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post Feb 14 2018, 10:17 AM, updated 8y ago

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CNY balik kampung. Back to my own room.
Found out my room old ceiling fan. Only work at speed no. 5

If select 1-4. All stop working. Like work as no. 0

Is it fan problem or the electric regulator problem?

My dad said he ask repair man. He said it is fan problem.

My thought is since the fan is working on speed no. 5. Should be the regulator problem right?

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post Feb 14 2018, 10:18 AM

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Ghost is hanging on the blades.. Only speed 5 can move them.
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post Feb 14 2018, 10:18 AM

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Try after it spin st 5, reduce it back to other level.
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post Feb 14 2018, 10:18 AM

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seems like regulator problem
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post Feb 14 2018, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(Davez89 @ Feb 14 2018, 10:18 AM)
Ghost is hanging on the blades.. Only speed 5 can move them.
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post Feb 14 2018, 10:19 AM

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Your dad is right.
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post Feb 14 2018, 10:20 AM

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If you have a spare working regular, try replacing it. If replacing the regular doesn't work, then it's fan problem.
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post Feb 14 2018, 10:20 AM

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Walaowei still using non-remote control ceiling fan......

I never use ceiling fan at max speed, it's scary. So just replace a new fan lah.
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post Feb 14 2018, 10:20 AM

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got faulty chip/component on the fan itself.

try change the regulator first, since its cheap and easy. if that won't fix your issue, then see my line above.

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post Feb 14 2018, 10:20 AM

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post Feb 14 2018, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(amxpayne67 @ Feb 14 2018, 10:18 AM)
seems like regulator problem
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post Feb 14 2018, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(iGamer @ Feb 14 2018, 10:20 AM)
Walaowei still using non-remote control ceiling fan......

I never use ceiling fan at max speed, it's scary. So just replace a new fan lah.
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unker like using ceiling fan with normal regulator...also max speed not really that fast.
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post Feb 14 2018, 10:21 AM

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The capacitor at the fan is the problem. Try to remove the top and change the capacitor. It is a small black box (smaller than a matchbox). If you can, remove it and buy a new one and replace it.
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post Feb 14 2018, 10:21 AM

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Looks like pretty aged fan. get a new one
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post Feb 14 2018, 10:21 AM

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Old fans tend to do that, time to repair/replace the fan
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post Feb 14 2018, 10:21 AM

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CNY ma......change new 1 la......cost 100+ only

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post Feb 14 2018, 10:24 AM

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High chance motor problem
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Feb 14 2018, 10:20 AM)
Walaowei still using non-remote control ceiling fan......

I never use ceiling fan at max speed, it's scary. So just replace a new fan lah.
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All my house non-remote. Some over 30 years, still working.

I see those with remote control, some not even 1 year spoil edi. But remote control type usually got nicer blade design, DC motor, but sked not reliable.
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post Feb 14 2018, 10:30 AM

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the problem is u for being stingy~ just buy new one la~ buruk oledi~ new KDK regulator type ceiling fan cost only RM120-150~
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post Feb 14 2018, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(tokdukun @ Feb 14 2018, 10:24 AM)
All my house non-remote. Some over 30 years, still working.

I see those with remote control, some not even 1 year spoil edi. But remote control type usually got nicer blade design, DC motor, but sked not reliable.
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in terms of reliability, regulator type wins~ the wind generated oso more compared to remote type yet cheaper~
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post Feb 14 2018, 10:33 AM

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fan problem...the fan got used to being overpowered so must stay on 5 because need that much power...1-4 not enough power so cannot move
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post Feb 14 2018, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(iGamer @ Feb 14 2018, 10:20 AM)
Walaowei still using non-remote control ceiling fan......

I never use ceiling fan at max speed, it's scary. So just replace a new fan lah.
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max speed = final destination

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post Feb 14 2018, 10:35 AM

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my house downstares fan all remote, upstairs all regulator. remote is cumbersome (sometimes cannot detect the IR, need to point properly) and i have to change batteries every few months. regulator just works. but regulator need to place right next to switch so can be ugly.
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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Feb 14 2018, 10:18 AM)
Try after it spin st 5, reduce it back to other level.
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Ya. Tried. All other no. 1-4. All not working. Like no electricity supply
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post Feb 14 2018, 10:38 AM

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Jus replace the whole thing lah. Remote control fan not very expensive nowadays.
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post Feb 14 2018, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(afiqms @ Feb 14 2018, 10:31 AM)
in terms of reliability, regulator type wins~ the wind generated oso more compared to remote type yet cheaper~
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That's why, but I jelly a bit the remote type gets nicer aerodynamic wings, should be quieter and less wobbly. Top spec Panasonic also got DC motor, should be quieter and more energy efficient too.

