QUOTE(mdzamri @ Oct 11 2020, 12:27 PM)
interested to know this too.. seems very good but the price is also very goodGlass Coating vs Ceramic Coating, ETC
Glass Coating vs Ceramic Coating, ETC
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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ Sep 14 2020, 09:50 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « coatings are not useless. skeptics deem that it is because of all the false advertisements most shops put out (eg: wash car once every month only etc) and when these claims cannot live up (obviously since it is fake) then all the negatives come in. coatings are not invincible, like wax, they are made to add just an extra layer of protection on top of the existing clear coat, a more resistant sacrificial layer (if you will). the "scratch resistance, hydrophobic effect, glossy surfaces" are like french fries that comes with your burger. the idea is when something "bad" happens, you only need to remove that layer which was not "part" of your car - a feel good factor. while polishing is an effective way to restore your paint work but there's a limit to it before the clear coat is "wiped off"and it hits the actual paint work. at the end of the day, no matter what "stuffs" you put on your car paint, if you neglect it, it is bound to go straight to hell. i am a firm believer of good old elbow wax kinda person and i still do because they are cheap and they work BUT depending on the individual, some may not want to spend that extra effort on applying the wax once every 6 - 8 months and the surface prep prior to application is tedious (claying etc). I know it because i have been doing it for the past 4 years on my Accord. applying your own wax is made even more difficult if you are living in a stratified property because you cannot occupy the car wash bay for the entire day and deprive others of the usage. when i bought my new car, i decided to give coatings a try, paid RM2,100.00 for a 5 year warranty one and i am enjoying the convenience that it gives me at the moment. RM2,100.00 is a lot of money but if it realistically, it's just about RM1.00 daily. 1 st year the ceramic pro coating is in damm good shinning plus water repellent condition, just wash with car shampoo and the wipe it, all the dirty thing is just gone and shining as like just wax 2nd year, it start degrade even you wash the car as per recommend by them , water mark appear but still have some sort of water repellent affect. but glass portion, definitely no more water repellents effect so from 2nd year , you should do once a year coating maintenance which is free under warranty package . 3rd year on ward until the warranty period over, the coating effect will not last more then a year, maintenance should be go for third a year ( which is free as well)- edit new comment- water mark appear on roof after perform maintenance 2 month ago ( on third year) my suggestion, for those who are lazy to polish/ wash car, you may go for ceramic pro coating as their perform free maintenance during the warranty period. even you got car accident, after repaint they still free coating back for you. after coating or coating maintenance, you just need use shampoo wash and easily water repellent effect appear. The only disadvantage is that you need spend two or three day a year for booking to perform coating maintenance your car. For those who keep on saying ordinary polish/ wax will get the same affect. Yes , i agree, but it only last two to four week depend on your environment condition. AND you WILL NOT so damm hardworking every month go wax / polish your car ( perhaps for the 1st year of new car you will doing that another thing i need to emphasize, DUN BELIEVE about the stone chip prevention regardless of what kind of wrap or coating method! It will not help . unless you always drive 40-60 mph. conclusion, ceramic pro is not a permanent coating but their package is charge inclusive of yearly maintenance under warranty period . so if you have extra budget and is a lazy people like me for wax your car every month, go for it .DONNOT expect within the warranty period, you no need send back your car for perform coating maintenance . I have another will go for coating for next month, I will not go for ceramic coating for my another car, i plan to try opti coat as i heard ( hope) it did not need to perform yearly maintenance. Will let you guys know after few year coating the opti coat as I'm a guy like you all which look for opinion as well for the coating result, as most of them give their opinion within 1st year of coating which that not most of us want to hear as the coating is expensive like respray the car. Hope my true experience of ceramic pro coating can make you to decide. This post has been edited by kokseong23: Feb 10 2021, 08:13 PM |
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Feb 9 2021, 11:13 PM
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Done opti coat for a week plus, cannot tell you this product is better then other product as 1st year any product of coating should be in the perfect condition, it might only degrade after a year . will input comment after a year later.
