doubt it, id go for 600ish min. a little extra wattage wouldnt hurt either cuz you dont consume say 1000 watts if you have a 1000 watts psu, you only use what ur PC needs.

if ur psu is constantly on full load (eg: a 500w psu and ur using some 49x watts all the time) you risk overloading ur psu should there be sudden increment of power usage, or worse damaging ur parts.

of course, at the same time, buying a higher wattage psu also cost more, so you'll have to balance it out.

lohwenli: fan dead still want to use, cant blame him, or the product, for that matter

its rather loud, i compare it with my toughpower 750... silverstone fails horribly...

but, for a rm170 psu... its ok... im sick of replacing my cap ayam's (note the s) on my old computer... and ive gotten away all the time without it dragging my other components along. so not gonna risk it further, just get a decent good psu and settle for it, ive got a ton of important datas on my old comp anyways that im too lazy to transfer over to my new comp.

unnessesary loudness is though. i cant be 100% certain that my psu is adequately cooled since i dont have any thermal sensor equipped on it (AFAIK), but i definitely know that its not overheating cuz everytime i touches the outer case of the psu be it on 24/7 operations or even after OC stress test, i barely feel any bit of heat from it, the strider on the other hand i could feel a bit.

i think the main factor to the cooling/noise difference is due to the 14cm fan vs the ST's generic 12 cm fans.

overall, the tt toughpower may not be on par with the silverstones on reviews/actual performances etc, but with the pricing, much quieter operation, and the fact that it delivers what it should, is enough to make it a winner for me

stumbled across this:
http://www.jonnyguru.com/review_details.php?id=17&page_num=3



for the price... so totally worth it
while it looks blend, paired with my antec p180b, its the perfect match... perfect piano black glossy finish.

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Jul 24 2007, 01:28 AM

yes it is rare, you have no idea how much patience trouble i have to go through to get my toughpower lmao!!!
but its allll worth it ^^

as it stands i dont see CWT pushing through the tier 1 level, but they are good enough imo.

cant beat those 14cm fans <3

AFAIK all toughpower are CWT OEMs

and the only good/decent TT psus are the toughpower series, the rest are pretty much crappy (also mentioned on the review of the 750w tt toughpower by JG)

thats what i got and im LOVIN it

dont have to spend like rm600-800 ish for something that provides the same wattage eg: silverstone 750W's

theres modular and non-modular version

fan imho its very quiet but the sound is still audible
compared to silverstone though, thermaltake smokes it when it comes to fan noise ^^

woah heatpipe psu's?!

purposely buy that white psu and use its cables lolz!

i can imagine it already being very eye catchy, definitely worth a few pics and all...

but after few months.. worse, maybe weeks, or days... that "pure" white will become... how would you put it... violated? tainted?

wow, never seen a white pcb before... it looks... wierd o_O

but yeah definitely looks "smart" when you combine it with other parts

wow........


sudden white fetish?
dun poison us le haha

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off topic

shawty, my tt bt vx push pin koyak and contact is shitty, anyway to get a new retension bracket or push pin replacement?

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Aug 14 2007, 05:53 PM

okies ill try! thanks man

/sorry for OT

if you dont mind multi rail setup, tt toughpower 750 is a good choice. good on wallet too

first of all, whats ur budget?

and based on the criteria:
-ur gonna upgrade to quad proc and 8800gtx
-silent

i would personally recommend the thermaltake toughpower 750w. really quiet psu, cheap, and gets the job done. you may want tocheck out the new modded tough power series as well, theres also a 650w version. those have better intake airflow and chances are maybe even quieter as it is able to cool the psu better.

TT toughpower is around rm500, and warranty is either 3 or 5 years, forgotten.

hehe got myself a PC P&C silencer 750W, and omg its noisy

the toughpower is still by far the most quiet psu ive used, though seeing how im running my rig almost 24/7 non stop, i guess it couldnt take the abuse and eventually died (refer to my sales thread on the temporary OP650) though theres prolly other reasons on its failure, and it isnt a complete fail either, just bad voltage ratings that couldnt support my current PC but its able to run on my old p4 1.8ghz rig.

seeing that theres rarely any PC P&C users on LYN im tempted to do a review but im prolly too lazy for it XD
and its a total b**** to fit in my antec p180b despite numerous planning based on the dimension specifications from PC P&C site (its ~30mm longer than my TT TP750/OP650 that ive used previously)

comparison of the silencer vs the OP650 (bear in mind this is based on the lol-inaccurate mobo software/asus pc probe):

pricing: silencer is ~rm200 more expensive than the SS OP

fan noise: silencer is a lot more noisier than the SS OP, mainly due to the 80mm fan as opposed to the 120mm standards most psu are using nowdays, not to mention due to the fan size, the silencer produces a rather annoying buzzing sound. thankfully im on an acoustic casing and it doesnt affect me much, but whenever i open my side panel, its really really annoying.

voltage ratings: the silencer is about 5ish% closer to the voltage ratings compared to the op650, which means its almost near to no difference, to a normal user, this is basically insignificant.

packaging: the silencer's packaging is horrible compared to the OP650 lol... very crude and unattractive, and doesnt provide much form of protection inside (only some bubble wraps and cardboard placement) compared to the OP650 (foam around the psu and a very sturdy looking box)

external cosmetics: like the packaging, the outer appearence is also very crude (simple black painting) compared to the OP650

rushing for this post as im on my way to a work meeting, will post more whenever i could or even a review lol (prolly not gonna happen).

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killed wall o' text

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Nov 21 2007, 11:32 PM

my PC P&C cables are sleeved XD


btw guys, not sure if you guys facing this, and im not sure if its something to do with single rail PSU, cuz on my SS OP650, and my PC P&C silencer750, everytime i turn on my computer my bios will revert to default settings and prompting new cpu installed (lolwut) and it will just hang there, i gotta press the reset button and everything will be back to normal. its a little irritating though at times when you wanna just turn on the power button and go piss or do something else while waiting for everything to boot up and load into windows.

my mobo is a asus commando, not sure if this got anything to do with it as well. entire specs are in my signature.

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Added on November 25, 2007, 4:44 pmpower requirement in high end systems, and/or power ripples/fluctuations reductions when it comes to overclocking etc.
and most importantly stability and a peace of mind that high end PSU's are less likely to fail (dont get me wrong, everything has a chance to fail depending on usage/your luck, even high end rm2k psu's will also fail.)

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Nov 25 2007, 04:44 PM

any methods to prevent this? or it cannot be done due to oc'ing?