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 Best PSU For Overclocker V2, Which One Is The Best? ^^

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alive88
post Feb 13 2008, 09:44 PM

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ver 3.2 is the latest one..xixo got replacement for new psu after his st56f spoilt
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post Feb 14 2008, 01:01 PM

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i upload tis first.. at uni now.. forgot to bring ss (graph) tongue.gif
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post Feb 14 2008, 01:02 PM

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what is the old version?
and what is the different???

sorry not familiar with silverstone stuff
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post Feb 14 2008, 01:06 PM

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http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/559755/+200

got 4 pin n 8 pin together.. before this, they love to use converter
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post Feb 14 2008, 01:25 PM

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xixo..post ur everest lor
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post Feb 14 2008, 01:26 PM

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ya..ya.. later.. tak bawak itu gambar.. tgh kat uni.. later k..
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post Feb 14 2008, 01:28 PM

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eceh...menyalahgunakan uni's internet
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post Feb 14 2008, 05:12 PM

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this help a lot??? rolleyes.gif
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post Feb 14 2008, 05:46 PM

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this is mine..there u go..both ss..mine n xixo's....make ur own decision..both on OCed system..dont mind bout the temp..its on stock cooler

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post Feb 14 2008, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(alive88 @ Feb 14 2008, 05:46 PM)
this is mine..there u go..both ss..mine n xixo's....make ur own decision..both on OCed system..dont mind bout the temp..its on stock cooler
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thanks!!!!!!!!!
i think i will go with ST56F...
thanks so much...will try to learn more after dis.... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Feb 15 2008, 12:18 AM

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In case you guys don't know, plugging the same PSU on different boards would get you different readings smile.gif For example, if it does 5.25V @ 5V rail on mobo A, it doesn't necessarily give the same reading on mobo B.
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post Feb 15 2008, 02:15 AM

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yup..coz voltage drop usually because of the mobo...
@tech_frix..good psu usually wont go over the rated voltage..if 12v,should not exceed than that..overvoltage will occur..like st56f,it only over +0.02,so its good..its somthing called flickering and fluctuating..like odin,also good, coz not exceed and not droop..what u need to see is the stability,not the value *only..coz its depend on the board also..like in the review,the 12v rail never drop below 12..its about my mobo,and i know that my mobo is indeed suffer lots of voltdrop..correct me if im wrong notworthy.gif ..i make this assumption after ive read about psu and some review,plus my study about electric and electronic notworthy.gif

@phazell..thats a powerful yet silent pc p&c psu..how much u bought that?mind to share some screenies on an OCed system? icon_idea.gif

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post Feb 15 2008, 02:33 AM

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QUOTE(alive88 @ Feb 15 2008, 02:15 AM)
yup..coz voltage drop usually because of the mobo...
@tech_frix..good psu usually wont go over the rated voltage..if 12v,should not exceed than that..overvoltage will occur..like st56f,it only over +0.02,so its good..its somthing called flickering and fluctuating..like odin,also good, coz not exceed and not droop..what u need to see is the stability,not the value..coz its depend on the board also..like in the review,the 12v rail never drop below 12..its about my mobo,and i know that my mobo is indeed suffer lots of voltdrop..correct me if im wrong notworthy.gif ..i make this assumption after ive read about psu and some review,plus my study about electric and electronic notworthy.gif

@phazell..thats a powerful yet silent pc p&c psu..how much u bought that?mind to share some screenies on an OCed system? icon_idea.gif
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i try to catch up but still blur here...
so u mean dat we must look d rated voltage...and if it exceed d voltage stated, it is not OK...? rclxub.gif
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post Feb 15 2008, 02:36 AM

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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Feb 15 2008, 02:33 AM)
i try to catch up but still blur here...
so u mean dat we must look d rated voltage...and if it exceed d voltage stated, it is not OK...? rclxub.gif
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read the review provided previous page...voltage stability depends much on the board too..in the review,they rated the voltage direct from the psu,not from the board,thats why they can read the voltage rated well,and slightly no flactuates or flickers..but when it get inside the board,the reading gonna be different..juz my 2cent
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QUOTE(alive88 @ Feb 15 2008, 02:36 AM)
read the review provided previous page...voltage stability depends much on the board too..in the review,they rated the voltage direct from the psu,not from the board,thats why they can read the voltage rated well,and slightly no flactuates or flickers..but when it get inside the board,the reading gonna be different..juz my 2cent
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wow..thanks so much bro...
will start to read as many reviews as i can...
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post Feb 15 2008, 02:42 AM

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if ur planning for hardcore OC,go for st56f..but if u still consider for looks and style,while still want to OC hard(no core here) go for odin..