But thinking about the reliability kills the thought, so nope. Tak nak pening, tak payah fikir, beli je basic regulator type.
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post Feb 14 2018, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(calistoga @ Feb 14 2018, 10:21 AM)
The capacitor at the fan is the problem. Try to remove the top and change the capacitor. It is a small black box (smaller than a matchbox). If you can, remove it and buy a new one and replace it.
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if cap prob all speed oso kenot spin
also, it can kill u if not discharged properly
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QUOTE(tokdukun @ Feb 14 2018, 10:39 AM)
That's why, but I jelly a bit the remote type gets nicer aerodynamic wings, should be quieter and less wobbly. Top spec Panasonic also got DC motor, should be quieter and more energy efficient too.

But thinking about the reliability kills the thought, so nope. Tak nak pening, tak payah fikir, beli je basic regulator type.
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I just moved into my own house this year and I installed remote type ceiling fans for living room and regulator type inside the rooms~ coz I prefer more air flow in the room, aircond is only for bringing the temperature down~ furthermore, regulator type fan like KDK oso have colours now like brown and bronze~ so, no more boring white ceiling fans
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post Feb 14 2018, 10:48 AM

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A brand new fan cost less than RM100. I got a KDK from Home Pro at that price. Even at retail it would cost slightly more. The max at RM130 online. Rather than finding out how or where you could fix the fan, just change it.
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post Feb 14 2018, 10:50 AM

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Since you lama kasi tinggal it, maybe the contact point on the regulator oxidize or something. Try cleaning it
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QUOTE(tokdukun @ Feb 14 2018, 10:39 AM)
That's why, but I jelly a bit the remote type gets nicer aerodynamic wings, should be quieter and less wobbly. Top spec Panasonic also got DC motor, should be quieter and more energy efficient too.

But thinking about the reliability kills the thought, so nope. Tak nak pening, tak payah fikir, beli je basic regulator type.
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I got install one of the high-end DC motor Panasonic fan, at higher end speed will still have some noise. It has 8/9 speed but I never went beyond speed 5.
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post Feb 14 2018, 10:52 AM

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Syukur its maxed out instead of stuck at speed 1, judging from the weather these days
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post Feb 14 2018, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(tokdukun @ Feb 14 2018, 10:24 AM)
All my house non-remote. Some over 30 years, still working.

I see those with remote control, some not even 1 year spoil edi. But remote control type usually got nicer blade design, DC motor, but sked not reliable.
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1 thing is KDK & Panasonic uses same PCB maker if batch problem all affected. also cost cutting.

another reason is Remote got limited service time.

and lastly new things more sensitive to unstable voltage.

like Samsung & LG, if your house supply unstable, inverter very easy problem.
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post Feb 14 2018, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(afiqms @ Feb 14 2018, 10:31 AM)
in terms of reliability, regulator type wins~ the wind generated oso more compared to remote type yet cheaper~
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now where still can find regulator type?

those no name brand maybe still got, but panasonic all i see are remote.
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QUOTE(shiroamada @ Feb 14 2018, 10:17 AM)
CNY balik kampung. Back to my own room.
Found out my room old ceiling fan. Only work at speed no. 5

If select 1-4. All stop working. Like work as no. 0

Is it fan problem or the electric regulator problem?

My dad said he ask repair man. He said it is fan problem.

My thought is since the fan is working on speed no. 5. Should be the regulator problem right?

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the new fan only cost rm150...installation dunno how much
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QUOTE(advocado @ Feb 14 2018, 10:58 AM)
1 thing is KDK & Panasonic uses same PCB maker if batch problem all affected. also cost cutting.

another reason is Remote got limited service time.

and lastly new things more sensitive to unstable voltage.

like Samsung & LG, if your house supply unstable, inverter very easy problem.
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Yea, I heard now KDK & Panasonic no longer legendary reliability. Their remote fans easy to spoil.