base on experience on opti coat and ceramic pro during collection of car , the difference is ceramic pro given more "wet shining look" . water repellent parts is the same since it still new. 2 year above comment on ceramic pro you can see on my previous comment . first impression during car collection 1)convenient part - Opti coat win - as he go to your house collect car and send back to you after coating, no need hazel to call grab car two time 2)wet look shinning part - ceramic pro win 3) professional of handling - opti coat win - as is the boss it self ( perhaps together with worker ) done from A to Z, it provide more comprehensive or rather say more focus to make your car in perfect condition before coating As i still remember when i collect my car from ceramic pro , since i not free, i delay one day to collect, during collection, my car is park out side and lot dust appear on my car, i did complaint and the they said guaranty already coating go back spray water and the dust will out easily (- which is true after i do it at home). Just that i paid so much , even i delay a day to collect my car and you notice i will going to collect my car, as a business point of view, you should wash and deliver to me in shinning not dust look right? |
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kokseong23 how much did it cost u for opti coat and is the price only on external paintwork?
On ceramic maintenance, did you see what was done on the so called maintenance? product used? |
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QUOTE(kokseong23 @ Feb 9 2021, 11:13 PM) Done opti coat for a week plus, cannot tell you this product is better then other product as 1st year any product of coating should be in the perfect condition, it might only degrade after a year . will input comment after a year later. What's the price you paid for opti coat vs ceramic pro? Both are essentially ceramic coating just different name? Why didn't you go for PPF?base on experience on opti coat and ceramic pro during collection of car , the difference is ceramic pro given more "wet shining look" . water repellent parts is the same since it still new. 2 year above comment on ceramic pro you can see on my previous comment . first impression during car collection 1)convenient part - Opti coat win - as he go to your house collect car and send back to you after coating, no need hazel to call grab car two time 2)wet look shinning part - ceramic pro win 3) professional of handling - opti coat win - as is the boss it self ( perhaps together with worker ) done from A to Z, it provide more comprehensive or rather say more focus to make your car in perfect condition before coating As i still remember when i collect my car from ceramic pro , since i not free, i delay one day to collect, during collection, my car is park out side and lot dust appear on my car, i did complaint and the they said guaranty already coating go back spray water and the dust will out easily (- which is true after i do it at home). Just that i paid so much , even i delay a day to collect my car and you notice i will going to collect my car, as a business point of view, you should wash and deliver to me in shinning not dust look right? |
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Feb 10 2021, 07:44 PM
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QUOTE(abubin @ Feb 10 2021, 04:03 PM) What's the price you paid for opti coat vs ceramic pro? Both are essentially ceramic coating just different name? Why didn't you go for PPF? mine MPV car - ceramic pro gold package 4k Plus plus and sedan car- opti coat 2k Plus plus , but for sure opti caot is cheaper. different brand of ceramic coating contents might be different as i know some other brand it request you go maintainence for every half year even coating just been done .I not sure the ppf will be still water repellent after few year as i not done before . but it more expensive then ceramic coating. you may ask the ppl that been done for few year about the result. But one thing for sure, stone chip prevention is impossible as their claimed in advertisement as it u need drive 40-60mph Just wash my car that done maintenance with ceramic pro 2 month ago ( been coating for 2 year plus) , the water mark appear on roof of my car, the rest is still water repellent effect after perform the maintenance. SO i wonder is it only normal wax for the maintenance part? will update my review above on ceramic pro. it become not recommended or would like to say if insist go for it, just get the silver package will do, not package beyond that as it become useless . This post has been edited by kokseong23: Feb 10 2021, 08:16 PM |
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Feb 10 2021, 07:59 PM
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QUOTE(StevenL @ Feb 10 2021, 12:10 PM) kokseong23 how much did it cost u for opti coat and is the price only on external paintwork? opti coat sedan car cost me 2k plus plus and yes, external and internal door frame part only .there are two company do this product, one is under opti coat Malaysia dealership and another is working in home base but import the product from other country, I doing with the person that work in home base. U may google your and analyses self which one is better.On ceramic maintenance, did you see what was done on the so called maintenance? product used? perhaps you need to ask ppl around how the effect of opti coat after few year as i only done for two week, cannot comment how long last lasting of this product. i tried google , no people give opinion after few year in malaysia other then the advertisement . on other country, yes. it did have pro and con review. ceramic pro maintaince? i not sure as i put the car there and collect on the next day. it might be "remove water mark and wax only" - to be fair i guess saja as water mark appear on my roof after two moth maintenance . ( 2nd year maintenance dun have this kind of issue, it only happened on third year and mine is gold package b This post has been edited by kokseong23: Feb 10 2021, 08:08 PM |
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Feb 10 2021, 08:29 PM
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i just copy and paste their conversation and let you guy decide by you own.
