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 I'm undecide! Waja n Satria GTi!, Which 1 will u choose?

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post Apr 26 2007, 10:40 AM

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Get a Waja.

GTi already an obsolete model, you're going to have nightmares when you're selling it off next time. With 35,000 I think you can get a Mitsu Waja (more power compared to campro) year 2004, which has minimal problems compared to the earlier batches.
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post Apr 26 2007, 10:41 AM

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post Apr 26 2007, 10:46 AM

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I choose Waja. Bcos it's more comfortable driving and it got 4 doors.
Good if u thinking long terms as others already suggested.
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post Apr 26 2007, 11:43 AM

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Choose Waja ler. For racing, i choose Burnout 3 - XBOX and Gran Turismo 4 - PS2....lol.

2nd hand GTi...prev owner sure kena engine kaw-kaw already...maintenance will kill yer later.
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post Apr 26 2007, 11:48 AM

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post Apr 26 2007, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(ltw82 @ Apr 26 2007, 10:14 AM)
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1.8cc can also look for putra what...?
putra is as fast as satia gti... not so crampy either...
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You rite.. putra first generation 1.8 engine and GTi second. People said 1st more power.. sorry, me myself never tried lar.. but handling definetely GTi win.
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QUOTE(vickyrao @ Apr 26 2007, 09:40 AM)
im a waja campro user....go for waja....i wanted to buy satria neo but after test driving both cars...i decided on waja.....cause when u drive waja...u feel its solid...and well i just had an accident...and i was suprised.....then impact was so bad...but the damage was minor....

i think if a satria it would have been a total lost...

try visiting our team imperials website to find out more about waja....

www.team-imperials.drives.it

waja would be a good choice...seriously....you would be surprise about the under powered...obviously u cannot compare it to satria gti as the difference in CC and GTI model is completely not comparable...

1.8 vs 1.6
GTI vs stock...
u get my point la....

go for WAJA...
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post Apr 26 2007, 12:30 PM

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It's probably sensible to choose a 4-door sedan over a 2-door hatch. I think you'll welcome the extra 2 doors when you get passengers. Later you can upgrade the engine, fit a turbo, get a manual gearbox, racing shocks, Brembo and voila! Wajavo IX.
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post Apr 26 2007, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(DaViDcHiN @ Apr 26 2007, 05:36 AM)
I'm planning to buy a second hand car, Satria GTi n Waja, Priced range at RM35000...

Satria GTi(2000-2001),
Reason I wanna buy this car:
-I like racing(Just take it, don't comment, coz I hav no money to buy Evo9)
-I like it's exterior, stylish.
Reasons that stoped me from buying this car:
- 6-7years car ad, very old.
-1.8cc, high road tax n insurance
-Doesn't suit me, becoz I'm quite big in body size, sitting inside GTi make the car looks very small.

Waja (2003-2004) NOT CAMPRO ENGINE and manual 1,
Reason I wanna buy this car:
-It's exterior is not as nice as GTi(for me), but its interior is way better than GTi.
-Spacious n big which suit me
-Newer compare to GTi at the same price range.
Reasons that stoped me from buying this car:
-Underpowered, can't race, or u can say yes when i transplant to Mivec engine, but transplant engine no need money meh?
-Thinking to modisfy it, again, no need money meh?

If u r me, which 1 will u choose? Y?
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I prefer neither.

Since you have a budget of RM35k, why don't you top up a bit and buy a new Satria Neo.

Reasons:

a. New car (virgin) - you are the 1st owner so it's never a headache to remember its past history.

b. Easier financing - it's a new car, you can get easier financial assistance even up to 9 years loan repayment (lol, bad idea).

c. A stock silver satria neo really beats any gti in terms of physical look and handling(needs citation). You can upgrade the engine performance later on if the budget permits.

I myself drive a boring small toyota sedan since I require a good everyday car. Well if i have more money to own a second car for weekend drive, I definitely buy a satria neo tongue.gif

Okay, drop any of my ideas if you think your budget is too limited.

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post Apr 26 2007, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(azxel @ Apr 26 2007, 08:34 AM)
Waja because the Satria is a 2-door and 2-doors have bad resale value.
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if i'm not mistaken WAJA, Tiara and Juara has the worst value in proton...
WAJA bought in 2005-6 for 60k now onli can sell for 35-40k or even lesser...
usually its hard to look for GTi at Second hand car shop... GTi is good in demand...



