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Feb 28 2018, 08:30 AM
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Feb 28 2018, 08:54 AM
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QUOTE(shadow_fax @ Feb 28 2018, 06:59 AM) And this shall be the final... RM2700 that is quite cheap. did they run the wires in pvc conduit?Paircoil RM1050 (balance 4~5m) Inaba ducting RM550 (balance about 40%) Labour RM1100 5 units piping installation all non concealed except: - Living hall drain pipe concealed ~20ft at carporch - Ground floor room drain pipe concealed ~7ft at wet kitchen AC unit installation yet to include, about RM100 per unit regardless of HP using the same installer. how many days to install all the piping works? |
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Feb 28 2018, 09:08 AM
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Feb 28 2018, 10:30 AM
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QUOTE(shadow_fax @ Feb 28 2018, 07:37 AM) It's confirmed easier to lay for ducted installation vs concealed. And also it's easier too using pre-insulated copper. Also it should be better using individually sleeved copper, but whether we can "feel" it will be another story. Thanks for the feedback. Indeed it's easier to lay and the labour time in laying is reduced esp when they don't have to slip the insulation on to the bare piping. One thing though you have to note is when they drill outdoor, it should be slanted and not level as in slanted downwards from inside towards the outside. This prevent rain intrusion when there's a seal compromise at the Slimduct where the piping comes outside from indoor.Mostly if not all would still use normal copper and insulate with superlon/insulflex due to cost concern. I'm not sure how much it costs to purchase superlon/insulflex, but copper coil probably around RM100++ for 15m length, and paircoil costs at least RM500~RM600 for 20m length. It all depends on individual (owner), and the installer. Just note the compressor noise when it's at the beginning and when it reaches the set temperature. Also inverters and non inverters will have differently noise patterns. "Feeling" is subjective however. Objectively, just ensure the AC HPis sized according to the cooling load required of that space. Also we have be realistic in our expectation. It's ok to cool to 25-27°C but if the space is large with lots of leakages, don't expect it to be able to maintain set at 24°C or lower when the AC is undersized. Leakages are stairwell, open floor spacing esp living and dining zones that connects to kitchen without open-ended partitions, doors and windows that are not airtight, extractor fan in operation at the back or upstairs. Think how a space can be made like a box freezer, that's how can air leakages can be reduced. Tightening the building air envelope takes a very intentional approach from design stage. The double story home will always have one main or two main leakage areas, the dining-kitchen and the stairwell. Looking forward to your house renovation journey and thanks for sharing it. This post has been edited by halcyon27: Feb 28 2018, 10:32 AM |
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Feb 28 2018, 10:57 AM
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QUOTE(shadow_fax @ Feb 28 2018, 08:30 AM) Consider a large single bowl that fits wok. Contact Zheilwane for his customised wok fitting bowl which I believe is custom made by HCE. See here. You'll want that and the primary kitchen user will thank you for it.This post has been edited by halcyon27: Feb 28 2018, 11:25 AM |
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Feb 28 2018, 12:24 PM
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QUOTE(halcyon27 @ Feb 28 2018, 10:30 AM) Thanks for the feedback. Indeed it's easier to lay and the labour time in laying is reduced esp when they don't have to slip the insulation on to the bare piping. One thing though you have to note is when they drill outdoor, it should be slanted and not level as in slanted downwards from inside towards the outside. This prevent rain intrusion when there's a seal compromise at the Slimduct where the piping comes outside from indoor. Just note the compressor noise when it's at the beginning and when it reaches the set temperature. Also inverters and non inverters will have differently noise patterns. "Feeling" is subjective however. Objectively, just ensure the AC HPis sized according to the cooling load required of that space. Also we have be realistic in our expectation. It's ok to cool to 25-27°C but if the space is large with lots of leakages, don't expect it to be able to maintain set at 24°C or lower when the AC is undersized. Leakages are stairwell, open floor spacing esp living and dining zones that connects to kitchen without open-ended partitions, doors and windows that are not airtight, extractor fan in operation at the back or upstairs. Think how a space can be made like a box freezer, that's how can air leakages can be reduced. Tightening the building air envelope takes a very intentional approach from design stage. The double story home will always have one main or two main leakage areas, the dining-kitchen and the stairwell. Looking forward to your house renovation journey and thanks for sharing it. |
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Feb 28 2018, 12:25 PM
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QUOTE(halcyon27 @ Feb 28 2018, 10:57 AM) Consider a large single bowl that fits wok. Contact Zheilwane for his customised wok fitting bowl which I believe is custom made by HCE. See here. You'll want that and the primary kitchen user will thank you for it. Yes am aware of it... https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2144773/all |
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Feb 28 2018, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE(shadow_fax @ Feb 28 2018, 12:25 PM) Wow, thanks for the link. You've done well in your research it seems. Looking forward to more pleasant surprises. Good luck. |
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Mar 26 2018, 12:16 PM
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Mar 26 2018, 01:39 PM
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Hi, may I how much for the plaster ceiling per sqft quoted by ur contractor ???
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Mar 26 2018, 02:04 PM
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Mar 26 2018, 05:29 PM
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Mar 26 2018, 07:16 PM
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Mar 27 2018, 02:56 PM
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Mar 27 2018, 03:52 PM
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Mar 28 2018, 12:19 PM
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Mar 28 2018, 10:44 PM
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Mar 29 2018, 06:33 AM
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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Mar 28 2018, 10:44 PM) Well, I’m new to reno, no experience at all. Hardly find a good contractor, friends who did them not recommend their installers. This contractor I found thru lowyat, at least with some good reviews (of course whether it’s genuine review).Of course there are cheaper ones out there, RM2 per sqft, but I doubt how’s the quality & workmanship. Mostly start from RM2.20~RM2.30. My area less than 1000sqft, the difference will be around RM300, not a huge amount. Texted few contractors, some too busy to respond. Some won’t disclose any other info except price and demand site visit. This contractor is better, willing to discuss, share info & recommend even without site visit. So I chose him. |
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Mar 29 2018, 08:53 AM
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QUOTE(shadow_fax @ Mar 29 2018, 06:33 AM) Well, I’m new to reno, no experience at all. Hardly find a good contractor, friends who did them not recommend their installers. This contractor I found thru lowyat, at least with some good reviews (of course whether it’s genuine review). Understood. Thanks for sharing your thoughtsOf course there are cheaper ones out there, RM2 per sqft, but I doubt how’s the quality & workmanship. Mostly start from RM2.20~RM2.30. My area less than 1000sqft, the difference will be around RM300, not a huge amount. Texted few contractors, some too busy to respond. Some won’t disclose any other info except price and demand site visit. This contractor is better, willing to discuss, share info & recommend even without site visit. So I chose him. May I know where is your location? Is it in KL/Selangor area? Maybe can use your case as reference for my own in the future This post has been edited by WhitE LighteR: Mar 29 2018, 08:56 AM |
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Mar 29 2018, 09:40 AM
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