p/s:i oc hardcore wif this odin,no problemo..hehe..xixo too hardcore OCer,using st56f,no problemo.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(alive88 @ Feb 15 2008, 02:42 AM)
if ur planning for hardcore OC,go for st56f..but if u still consider for looks and style,while still want to OC hard(no core here) go for odin..

p/s:i oc hardcore wif this odin,no problemo..hehe..xixo too hardcore OCer,using st56f,no problemo.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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not too much edi..
if u have lebih2 just go to single rail.. i think the price not so expensive nowaday
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post Feb 15 2008, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Jan 30 2008, 07:10 PM)
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how is the performance at stress loads, bro? Whats the ESR or ripple for your PC Power n Cooling PSU?
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lol dont have the tools to stress load PSUs unless it can be done via software, or accurate ESR (whats that again?) / ripple ratings. but based from mobo software readings etc, the +3.3/+5/+12v ratings are around or under 1-2% readings and barely fluctuates *AT ALL*


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QUOTE(bata @ Feb 5 2008, 12:00 AM)
in the end we still look at the total ampere la rite  icon_question.gif
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single rails are more stable.

but as lohwenli explained multiple times before, quad rails are actually good, cept most manufacturers tend to cheat and produce "fake" quad rails resulting in sketchy performances especially from the cheap psu's (but it does save cost lol)


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QUOTE(CV6149 @ Feb 12 2008, 12:15 PM)
Just got my PC P&P Silencer 610w
love it and and its freaking silent!

single big fat rail biggrin.gif
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the pc p&C silencers are pretty ironic, they arent silent at all lol. silly small 80mm fans. the vast majority of psu in the market now are runnin on 120mm which is a LOT quieter than the PC P&C's.


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QUOTE(alive88 @ Feb 15 2008, 02:42 AM)
if ur planning for hardcore OC,go for st56f..but if u still consider for looks and style,while still want to OC hard(no core here) go for odin..

p/s:i oc hardcore wif this odin,no problemo..hehe..xixo too hardcore OCer,using st56f,no problemo.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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bro, get PCP&C for w.e reasons. rm500 for 610 watt PCP&C. unbelievable lol. even i cant believe it.

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Feb 15 2008, 11:57 AM)
lol dont have the tools to stress load PSUs unless it can be done via software, or accurate ESR (whats that again?) / ripple ratings. but based from mobo software readings etc, the +3.3/+5/+12v ratings are around or under 1-2% readings and barely fluctuates *AT ALL*


Added on February 15, 2008, 12:00 pm

single rails are more stable.

but as lohwenli explained multiple times before, quad rails are actually good, cept most manufacturers tend to cheat and produce "fake" quad rails resulting in sketchy performances especially from the cheap psu's (but it does save cost lol)


Added on February 15, 2008, 12:07 pm

the pc p&C silencers are pretty ironic, they arent silent at all lol. silly small 80mm fans. the vast majority of psu in the market now are runnin on 120mm which is a LOT quieter than the PC P&C's.


Added on February 15, 2008, 1:07 pm

bro, get PCP&C for w.e reasons. rm500 for 610 watt PCP&C. unbelievable lol. even i cant believe it.
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Personally, I don't trust voltage readings given by software since the monitoring chips of motherboards are not to say terribly accurate to begin with. Sure, they're good enough to warn you when the PSU is going south and voltages are flying all over the place, but if you want to compare between decent PSUs to see which is the best you're not going to get a consistent answer. To check how good is a PSU's voltages, a digital multimeter is needed.

ESR is equivalent series resistance, which is a capacitor spec, not a PSU spec. What you're talking about is ripple voltage, which are small, very fast fluctuations which can only be detected by using an osciloscope.

Actually, those fake 'multi-rail PSUs' are generally safer than single rail PSUs if the current limiters are properly done-the result will be that you will not be able to overload the PSU; doing so will cause the safety trip to go off. And both current limited 'multi-rail' PSUs and single rail PSUs have one weakness in common-if there is a massive fluctuation due to a rapidly changing load, all the lines will be affected. True multi-rail PSUs have each rail isolated from each other, so fluctuations on one line will not affect the others. Single rail PSUs have only one real advantage over multi-rail (whether true multi rail or current limited), that is you can load the single rail all the way to the limit before it trips. On multi-rail PSUs, overloading even a single rail will trip the PSU. But all said, loading a PSU to the limit is never a good idea, it greatly shortens the life of the PSU.

The PCP&C Silencer IS pretty quiet at low load, because very little heat is produced the fan doesn't need to spin much. But at heavy loads, then you're right-it really needs to be 'silenced' by a 120mm fan.

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