Sharp LC50UA6800X, Review
Sharp LC50UA6800X, Review
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Mar 2 2018, 05:04 AM
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Mar 2 2018, 07:39 AM
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hi all sifu, if compare Sharp 60UA6800X with Sony KD-55X8000E, which 1 is better? (PQ, good in motion and android performance - no lag, good in TV player)
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Mar 2 2018, 10:46 AM
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QUOTE(kskoay @ Mar 2 2018, 07:39 AM) hi all sifu, if compare Sharp 60UA6800X with Sony KD-55X8000E, which 1 is better? (PQ, good in motion and android performance - no lag, good in TV player) No comments on PQ but motion will be better on the Sony.thank you Android on Sony TVs are well known for being buggy & laggy. I would expect it to be the same ona the Sharp. But there are some workarounds to improve performance for Android TV just need to google it. |
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Mar 2 2018, 11:27 AM
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QUOTE(VentureLKW @ Feb 28 2018, 03:55 PM) QUOTE(sonic_darkknight @ Mar 1 2018, 12:03 PM) I believe it's 60hz. Btw, I just officially became an owner of lc60ua6800x yesterday evening. Just got my TV yesterday. Last day for the cctv promotion... Kekeke from below articles, it is more likely 120hz.alto the claim may be 240 or even 480. QUOTE Sharp: AquoMotion Sharp gets multiple bonus points here for listing the "AquoMotion" rate, and the panel's native refresh and clearly describes how it works: "AquoMotion, Sharp's backlight scanning technology, multiplies the effective refresh rate to hit you with all the power that fast-moving sports and movies can deliver." Most of its 4K models are 120Hz natively, whereas some of the smaller and less expensive models are 60Hz. https://www.cnet.com/news/ultra-hd-4k-tv-refresh-rates/ Sharp AquoMotion "AquoMotion 960, Sharp's backlight scanning technology, quadruples the effective refresh rate to hit you with all the power that fast-moving sports and movies can deliver." Even I can do that math 960/4=purple. No wait, 240. That's for its 8 series. For the 7 series: "AquoMotion 480, Sharp's backlight scanning technology, doubles the effective refresh rate..." The company is also, ahem, refreshingly honest in its tech specs section: Refresh panel rate: 240Hz Refresh scanning rate: AquoMotion 960 and Refresh panel rate: 240Hz Refresh scanning rate: AquoMotion 480 https://www.cnet.com/news/fake-refresh-rate...v-really-120hz/ |
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Mar 2 2018, 03:02 PM
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Hi all,
Been considering this sharp model (6800) too. Latest price is RM 4350 - Home Living Exhibition - Sharp booth, the sales person also mention it comes with 5 year of W........FOC delivery. This is just me casually asking without bargain or nego......... This post has been edited by Student111: Mar 2 2018, 03:02 PM |
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Mar 2 2018, 03:07 PM
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Mar 2 2018, 11:27 AM) That article is related to 2015 models, not sure if its still applicable to the current breed of 4k tvs. Back then 4k tvs were considered premium and sold at a high price.I remember the Taiwan article about this tv saying the motion is poor due to low panel refresh rate, but don't think it mentioned the hz. |
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Mar 2 2018, 03:38 PM
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QUOTE(Student111 @ Mar 2 2018, 03:02 PM) Hi all, Wah......rugi some more....haih. Bought at much higher price at Senheng. Been considering this sharp model (6800) too. Latest price is RM 4350 - Home Living Exhibition - Sharp booth, the sales person also mention it comes with 5 year of W........FOC delivery. This is just me casually asking without bargain or nego......... QUOTE(jdgobio @ Mar 2 2018, 03:07 PM) That article is related to 2015 models, not sure if its still applicable to the current breed of 4k tvs. Back then 4k tvs were considered premium and sold at a high price. Yes, I read a taiwan website article too comparing 6800T with Sony x8500e. The article mentioned that 6800x lost to x8500e in terms of screen resolution for not supporting 120Hz. So indirectly, I believe it is trying to say that 6800x only support 60HzI remember the Taiwan article about this tv saying the motion is poor due to low panel refresh rate, but don't think it mentioned the hz. |
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Mar 2 2018, 04:42 PM
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Mar 2 2018, 05:03 PM
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Mar 2 2018, 10:49 PM
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Mar 4 2018, 05:05 PM
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Just sharing... should work same for ua6800x.