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post Apr 26 2007, 01:08 PM

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Go for Satria GTi...more powerful & ,sportier than Waja
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post Apr 26 2007, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(ltw82 @ Apr 26 2007, 10:14 AM)
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1.8cc can also look for putra what...?
putra is as fast as satia gti... not so crampy either...
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dun la bring putra into the picture....

putra FTW
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post Apr 26 2007, 01:23 PM

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my vote goes to GTI for sure..

dun give any reason like 2 doors or 4 doors.. its so lame...

when i bought my putra.. this is wat my parents says ... its a 2 door car... in future .. u will regret...

my reply was .. u think i gonna drive 1 car for like 10 years?? if after few years i still cant afford another one.. then im a total loser .. :-P

the main point is .. if u arent fetching ur family always .. get the GTI .. dun worry about ur frens... YOU buy a car that u want and like .. not for the convineint of ur frens to hop in and out .. if the wanna car pool ur GTI .. dont complaint thats a 2 doors ... else get a taxi or bus .. tat is wat i tell my frens .. hahaha
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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Apr 26 2007, 05:51 AM)
i will take gti lor coz the design is nicer than waja for my opinion...
n i also heard from many ppl tht waja got a lot of problems...
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Waja problem? Erm, can state a bit? icon_question.gif
One of the cmmon problem is the window, it is very common in Proton cars.. tongue.gif
But does dat means GTi doesn't have such problem, because it is a Proton too...-.-"

QUOTE(FlamingFox @ Apr 26 2007, 05:54 AM)
Hmm are you single or have your own family already?

If single, probably GTi coz u'll be able to go fast.

If got family, then Waja coz it's spacious, very comfortable.
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Single loh, studying, drive it to school everyday, fetch people once in a blue moon when gathering with frens.

QUOTE(INFeRNO @ Apr 26 2007, 06:05 AM)
I'd go with the Waja. At the end of the day, you'll be spending most of your time in KL traffic anyways, so go for the one that'll make you feel more comfortable.
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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Apr 26 2007, 06:55 AM)
satrio GTI vs Waja  = Savvy vs Myvi = Performance vs Comfort
both of them was different classes, quite difficult to decide...

i go for waja, at least it upgrade-able from stock to performance part later... if satria , it not upgrade-able from 2 door to 4 door... but tat car is ur ride only and wont fetch much ppl by using it and use it on race track (dont speeding on usual road sweat.gif ), go to satria gti...
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It may take years for me to modify the waja... sad.gif

QUOTE(SYAMiLLiON @ Apr 26 2007, 06:58 AM)
i also agree wif FlamingFox...if u are single,go for GTi...otherwise u should take waja insteed...
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Mmm.. I am thinking about it smile.gif hmm.gif

QUOTE(rooonie @ Apr 26 2007, 08:11 AM)
Gti got a better body compare to normal satria... the stuff is much more better..
from all my fren who drive WAJA said it has the worst spare part and the quality is worst... even some wira spare parts is better den WAJA (a spare part dealer say it to me)...

for me i will not think twice... my choice is GTi!!!
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Do u have any proves?, Which spare part is worst? hmm.gif I'm buying the 03/4 Waja, heard dat a lot of problems r fixed in this batch...

QUOTE(thom_chai @ Apr 26 2007, 08:20 AM)
I've driven both. I'll pick GTi anytime. Reason? It's just simply too fantastic to be driven.
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Yeah, fantastic, Me too..


QUOTE(azxel @ Apr 26 2007, 08:34 AM)
Waja because the Satria is a 2-door and 2-doors have bad resale value.
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Buying 2nd hand car, resale value won't drop like new car lah... blush.gif

QUOTE(singchaii @ Apr 26 2007, 08:37 AM)
For me, I will get Waja lor.. Cause it more spacious and comfortable.. GTi, I believe the ex owner sure force the engine use kaw kaw already.. Furthermore, waja road tax will be cheaper.. And what I suggest, why don't you try find other 2nd car beside Proton? RM35k you can get other 2nd car beside Proton. Buying 2nd Proton, you might regret.
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Mmm...why many people anti-proton one, includng mysefl..lol... but wat to do? NO $$$...


QUOTE(daddyVW @ Apr 26 2007, 08:43 AM)
I like GTi but after using my head i will pick waja. Reason:
1. Waja spacious
2. GTi - hot target for car thief
3. GTi - 2 door (low resale value)
4. Waja power enough for as cannot speed too much also due to free ticket waiting.. highway also max 110 to 120 only maa..
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Yes, I know GTi is a hot target for car thief, but this is not a problem, I will find park my car inside my house...haha...

2 doors car, low value, yes, I'm buying second hand GTi becoz it's value is already low... biggrin.gif

Not about the max speed in highway, it is about the power, sometimes i might need to rush to school, worrying that Waja won't satisfy me...


QUOTE(jy14 @ Apr 26 2007, 08:54 AM)
For me, it's better to get the GTI coz u'll get better fuel milage even if u don't race. Bsides, the power is there whenever u need it. Aren't like the Waja, u'll need to modify when u need the extra power.

Waja also well known for it's prone to problems. Better check which version it is b4 deciding.

Although u might feel the GTI is small, but when u sit inside, u might feel differently about the space. Its similar to a Wira, but with smaller back seats only. As long as the GTI is accident free and has low milage, should b alrite coz the engine is a good unit while the rest of it should b of certain standards compared to a fully-designed local car.

