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post May 11 2018, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(Justin.Loong @ Jan 22 2018, 10:38 AM)
Don't forget the Modenas Elegan 250(based on Kymco 250i)  cool2.gif
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was in my plan b4 xmax... but my brother said quality is very doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

and deal breaker? no ABS even though there's ABS.

price rm 13k is temptintg
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post May 11 2018, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Mar 12 2018, 02:53 PM)
Tempting.. thinking selling off my Vespa and upgrade to this.. or just wait for BMW C 400 X .. hmmm
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c400 is also based on kymco like the c650 ?
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post May 11 2018, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(Justin.Loong @ May 11 2018, 11:25 AM)
Pergh!!  ohmy.gif  blink.gif  blush.gif  nod.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbsup.gif
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2 things - 1. it's very very very tall

2. there's no hook for teh tarik ikat tepi


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post May 11 2018, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ May 11 2018, 11:38 AM)
was in my plan b4 xmax... but my brother said quality is very  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif

and deal breaker? no ABS even though there's ABS.

price rm 13k is temptintg
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really? that elegan250 rebadged from kymco.
even kawasaki n bmw also rebadge from kymco.

or could be the parts is made locally?
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post May 11 2018, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(megahertz @ May 11 2018, 12:43 PM)
really? that elegan250 rebadged from kymco.
even kawasaki n bmw also rebadge from kymco.

or could be the parts is made locally?
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Fit n finish very lousy since modenas CKD them in malaysia

U can check out reviews also many say same thing

Deswai u no see many elegan250 on road even though its cheap for a 250cc maxi scooter
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post May 11 2018, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ May 11 2018, 11:39 AM)
c400 is also based on kymco like the c650 ?
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Not sure yet, but confirmed it made in the BMW factory in China Mainland....

Indication price arriving in Malaysia June/July 40k ...


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QUOTE(lucifah @ May 11 2018, 12:57 PM)
Fit n finish very lousy since modenas CKD them in malaysia

U can check out reviews also many say same thing

Deswai u no see many elegan250 on road even though its cheap for a 250cc maxi scooter
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not sure about that, got 1 friend use it and ride it to mae hong song. no complaints so far.
mybe just exterior issue. but reliability, i think should be ok.

and i see many elegan250 on the road btw. mybe we live diff area. haha
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btw, how so far ur xmax?
im using nmax. when compared, the seat height long like very high.
want to upgrade but seem like not good for cilok jammed area.
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post May 11 2018, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(megahertz @ May 11 2018, 02:55 PM)
not sure about that, got 1 friend use it and ride it to mae hong song. no complaints so far.
mybe just exterior issue. but reliability, i think should be ok.

and i see many elegan250 on the road btw. mybe we live diff area. haha
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oh, here not many

mechanically should be sound, because underneath it's kymco

just that the fit n finishing of the shrouds and other parts are really... doh.gif


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QUOTE(megahertz @ May 11 2018, 02:58 PM)
btw, how so far ur xmax?
im using nmax. when compared, the seat height long like very high.
want to upgrade but seem like not good for cilok jammed area.
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ya, very tall and wide

i have reduced the back end by 35mm, the front end by 20mm so i can finally flat foot one leg at traffic lights

as for cilok, i'm used to it since i have been using er6n in heavy traffic too, which is taller (but narrower) and heavier (by 30kg)

been using it for almost 9 days, i can say i am very satisfied

the underseat cargo is VERY VERY HUGE that i dont need to put any top box liao

the traction control really give you confidence during wet riding

heck the rear brake disc are larger than my er6n rear disc. LOL

the tall windshield, at first i thought was a hindrance, but is actually a good thing during night ride. u dont feel the cold air bashing at you

but i would definitely want to try a short windscreen later. not that expensive (rm100)

the only thing missing is a cargo hook for milo peng ikat tepi. haihs... cry.gif
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yea, im like the underseat storage too. my nmax just can put 1helmet n raincost.

the rear disk bigger mybe due scooter normally dont hv engine braking, thus require more braking power.

for me, i really need high windshield, if not. the wind can fell quite hard if crusing around 120kmj.

hv u try the top speed?
and can share the maintenance price?
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post May 12 2018, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(megahertz @ May 11 2018, 10:56 PM)
yea, im like the underseat storage too.  my nmax just can put 1helmet n raincost.

the rear disk bigger mybe due scooter normally dont hv engine braking, thus require more braking power.

for me, i really need high windshield, if not. the wind can fell quite hard if crusing around 120kmj.