QUOTE(AVFAN @ Oct 19 2017, 12:21 PM) ue630x owners using Astrogo, a tip for you. Re above, latest astrogo version 8.1.93 also dun work on the ue630x.Astrogo latest version 8.1.68 does NOT work. i tried several versions, and found only one will work at this time - 8.0.4.2. other requirements: .. the default leanback keyboard of the androidtv is NOT compatible with Astrogo. so, u need to go to playstore, install the google INDIC keyboard, activate and set it as default. .. the app in default is in portrait, need to install from playstore one of those "orientation" apps to rotate 90 deg, make it landscape. .. remote controls will not work, need mouse to click-hold-drag to navigate. Keep using 8.0.4.2, still good. What has changed... astrogo has improved on picture quality, most are now hd... at long last. Do try it. Will be very handy come world cup 2018 in june... astro has monopoly. Take note astrogo does NOT work in many boxes... but works on tv's n devices running on androidtv. |
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Mar 5 2018, 12:44 PM
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Does anyone know if this tv is using a 10bit panel which support wide color gamut for HDR? And does this tv have good response time for ps4 console gaming?
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Mar 6 2018, 01:56 PM
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QUOTE(kevinboey86 @ Mar 5 2018, 12:44 PM) Does anyone know if this tv is using a 10bit panel which support wide color gamut for HDR? And does this tv have good response time for ps4 console gaming? During the Home Living Exhibition, the promoter from Sharp told me it supports HDR 10bit. Hope that he telling the truth can support 10bit, not 8bit.Thank you. |
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Mar 6 2018, 02:04 PM
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QUOTE(kevinboey86 @ Mar 5 2018, 12:44 PM) Does anyone know if this tv is using a 10bit panel which support wide color gamut for HDR? And does this tv have good response time for ps4 console gaming? Sharp never claimed this TV support Wide Colour Gamut(WCG) but they keep advertising it supporting a "wider colour range/gamut". Marketing terms at its best to confuse public. While it is true it does produce a richer colour gamut than some of its competitor in its own class with its "Rich Colour" technology, the TV still does not fulfill the WCG colour range specification.Thank you. QUOTE(VentureLKW @ Mar 6 2018, 01:56 PM) During the Home Living Exhibition, the promoter from Sharp told me it supports HDR 10bit. Hope that he telling the truth can support 10bit, not 8bit. It does support HDR10 but it is a 8bit panel like most entry level 4K tv. Manufacturers make the 8bit panel to accept and produce 10bit colour processing.This post has been edited by sonic_darkknight: Mar 6 2018, 02:05 PM |
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Mar 6 2018, 06:57 PM
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QUOTE(sonic_darkknight @ Mar 6 2018, 02:04 PM) Sharp never claimed this TV support Wide Colour Gamut(WCG) but they keep advertising it supporting a "wider colour range/gamut". Marketing terms at its best to confuse public. While it is true it does produce a richer colour gamut than some of its competitor in its own class with its "Rich Colour" technology, the TV still does not fulfill the WCG colour range specification. Sharp is very evasive and secretive in providing product details. Plus the fact that there are no proper reviews to be found (in part due to the model numbering) makes it very difficult to understand what we are getting.It does support HDR10 but it is a 8bit panel like most entry level 4K tv. Manufacturers make the 8bit panel to accept and produce 10bit colour processing. Its best to assume the worst and make a decision whether its worth it for you. Panel native refresh rate: 50/60hz WCG: Assume not available since there is nothing indicating DCI P3 & REC.2020 coverage Panel colour depth: 8 bits with minimal HDR Brightness: 300 - 350 nits (not a good HDR tv) Yes 8bit panels can also support HDR. And there are also 10bit panels that are rubbish for HDR. So its not a sure thing that 10bits will give you good HDR because colour palette coverage, tone mapping, brightness, etc are important too. Sometimes 8bits + FRC is already good enough if done properly. All that being said, I liked what I saw for both the 6800X & 6500X and I think its very decent for the (promo) price + extended warranty. Its well worth it if one is not very fussy about what they are getting. |
