. Napoli another season end choking game. If we win 2 of the 3 remaining games then it's another title for us

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hopefully this guy didn't forget to made a tattoo written like this

" 8' Koulibaly [Red Card] "

right next to this one

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q...dRvIrXcFHuwZWOC

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QUOTE(noir7559 @ Apr 29 2018, 11:24 AM)
And not to mentioned we're suck when it comes to defending set pieces

How many times has we conceded a goal like that. It already cost us against Napoli...and nearly did the same last night. No one marking Icardi? When the dude having a great scoring record against Juve. Like seriously..
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You are spot on about our set piece defending, it has been pretty bad this time around.

About our performances lately, I've been thinking maybe, just maybe that we've been too harsh on the team. Perhaps you guys can chip in as well, but I decided to take a look at the other top leagues; La Liga, Bundesliga and EPL...and I realised that...actually, we are not too far off the top performers of those respective leagues.

I'm not sure if we can do a direct comparison between the leagues because each league is set up differently in terms of its idiosyncracies. A good example would be the style of play each league has - for example we hear people say that Serie A is boring because it's too tactical; while others say that the EPL is the fastest paced league - exciting to watch and so and so forth.

And hence the UCL is there to show us who is the top in all of Europe. But if we look at the individual leagues:

1. La Liga: Barca at 34 games with 86 points
2. EPL: Man City at 35 games with 93 points
3. Bundesliga: Bayern Munich at 32 games with 81 points
4. Serie A: Juve at 35 games with 88 points

I mean, performance in Europe aside, we are actually doing pretty well alongside the top of each league - Man City may be exempted due to an extraordinary season and an even more extraordinary coach in Pep Guardiola blush.gif

I mean, we're up there guys - nothing to be ashamed about honestly. That being said though, it is true that we have dropped in our performance level in the last few games especially in terms of concentration and killing off games. Sometimes it seems like the players don't really want the scudetto!

One thing that has me worried though is that a few journalists are already starting to write articles about the start of an end of an era for Juve. I'm not saying I agree but they do have their points. A couple points which kinda make sense are things like (if Juve win the 7th in a row) how hungry will they be next season and stuff like the old guard are gradually leaving Juve, with Buffon, Barzagli probably making way for a new generation. Other stuff also like, how long can a team continue like this - in fact I'm not even sure the longest streak of a team winning the domestic championship... is it Man Utd?

Some of the questions, to me at least, make sense and have some truth to it. It'll just be hard for me to swallow when it actually happens...and we all know a streak will end at some point.


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QUOTE(McF7y @ Apr 30 2018, 08:26 AM)
You are spot on about our set piece defending, it has been pretty bad this time around.

About our performances lately, I've been thinking maybe, just maybe that we've been too harsh on the team. Perhaps you guys can chip in as well, but I decided to take a look at the other top leagues; La Liga, Bundesliga and EPL...and I realised that...actually, we are not too far off the top performers of those respective leagues.

sometimes yep, we've been quite harsh. But main reason is that the team doesn't look like having a "character" of champions in some of the matches. Prime example was against Napoli
Playing not to lose, playing to defend a slim lead etc. Hence IMO these are the main reason why some of fans were quite harsh towards the team


I mean, performance in Europe aside, we are actually doing pretty well alongside the top of each league - Man City may be exempted due to an extraordinary season and an even more extraordinary coach in Pep Guardiola  blush.gif

the team actually doing quite well in UCL this season. We're only behind the mighty Barca in the group, and knocking out Spurs whose undefeated & top of their group with the likes of Real & Dortmund

and the tie against Real could've gone either way if not for that harsh last minute penalty


I mean, we're up there guys - nothing to be ashamed about honestly. That being said though, it is true that we have dropped in our performance level in the last few games especially in terms of concentration and killing off games. Sometimes it seems like the players don't really want the scudetto!

see my comment in red above

One thing that has me worried though is that a few journalists are already starting to write articles about the start of an end of an era for Juve. I'm not saying I agree but they do have their points. A couple points which kinda make sense are things like (if Juve win the 7th in a row) how hungry will they be next season and stuff like the old guard are gradually leaving Juve, with Buffon, Barzagli probably making way for a new generation. Other stuff also like, how long can a team continue like this - in fact I'm not even sure the longest streak of a team winning the domestic championship... is it Man Utd?

Some of the questions, to me at least, make sense and have some truth to it. It'll just be hard for me to swallow when it actually happens...and we all know a streak will end at some point.

Lyon holds the record for top 5 European league IINM. With 7 straight win streak.

and yeah, our streak would ended sometimes soon...but i'm optimistic it would NOT be this season to Napoli...not yet..

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QUOTE(noir7559 @ Apr 30 2018, 08:12 AM)
hopefully this guy didn't forget to made a tattoo written like this

" 8' Koulibaly [Red Card] "

right next to this one

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q...dRvIrXcFHuwZWOC
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QUOTE(noir7559 @ Apr 30 2018, 10:47 AM)

QUOTE(McF7y @ Apr 30 2018, 08:26 AM)
You are spot on about our set piece defending, it has been pretty bad this time around.

