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lucifah
post May 9 2018, 10:38 AM

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post May 11 2018, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(eidrag @ Jan 15 2018, 04:44 PM)
RM25k for 250cc scooter is too expensive. Can compare with 150cc Nmax and point what's difference to justify RM15k differences?
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dun la compare with small scooter

maxi compare with maxi la

23k is cheap for a maxi scooter

compared to others like kawasaki J300 (30+k), Honda Forza 300 (30+k)

and their korean counterparts - kymco downtown (20+k) and sym cruisym (20+k)

kawasaki (and also bmw) use modified kymco scooter and still sell at premium prices

so 23k for a japanese manufacturer's scooter (100% made in indon) is berry reasonable

the time they announce it liao below 24k ayam ready


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post May 11 2018, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(eidrag @ Jan 15 2018, 06:18 PM)
Betcha lots of current scooter/kapcai rider that just want to commute everyday looking for 250cc upgrade for a bit more oomph, but don't want big bulk like sym/elegan 250
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also wrong. the cargo capacity is what most ppl (or at least myself) want

fast? as long as can cruise at highway speed ok liao


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post May 11 2018, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(Justin.Loong @ Jan 22 2018, 10:38 AM)
Don't forget the Modenas Elegan 250(based on Kymco 250i)  cool2.gif
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was in my plan b4 xmax... but my brother said quality is very doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

and deal breaker? no ABS even though there's ABS.

price rm 13k is temptintg
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post May 11 2018, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Mar 12 2018, 02:53 PM)
Tempting.. thinking selling off my Vespa and upgrade to this.. or just wait for BMW C 400 X .. hmmm
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c400 is also based on kymco like the c650 ?
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post May 11 2018, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(Justin.Loong @ May 11 2018, 11:25 AM)
Pergh!!  ohmy.gif  blink.gif  blush.gif  nod.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbsup.gif
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2 things - 1. it's very very very tall

2. there's no hook for teh tarik ikat tepi


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post May 11 2018, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(megahertz @ May 11 2018, 12:43 PM)
really? that elegan250 rebadged from kymco.
even kawasaki n bmw also rebadge from kymco.

or could be the parts is made locally?
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Fit n finish very lousy since modenas CKD them in malaysia

U can check out reviews also many say same thing

Deswai u no see many elegan250 on road even though its cheap for a 250cc maxi scooter
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post May 11 2018, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(megahertz @ May 11 2018, 02:55 PM)
not sure about that, got 1 friend use it and ride it to mae hong song. no complaints so far.
mybe just exterior issue. but reliability, i think should be ok.

and i see many elegan250 on the road btw. mybe we live diff area. haha
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oh, here not many

mechanically should be sound, because underneath it's kymco

just that the fit n finishing of the shrouds and other parts are really... doh.gif


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QUOTE(megahertz @ May 11 2018, 02:58 PM)
btw, how so far ur xmax?
im using nmax. when compared, the seat height long like very high.
want to upgrade but seem like not good for cilok jammed area.
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ya, very tall and wide

i have reduced the back end by 35mm, the front end by 20mm so i can finally flat foot one leg at traffic lights

as for cilok, i'm used to it since i have been using er6n in heavy traffic too, which is taller (but narrower) and heavier (by 30kg)

been using it for almost 9 days, i can say i am very satisfied

the underseat cargo is VERY VERY HUGE that i dont need to put any top box liao

the traction control really give you confidence during wet riding

heck the rear brake disc are larger than my er6n rear disc. LOL

the tall windshield, at first i thought was a hindrance, but is actually a good thing during night ride. u dont feel the cold air bashing at you

but i would definitely want to try a short windscreen later. not that expensive (rm100)

the only thing missing is a cargo hook for milo peng ikat tepi. haihs... cry.gif
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post May 12 2018, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(megahertz @ May 11 2018, 10:56 PM)
yea, im like the underseat storage too.  my nmax just can put 1helmet n raincost.

the rear disk bigger mybe due scooter normally dont hv engine braking, thus require more braking power.

for me, i really need high windshield, if not. the wind can fell quite hard if crusing around 120kmj.

hv u try the top speed?
and can share the maintenance price?
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LOL top speed no idea. not that curious. i got my 650cc machine for that and i never exceed national highway limit also

maintenance? also no idea. ppl share 1st svc is rm 120. cos u need to buy 2 x 1L oil, but u only need 1.5L. so 0.5L paid first for next service. rm40 @ bottle