hv u try the top speed?
and can share the maintenance price?
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LOL top speed no idea. not that curious. i got my 650cc machine for that and i never exceed national highway limit also

maintenance? also no idea. ppl share 1st svc is rm 120. cos u need to buy 2 x 1L oil, but u only need 1.5L. so 0.5L paid first for next service. rm40 @ bottle


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QUOTE(lucifah @ May 11 2018, 11:38 AM)
was in my plan b4 xmax... but my brother said quality is very  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif

and deal breaker? no ABS even though there's ABS.

price rm 13k is temptintg
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Yeah, unfortunately Modenas had to drop something from the spec sheet so the ABS wasn't included in order to meet the $13K price. cry.gif
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QUOTE(lucifah @ May 11 2018, 11:40 AM)
2 things - 1. it's very very very tall

2. there's no hook for teh tarik ikat tepi
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Unfortunately the XMax hasn't arrived to my local bike shop yet. When it does, I would like to sit and get a feel. See how tall it is. nod.gif

Hook no problem. Can always buy aftermarket CNC hook. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(lucifah @ May 11 2018, 04:38 PM)
ya, very tall and wide

i have reduced the back end by 35mm, the front end by 20mm so i can finally flat foot one leg at traffic lights

as for cilok, i'm used to it since i have been using er6n in heavy traffic too, which is taller (but narrower) and heavier (by 30kg)

been using it for almost 9 days, i can say i am very satisfied

the underseat cargo is VERY VERY HUGE that i dont need to put any top box liao

the traction control really give you confidence during wet riding

heck the rear brake disc are larger than my er6n rear disc. LOL

the tall windshield, at first i thought was a hindrance, but is actually a good thing during night ride. u dont feel the cold air bashing at you

but i would definitely want to try a short windscreen later. not that expensive (rm100)

the only thing missing is a cargo hook for milo peng ikat tepi. haihs...  cry.gif
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lucifah How did you reduce it? hmm.gif

Seriously nice scooter la! thumbup.gif thumbsup.gif
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post May 14 2018, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(Justin.Loong @ May 14 2018, 09:52 AM)
Yeah, unfortunately Modenas had to drop something from the spec sheet so the ABS wasn't included in order to meet the $13K price.  cry.gif
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not just modena, the same kymco model in indon also has no ABS, which many ppl complained

the thing is, the ABS is already there

the sensor, the abs rings and wiring all there... but no ABS

LOL. really wtf
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post May 14 2018, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(Justin.Loong @ May 14 2018, 09:54 AM)
Unfortunately the XMax hasn't arrived to my local bike shop yet. When it does, I would like to sit and get a feel. See how tall it is.  nod.gif

Hook no problem. Can always buy aftermarket CNC hook.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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i got fed up with my local shop here. they say expensive bike so need to pay first then order

last2 i say i pay booking (they wanted rm 5k), then ask bila sampai, then they pulak tak berani commit. say maybe end of may

damn, i call another shop (500km away in kuching), pay rm1k deposit, arrive 2 weeks later shipped to me, at cheaper price with free shiping

LOL
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post May 14 2018, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(Justin.Loong @ May 14 2018, 09:58 AM)
lucifah How did you reduce it?  hmm.gif

Seriously nice scooter la!  thumbup.gif  thumbsup.gif
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replace the 340mm stock absorber with 305mm absorber from NVX

the front fork is lowered by adjusting the triple clamps
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post May 14 2018, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ May 14 2018, 10:21 AM)
not just modena, the same kymco model in indon also has no ABS, which many ppl complained

the thing is, the ABS is already there

the sensor, the abs rings and wiring all there... but no ABS

LOL. really wtf
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WTF... bangwall.gif doh.gif
I feel you. cry.gif
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post May 14 2018, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ May 14 2018, 10:24 AM)
i got fed up with my local shop here. they say expensive bike so need to pay first then order

last2 i say i pay booking (they wanted rm 5k), then ask bila sampai, then they pulak tak berani commit. say maybe end of may

damn, i call another shop (500km away in kuching), pay rm1k deposit, arrive 2 weeks later shipped to me, at cheaper price with free shiping

LOL
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Yes, exactly the same in my LBS.
Require deposit but afraid to commit a date by giving excuse "depends on Hong Leong Yamaha". blink.gif doh.gif

Actually, the real reason why our LBS don't want to take NVX or X-MAX is because they (dealer) can't just buy that particular unit.
LBS must buy that particular unit packaged with other bikes which will include "sejuk models" as well. icon_question.gif

So if LBS want to sell NVX to customer, they must buy: NVX + Y15ZR / Lagenda 115 + Avantiz + FZ150i.
Or something like this combo.

This scenario is the same with all automotive players either cars or bikes. nod.gif sweat.gif

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