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Mar 6 2018, 11:58 PM
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QUOTE(jdgobio @ Mar 6 2018, 06:57 PM) Sharp is very evasive and secretive in providing product details. Plus the fact that there are no proper reviews to be found (in part due to the model numbering) makes it very difficult to understand what we are getting. This is getting to a very informative and interesting discussion, especially for me who is considering the 6800 model. In your opinion, which other model from others manufacturer is superior to 6800 in this price range? Sony 8000E...panasonic or samsung and why? I hope you dont mind to share your opinion.Its best to assume the worst and make a decision whether its worth it for you. Panel native refresh rate: 50/60hz WCG: Assume not available since there is nothing indicating DCI P3 & REC.2020 coverage Panel colour depth: 8 bits with minimal HDR Brightness: 300 - 350 nits (not a good HDR tv) Yes 8bit panels can also support HDR. And there are also 10bit panels that are rubbish for HDR. So its not a sure thing that 10bits will give you good HDR because colour palette coverage, tone mapping, brightness, etc are important too. Sometimes 8bits + FRC is already good enough if done properly. All that being said, I liked what I saw for both the 6800X & 6500X and I think its very decent for the (promo) price + extended warranty. Its well worth it if one is not very fussy about what they are getting. |
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Mar 7 2018, 09:13 AM
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QUOTE(VentureLKW @ Mar 6 2018, 01:56 PM) During the Home Living Exhibition, the promoter from Sharp told me it supports HDR 10bit. Hope that he telling the truth can support 10bit, not 8bit. QUOTE(sonic_darkknight @ Mar 6 2018, 02:04 PM) Sharp never claimed this TV support Wide Colour Gamut(WCG) but they keep advertising it supporting a "wider colour range/gamut". Marketing terms at its best to confuse public. While it is true it does produce a richer colour gamut than some of its competitor in its own class with its "Rich Colour" technology, the TV still does not fulfill the WCG colour range specification. It does support HDR10 but it is a 8bit panel like most entry level 4K tv. Manufacturers make the 8bit panel to accept and produce 10bit colour processing. QUOTE(jdgobio @ Mar 6 2018, 06:57 PM) Sharp is very evasive and secretive in providing product details. Plus the fact that there are no proper reviews to be found (in part due to the model numbering) makes it very difficult to understand what we are getting. Thanks for the reply guys. Yea i do notice a lot of brands use the terms support for HDR. But are they using 8 bit panel or 10 bit panel is another question. I find it difficult to differenciate base on the model number which is the entry, mid and higher range for sharp 4k tv range. I am hoping that it has a low input lag for gaming as well.Its best to assume the worst and make a decision whether its worth it for you. Panel native refresh rate: 50/60hz WCG: Assume not available since there is nothing indicating DCI P3 & REC.2020 coverage Panel colour depth: 8 bits with minimal HDR Brightness: 300 - 350 nits (not a good HDR tv) Yes 8bit panels can also support HDR. And there are also 10bit panels that are rubbish for HDR. So its not a sure thing that 10bits will give you good HDR because colour palette coverage, tone mapping, brightness, etc are important too. Sometimes 8bits + FRC is already good enough if done properly. All that being said, I liked what I saw for both the 6800X & 6500X and I think its very decent for the (promo) price + extended warranty. Its well worth it if one is not very fussy about what they are getting. The tv is currently on sale on 11street for rm2767 for LC50UA6800X model which i feel is quite good. This post has been edited by kevinboey86: Mar 7 2018, 09:15 AM |