About our performances lately, I've been thinking maybe, just maybe that we've been too harsh on the team. Perhaps you guys can chip in as well, but I decided to take a look at the other top leagues; La Liga, Bundesliga and EPL...and I realised that...actually, we are not too far off the top performers of those respective leagues.

sometimes yep, we've been quite harsh. But main reason is that the team doesn't look like having a "character" of champions in some of the matches. Prime example was against Napoli
Playing not to lose, playing to defend a slim lead etc. Hence IMO these are the main reason why some of fans were quite harsh towards the team

I mean, performance in Europe aside, we are actually doing pretty well alongside the top of each league - Man City may be exempted due to an extraordinary season and an even more extraordinary coach in Pep Guardiola  blush.gif

the team actually doing quite well in UCL this season. We're only behind the mighty Barca in the group, and knocking out Spurs whose undefeated & top of their group with the likes of Real & Dortmund

and the tie against Real could've gone either way if not for that harsh last minute penalty

I mean, we're up there guys - nothing to be ashamed about honestly. That being said though, it is true that we have dropped in our performance level in the last few games especially in terms of concentration and killing off games. Sometimes it seems like the players don't really want the scudetto!

see my comment in red above

One thing that has me worried though is that a few journalists are already starting to write articles about the start of an end of an era for Juve. I'm not saying I agree but they do have their points. A couple points which kinda make sense are things like (if Juve win the 7th in a row) how hungry will they be next season and stuff like the old guard are gradually leaving Juve, with Buffon, Barzagli probably making way for a new generation. Other stuff also like, how long can a team continue like this - in fact I'm not even sure the longest streak of a team winning the domestic championship... is it Man Utd?

Some of the questions, to me at least, make sense and have some truth to it. It'll just be hard for me to swallow when it actually happens...and we all know a streak will end at some point.

Lyon holds the record for top 5 European league IINM. With 7 straight win streak.

and yeah, our streak would ended sometimes soon...but i'm optimistic it would NOT be this season to Napoli...not yet..

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Fully agreed with your comment in red.

I really hope our streak does not end this season bro, we need to win the 7th!!


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Honestly I don't mind if we lose the scudetto either this season or next. What piss me off is the negative tactics of Max. Who in the hell will sit back after a goal lead and absorb their opponents' attack for the rest of the game? Just play the game how it's started, try to score another 1 or 2 then only you think about sitting back

The results in the league doesn't represent the gap between us and the other European powerhouse. It's the mind set and how we approach the game that separates us from them

I know it's our DNA to show respect towards our opponents by not totally destroy them. TBH, this is BS. You have scored 3 against this opponent and then you just stop playing football by simply backpass, headless chicken runs etc? This is more disrespecting than scoring for fun against them

We will never reach the top as long as we are instilled with the negative tactics/mindset
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QUOTE(cyapd @ Apr 30 2018, 02:20 PM)
Honestly I don't mind if we lose the scudetto either this season or next. What piss me off is the negative tactics of Max. Who in the hell will sit back after a goal lead and absorb their opponents' attack for the rest of the game? Just play the game how it's started, try to score another 1 or 2 then only you think about sitting back

The results in the league doesn't represent the gap between us and the other European powerhouse. It's the mind set and how we approach the game that separates us from them

I know it's our DNA to show respect towards our opponents by not totally destroy them. TBH, this is BS. You have scored 3 against this opponent and then you just stop playing football by simply backpass, headless chicken runs etc? This is more disrespecting than scoring for fun against them

We will never reach the top as long as we are instilled with the negative tactics/mindset
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Juve really need a little breathe of fresh air, in other words, reJUVEnated

starting with a non-Italian manager...bcoz usually Italian would always have that "defensive/playing not to lose" mentality

attackers looks quite alright right now but the midfield & defense need to be revamped
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As much as we've not been ourselves lately, we cannot totally disregard the earlier part of the season.

I mean, we're at the top for a reason, we had a pretty good start, Napoli had a better start. We kept our pace with them for a LONG TIME. They fumbled, we overtook them, stretched the lead up to 7 points for some time, then we fumbled and only had a 1 point lead for a week, we made amends and Napoli lost to a resurgent Fiorentina and now we are at a 4 point lead.

That being said, even I notice the 'lack of hunger or passion' in recent games and if this keeps up, I'm (still) afraid we might lose the Scudetto to Napoli.

However, the entire season cannot be summed up in our last month of performances; that would in essence ignore our earlier achievements in my opinion.

It is true though, we need a revamp or a rejuvenation of sorts to keep the team and the players constantly hungry for success.

Lets wrap up the Scudetto soon hopefully, then focus on the summer mercato.


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the match against Bologna this Saturday is another MUST win

and the 3-4 days later its the Coppa Italia final, i'm still baffled why the FIGC didn't scheduled this match on the weekend (Sat or Sunday) instead

failure in UCL meaning that these 2 domestic trophies is a MUST for Juve...winning just either one of em can be considered an underachievement by current Juve standard...while the worst case scenario are failure to win both...
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QUOTE(cyapd @ Apr 30 2018, 02:20 PM)
Honestly I don't mind if we lose the scudetto either this season or next. What piss me off is the negative tactics of Max. Who in the hell will sit back after a goal lead and absorb their opponents' attack for the rest of the game? Just play the game how it's started, try to score another 1 or 2 then only you think about sitting back

The results in the league doesn't represent the gap between us and the other European powerhouse. It's the mind set and how we approach the game that separates us from them

I know it's our DNA to show respect towards our opponents by not totally destroy them. TBH, this is BS. You have scored 3 against this opponent and then you just stop playing football by simply backpass, headless chicken runs etc? This is more disrespecting than scoring for fun against them

We will never reach the top as long as we are instilled with the negative tactics/mindset
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i agree. it is the mindset, poor performances and negative tactics that are of major concerns. this juve side has alot more potential than what they are currently showing vmad.gif

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