Thank you veli much enkadirmainbola! That was very helpful!~
Am very glad to hear your story. It's a great encouragement.

This post has been edited by yamakidd: Jun 9 2007, 07:27 PM

I would ask the earlier posters in the thread to please give more experience like this, because to us students it's very blur blur. Although what people keep saying is 'work hard' and 'be creative' it's very tough for us to understand, because we have the potential to excel, only we want to make sure we get rewarded for it. There probably are people working 10 times harder and smarter and will get peanuts.

So please try to share experience like what kind of academic background or job experience you had, how you got the first job(interview, recommendation, headhunted, offer), how you worked your way up, and what kind of important career decisions you made, like choosing to change industry/division/company. I know it will feel very sensitive, because if people asked me what I do for money I would never say, but I assure you it will help us a lot.

This post has been edited by Slowpoke: Jun 10 2007, 06:52 AM

trust for this type of salary request, a degree holder would be the entry point. some ppl opt being a grasshopper and apparently got a salary inrease in short term, though, that subjects to his ability to stay longer in the last company.

for me, attitute & experience are the contributing factors to career advancement. i will quote an example for a fresh programmer job working with an insurance company. first 1-2 years, he will probably remained as a junior/semi-senior title with approximately RM2.5K - 2.8K. normally, increment with corporate companies is peanut, even with you being the top performer. well, there will still be exception, but, not many.

here, consider a jump to similar industry with your 2 years of experiences. seek for a senior position. probably, you will look at senior analyst programmer, or may attempt systems analyst. these jobs, should have easily RM 3k - RM4k. now, being a full-timer developer in this company, learn to pick up project management role. you don't wish to be life time programmer aren't you? in actual fact, a 10 years developer title in an insurance company will bring you no further up for your career. it would, probably, for vendors industry.

back to the project management role, ask for a chance from your superior to run a small project if you are new to it. try to exhibit your ability to manage and run that project till its implementation. you will get more chances to run other projects if the first one is positive. here, you will have to be a little choosy... request for projects that will bring value to the companies. value can be in the form of increase of revenue, reduction of operating costs, or even reduction of head-count. well, you need to do something obvious to "notify" your superior or even your top management! this also means once you are recognised, you will be rewarded with promotion and salary adjustment.

This post has been edited by callmepaper: Jun 10 2007, 11:55 AM

even gov uni can give that rate.

gov uni.......i doubt.....spoke to a few PhD lecturers in uni b4....not tht high...

i salute you man..diploma in mechatronic ~
already earn 7k

Yeah, I would also like to know the answer to this question

call centre? better don't expect so much, probably only the manager can earn that much.

uh dunno, but my fren graduated from hamburg uni (mechanical eng.) just work in uitm 1 year but oredi got monthly 8k...but they took him as senior lecturer

earning >RM5K before 28 years old...
is it possible for a diploma holder to obtain it?
wat kind of job to reach its target easier for a diploma holder?

curious...

sales (earn commisions) ... most of my friends earn more than that

My friend just resigned from SHELL, to do a full sales job. 100% commission based, to sell property for UK, US and CANADA lands. Risky I would say bu it depends on your contacts and your work attitude also.

You guys will be surprised how much work attitude matters in the working world today than your measly Degree which can be bought any way. I am sure some of you have seen certificates illegally printed out, sold in Bangkok right? It's not like your employer would check your background, especially in a MNC.

Get a degree, get along with everyone, be helpful and always apply team-work. Share your ideas, however fancy it may be (but this depends on your boss open-mindedness). You will do great!

Im siting for SPM this year,after spm i decide to go for college. Either taking Account/Finance/marketing/business course. Which 1 should i take? Which is betteR? I have a dream of earning more than rm5k at the age of 25. Any people mind sharing me their experiance? So that i can follow ur foot steps !

TQ

learn to count your blessing folks.. you may be earning a wee bit lesser than you wish it would.. at times, when the durian do falls.. it can be a loud thud.

to some.. that journey is long.. to others, it's brief..

i'm pondering about this.. earning rm 5k... but how long can you keep such earnings.. how many years?

i'm referring to sustainable earnings.. would you prefer to earn rm 15k/mth but burned out on the 3rd year?

no dude, IT world is quite small in KL. trust me

if you're rich, ask your parents to send you to oversea to study, UK, US, Aus etc.
Many of my friend get booked by company even before they graduate.

small is ok.. but there're always pockets of niches in the i.t industry..
taking the sap path for example.. is one way to climb the salary ladder.