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QUOTE(sonic_darkknight @ Mar 2 2018, 03:38 PM) Wah......rugi some more....haih. Bought at much higher price at Senheng. not too bad considering that you get the smart home starter kit (11street selling 1k+) and keyboard/mouse set for free.QUOTE(jdgobio @ Mar 6 2018, 06:57 PM) Sharp is very evasive and secretive in providing product details. Plus the fact that there are no proper reviews to be found (in part due to the model numbering) makes it very difficult to understand what we are getting. it's a 8bit UV2A panel, with 10bit color processing technology (based on taiwan online store description). Its best to assume the worst and make a decision whether its worth it for you. Panel native refresh rate: 50/60hz WCG: Assume not available since there is nothing indicating DCI P3 & REC.2020 coverage Panel colour depth: 8 bits with minimal HDR Brightness: 300 - 350 nits (not a good HDR tv) Yes 8bit panels can also support HDR. And there are also 10bit panels that are rubbish for HDR. So its not a sure thing that 10bits will give you good HDR because colour palette coverage, tone mapping, brightness, etc are important too. Sometimes 8bits + FRC is already good enough if done properly. All that being said, I liked what I saw for both the 6800X & 6500X and I think its very decent for the (promo) price + extended warranty. Its well worth it if one is not very fussy about what they are getting. being said that, 8bit 60hz panel with around 300nits brightness is normal for tv around this price range. even sony x8000e that cost higher carry the same spec. only different is sony or other brand carry motion enhancer technology (eg. Motionflow but native is still 60hz), this piece of info is missing on this sharp. QUOTE(kevinboey86 @ Mar 7 2018, 09:13 AM) Thanks for the reply guys. Yea i do notice a lot of brands use the terms support for HDR. But are they using 8 bit panel or 10 bit panel is another question. I find it difficult to differenciate base on the model number which is the entry, mid and higher range for sharp 4k tv range. I am hoping that it has a low input lag for gaming as well. the 50 inch is using a different panel, no information other than it's not made in japanThe tv is currently on sale on 11street for rm2767 for LC50UA6800X model which i feel is quite good. This post has been edited by teNtiOn: Mar 7 2018, 10:45 AM |
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Mar 8 2018, 09:10 AM
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QUOTE(jdgobio @ Mar 6 2018, 06:57 PM) Sharp is very evasive and secretive in providing product details. Plus the fact that there are no proper reviews to be found (in part due to the model numbering) makes it very difficult to understand what we are getting. Its best to assume the worst and make a decision whether its worth it for you. Panel native refresh rate: 50/60hz WCG: Assume not available since there is nothing indicating DCI P3 & REC.2020 coverage Panel colour depth: 8 bits with minimal HDR Brightness: 300 - 350 nits (not a good HDR tv) Yes 8bit panels can also support HDR. And there are also 10bit panels that are rubbish for HDR. So its not a sure thing that 10bits will give you good HDR because colour palette coverage, tone mapping, brightness, etc are important too. Sometimes 8bits + FRC is already good enough if done properly. All that being said, I liked what I saw for both the 6800X & 6500X and I think its very decent for the (promo) price + extended warranty. Its well worth it if one is not very fussy about what they are getting. QUOTE(teNtiOn @ Mar 7 2018, 10:05 AM) not too bad considering that you get the smart home starter kit (11street selling 1k+) and keyboard/mouse set for free. May i know how do you guys know its panel can only output 300nits?it's a 8bit UV2A panel, with 10bit color processing technology (based on taiwan online store description). being said that, 8bit 60hz panel with around 300nits brightness is normal for tv around this price range. even sony x8000e that cost higher carry the same spec. only different is sony or other brand carry motion enhancer technology (eg. Motionflow but native is still 60hz), this piece of info is missing on this sharp. the 50 inch is using a different panel, no information other than it's not made in japan |
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Mar 8 2018, 11:26 AM
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QUOTE(sonic_darkknight @ Mar 8 2018, 09:10 AM) Its an assumption due to the fact that there is no information on this. So I took the worst case by using a common brightness among low end tvs. It could possibly go higher but since Sharp did not think it is important enough to disclose, then it must be something in the ballpark of 300 nits. |
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