My Samsung triangle inverter aircond bought in 2014, still works reliably.
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QUOTE(afiqms @ Feb 14 2018, 10:30 AM)
the problem is u for being stingy~ just buy new one la~ buruk oledi~ new KDK regulator type ceiling fan cost only RM120-150~
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This is avoiding the problem, not solve the problem. Tayar pancit donno change how? change whole new car la, only cost a few k for old proton, if this is your concept whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Hiwatari @ Feb 14 2018, 10:41 AM)
if cap prob all speed oso kenot spin
also, it can kill u if not discharged properly
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Its not an inverter capacitor. So it doesn't store much charge compared to electrolytic caps.
Trust me, I am a servo drive repairman.
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post Feb 14 2018, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(shiroamada @ Feb 14 2018, 10:37 AM)
Ya. Tried. All other no. 1-4. All not working. Like no electricity supply
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buy new set, go home and change the regulator first, test the speed first, if still the same then change the fan too.

you can also try to change the fan capacitor first if it give you problem spinning. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(advocado @ Feb 14 2018, 10:59 AM)
now where still can find regulator type?

those no name brand maybe still got, but panasonic all i see are remote.
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Panasonic still got, saw at Giant before. The topkek part is the blade is exposed, looks so cincai they cut the box and polystyrene in half, so only the regulator, motor wrapped properly, the blade is not fully wrapped. I believe it's originally a combo of 2, but cut in half to sell 1 by 1.

Else, Sharp can be found at Aeon Big.
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post Feb 14 2018, 11:08 AM

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Does your fan has remote control? If it has, you have to remove the old regulator.
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QUOTE(calistoga @ Feb 14 2018, 10:21 AM)
The capacitor at the fan is the problem. Try to remove the top and change the capacitor. It is a small black box (smaller than a matchbox). If you can, remove it and buy a new one and replace it.
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This is the solution
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post Feb 14 2018, 11:44 AM

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maybe regulator problem.
5 [max] level is direct
1/2/3/4 goes thru a stepdown circuit which reduces the electrical power [speed]

there are 2 types of regulator.
1. wire coils - very very old type. check for broken wire.
2. capacitors - series in connection. any one spoilt all won't work

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run it at speed 5 for 1 or 2 min. then try to slow it down. Like an airplane lol
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post Feb 14 2018, 11:52 AM

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Buy new one. Less than rm200 plus workmanship.

Can use for years. For your own room also.
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post Feb 14 2018, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(Hiwatari @ Feb 14 2018, 10:41 AM)
if cap prob all speed oso kenot spin
also, it can kill u if not discharged properly
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Normally. the defect is more to specific range of capacitance value. Hence, no. 5 may still be able to run. Yes, please make sure everything is off before touching it.

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post Feb 14 2018, 01:37 PM

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gunk buildup in potentiometer

disassemble and clean the black horseshoe thingy (bottom right in peekture)

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post Feb 14 2018, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(advocado @ Feb 14 2018, 10:59 AM)
now where still can find regulator type?

those no name brand maybe still got, but panasonic all i see are remote.
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U go see Lazatdada got sell normal regulator type. Delivery to your doorstep.

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inb4 the fin cut the head into half
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post Feb 14 2018, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(afiqms @ Feb 14 2018, 03:03 PM)
U go see Lazatdada got sell normal regulator type. Delivery to your doorstep.

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all 3 blades only. 3 blades not good.
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likely capacitor going to kong soon
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QUOTE(calistoga @ Feb 14 2018, 01:02 PM)
Normally. the defect is more to specific range of capacitance value. Hence, no. 5 may still be able to run. Yes, please make sure everything is off before touching it.
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not only that.

have to discharge the capacitor properly before can handle it safely.

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post Feb 14 2018, 09:54 PM

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take out the cover, put your finger into the socket hole.
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post Feb 14 2018, 10:44 PM

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lol.. i remember in high school a ceiling fan fell off..luckily the fella who is always be under that fan is not there at that time

ganti baru je la ts
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post Oct 29 2018, 12:17 AM

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I had same issue for slow speed fan and "wong wong" sound.
for.KDK fan. I change the 3 capacitor which I bought from lelong as I do not know how to diagnose the issue. Issue resolved and works good till now.

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