original opti coat message , Opti-Coat Pro Plus Price is RM2XXX Package also comes with a full exterior surface preparation, scratch repair, cleaning, stain removal, brake dust particles removal, tar removal. Technically the surface should be contamination free when I'm done with the surface preparation Main difference would be the coating coverage area is full exterior except rubber areas like window lining and tyres. Windows/Glass are FOC hydrophobic coat. Warranty is 5 years for all cars across the board. Covers also any cracking, peeling, oxidation, yellowish, haziness, and in some rare cases of cheap coatings turning into a white powdery residue Original ceramic pro package ( i still keep all the conversation after few year..haha...... ceramic pro : The watermarks are formed due to contamination of rain waters if the car if left un-taken care (no regular car wash) and coating is not able to work as prevention. ME: I mean once a week car wash is it ok? as my partner using other product, but yet he need to wipe it immediately after raining which i think surf no purpose to apply ceramic pro : Ceramic Pro 9H is a *permanent* adhesion protective coating. Once Ceramic Pro 9H applied, it can only be removed by using polish machine. Ceramic Pro 9H is a ceramic based nanotechnology coating which *DOESN'T require maintenance* comparing to typical glass coating in the market which frequent maintenance due to short durability. Kindly watch the video below showing durability of Ceramic Pro 9H for years without maintenance: https://www.facebook.com/ceramicpromy/video...?type=2&theater In case if you suspect any degradation in coating performance, you may always send the car to us for inspection anytime at *ZERO COST* Some coating vendor would be introducing so called 'maintenance programme'. The definition of maintenance is to 'cover up' on the coating degradation after sometime with wax/sealant to prolong the water bead effect. Probably they would be offering 1 -2 times FREE Maintenance, however there would be additional cost for the subsequent maintenance interval which might be ranging from RM150 - RM300 per session. Example calculation : Maintenance 1st time : FOC Maintenance 2nd time : FOC Maintenance 3rd time : RM150 - RM300 Maintenance 4th time : RM150 - RM300 . . . . Maintenance X time (up to 5 years) : RM150 x 5 or 10 times = RM750 / RM1500 (additional hidden cost) |
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update on opti coat and ceramic pro product , been post at another lowyat forum since got a member ask, so i past at here also.
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ it been one year plus and im the lazy guy that dun like to wash my car every week, perhaps once a month? And the result till now is still water repellent condition ( bear in mind i parking place at work is hardcode situation which very hot as near the river without tree and yet is red soil road) . so if u really want to do coating. i recommend it. as Ceramic pro. after i complaint, they said "we" need to wash EVERY WEEK in order not to degrade the ceramic pro ( what answer is that, if in this case ,better i go for polish and wax every month also not that expensive), however, good for them as they recoating for me, i would like to say customer service is good but the product is not i want, it not per advertise which mean the coating cannot prolog for many year as it cannot sustain the acidic raining, that y they said need wash every week... i will do for my third car since the opti coat life span ( already one year plus ) is better then ceramic pro ( more then 2 year coating and within 2 year the result also poor then opti coat) . I hope it will not degrade after 2 nd year..lol... any ppl been done opti coat more then 2 year pls give some advise before i proceed. As for ceramic pro, again, not that all negative comment, if you have time to send your car 3 time a year( after coating 3 year) for maintenance and can wait for slot for maintenance ( as i wait for 3 month after call for appointment to slot in ), your car definitely is more shinning compare to opti coat. Or as told by their staff , if you still maintain wash your car every week start from the beginning of coating day ( which i only do it on 1st year) till the end of selling your car, may b you don;t need to send for maintenance .. and may i know who is washing the car everyweek after do the ceramic pro, does it really will not degrade the ceramic pro product ? ( even thought i know it not make sense as they claim is acidic prevention on their product, so why need to |
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