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post May 14 2018, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(Justin.Loong @ May 14 2018, 09:52 AM)
Yeah, unfortunately Modenas had to drop something from the spec sheet so the ABS wasn't included in order to meet the $13K price.  cry.gif
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not just modena, the same kymco model in indon also has no ABS, which many ppl complained

the thing is, the ABS is already there

the sensor, the abs rings and wiring all there... but no ABS

LOL. really wtf
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post May 14 2018, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(Justin.Loong @ May 14 2018, 09:54 AM)
Unfortunately the XMax hasn't arrived to my local bike shop yet. When it does, I would like to sit and get a feel. See how tall it is.  nod.gif

Hook no problem. Can always buy aftermarket CNC hook.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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i got fed up with my local shop here. they say expensive bike so need to pay first then order

last2 i say i pay booking (they wanted rm 5k), then ask bila sampai, then they pulak tak berani commit. say maybe end of may

damn, i call another shop (500km away in kuching), pay rm1k deposit, arrive 2 weeks later shipped to me, at cheaper price with free shiping

LOL
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post May 14 2018, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(Justin.Loong @ May 14 2018, 09:58 AM)
lucifah How did you reduce it?  hmm.gif

Seriously nice scooter la!  thumbup.gif  thumbsup.gif
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replace the 340mm stock absorber with 305mm absorber from NVX

the front fork is lowered by adjusting the triple clamps
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post May 14 2018, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(megahertz @ May 14 2018, 11:58 AM)
i dont think so bro,
for those model without ABS, got few thing missing. which to simply the brake system.
there is no ABS rotor@pump, ECU might be diff unit  etc. and this make cheaper the cost  of the bike.

like nmax, indonesia got ABS n non-ABS model. here in malaysia, we only got the non-ABS model.
i found out the ECU for both model is diff and non-ABS dont hv the ABS rotor/pump.

the speed sensor is used by ECU, so regardless got ABS/non-ABS, it still needed.
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ah, yes. thats the hidden things we usually kenot see. but the abs ring and sensors are all there liao. LOL

but again, luckily they no hap ABS. or else i be riding a modenas now.
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post May 14 2018, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(megahertz @ May 14 2018, 01:55 PM)
yes, most people will say it ABS ring, but it actually speed sensor, which for speedometer use also.  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
in ABS, it need for ECU perform calculation( need accurate sensor for it and the ring sensor is pretty much accurate for checking the speed and tire locking up or skid) when it should trigger the ABS and it trigger the brake pulsation.

i think cheapest bike got ABS is pulsar rs200 rite ? or nvx ?
elegan250 already the cheapest 250 u can buy, if add ABS, the price will be more higher
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ah, that's true also, but i u checked modenas up close, both front and rear have the abs / speed sensor ring, which means that it will have dual abs
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post May 14 2018, 05:20 PM

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range until the first blinking2 fuel light

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342km not bad. all ridden in urban traffic
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post May 14 2018, 08:05 PM

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QUOTE(megahertz @ May 14 2018, 06:02 PM)
yup, mybe it did have ABS on kymco model.but scrap by modenas to reduce cost.
elegan250 is based on kymco exciting 200 if i remember correctly.

full tank 12Liter rite? or 13?
so can go up to 350KM

fc around 26-29km/L. which not bad for 250cc.

but i guess this 1 not yet 1st service rite?
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Full tank is 13L. To the first low fuel warning, there's about 2.5L reserve

I fill up to about 10.5L just now

So its about 10.5L / 340km = 32km/L in urban traffic. So kinda good. Time spent on the engine is about 12 hours (yes, it records the time lapsed)
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post May 15 2018, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(Justin.Loong @ May 15 2018, 10:30 AM)
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May I ask urban traffic which location lucifahhmm.gif
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sarawak lor...


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post Jul 15 2018, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(Perfect.Stranger @ Jul 15 2018, 09:10 PM)
sudah break in already or not?

need to know EO filter etc etc...

considering or Forza..

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Sudah. Cheap cheap la the maintenance.

Forza? Wait long long la... boon siew honda still trying to clear the old forza 300 stock doh.gif
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post Jul 15 2018, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Jun 24 2018, 02:20 PM)
Thai XMax is 300cc version.... hmm thinking if owned one Xmax Msia... ride to Thai.. get the 300cc kit and quietly crossed back to the border....

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Youd need the 300cc ECU too. The whole kit cost about rn3k

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