Mayb u'll need some time to get used to the semi-bucket seats of the GTI but when u do, u'll never go back to normal seats. thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif

So, for me, it's the GTI thumbup.gif
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Mmm... I am totally agree with u...lol...

QUOTE(kcng @ Apr 26 2007, 08:59 AM)
you want to race ?
u just answer yourself right ?

gti can "race" better then a waja...

waja is a family sedan.... and its only 1.6cc compared to the GTi which is a 1.8cc

and if u are into racing, please dont complain about the high FC, roadtax and insurance... its part of the game
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The fc is ok, it has not much difference compare to Waja 1.6cc...

I am not complaining, just te cons of buying GTi...


QUOTE(hoisum87 @ Apr 26 2007, 09:02 AM)
haha.. is depend whether u have family or not.. or u r a full time fetch ppl or not..=) if i were u, of course gti, waja market value is so low, at least gti is still rare due to stop production =)
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I'm single, GTi oso can fetch people mah....


QUOTE(stormchaser @ Apr 26 2007, 09:32 AM)
i would say waja...

reason, pay a same amount, but u 'll get a newer car and more spacious.  In term of comfort i think waja also win... power and speed waja loose lar... if u are those racer then gti lor, but u are those responsible driver, waja also quite good.. most of my colleague also drive waja.......
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That is y i am consdering Waja loh...

QUOTE(moon* @ Apr 26 2007, 09:37 AM)
jst do remember where u park ur GTI if u attend to buy it. be very very careful with it..

mine was park right infront of my hse. had it only for 1 week n it was stolen, nvr to be seen again..  cry.gif
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Sorry to hear about it, I wll be very careful!

QUOTE(RoxyMunky @ Apr 26 2007, 09:39 AM)
go for waja if u want comfort...... and satria if you wants the adrenaline rush... icon_rolleyes.gif
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-.-" easy conclusion but hard choice...

QUOTE(vickyrao @ Apr 26 2007, 09:40 AM)
im a waja campro user....go for waja....i wanted to buy satria neo but after test driving both cars...i decided on waja.....cause when u drive waja...u feel its solid...and well i just had an accident...and i was suprised.....then impact was so bad...but the damage was minor....

i think if a satria it would have been a total lost...

try visiting our team imperials website to find out more about waja....

www.team-imperials.drives.it

waja would be a good choice...seriously....you would be surprise about the under powered...obviously u cannot compare it to satria gti as the difference in CC and GTI model is completely not comparable...

1.8 vs 1.6
GTI vs stock...
u get my point la....

go for WAJA...
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I anti-campro 1, blush.gif that's y I say I'm buying 03/04 when Waja is still using mitsu engine...lol...

"you would be surprise about the under powered"...erm...r u telling that waja is really very underpowered?

QUOTE(ltw82 @ Apr 26 2007, 10:14 AM)
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1.8cc can also look for putra what...?
putra is as fast as satia gti... not so crampy either...
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My bro own a putra, anyway, GTi looks nicer...haha...


QUOTE(Kanewong @ Apr 26 2007, 10:19 AM)
i think for ur long term consideration, waja is the better choice for u, since  is more new n value if compare to gti, n is more on future thinking for u....
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Mmm...I am not sure how long will I be sitting in this car, If the time is right, for sure I'll change it, but 2nd hand proton car, I think 7 years is anough loh...anyway, I won't be marrying that soon..haha..
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Apr 26 2007, 01:23 PM)
my vote goes to GTI for sure..

dun give any reason like 2 doors or 4 doors.. its so lame...

when i bought my putra.. this is wat my parents says ... its a 2 door car... in future .. u will regret...

my reply was .. u think i gonna drive 1 car for like 10 years?? if after few years i still cant afford another one.. then im a total loser .. :-P

the main point is .. if u arent fetching ur family always .. get the GTI .. dun worry about ur frens... YOU buy a car that u want and like .. not for the convineint of ur frens to hop in and out .. if the wanna car pool ur GTI .. dont complaint thats a 2 doors ... else get a taxi or bus .. tat is wat i tell my frens .. hahaha
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What about taking a fairly cheap Satria around 10 to 15k and spend the rest on transplant and bodykits ?
Way better than getting GTI right ?
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QUOTE(blinky @ Apr 26 2007, 10:40 AM)
Get a Waja.

GTi already an obsolete model, you're going to have nightmares when you're selling it off next time. With 35,000 I think you can get a Mitsu Waja (more power compared to campro) year 2004, which has minimal problems compared to the earlier batches.
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-.-" I am worrying the next time I sell it for sure, dat is y i buy second hand car, tongue.gif
Yeah, if i buy waja, i'll get Mitsu engine 1...lancer engine mah...

QUOTE(spoon2272 @ Apr 26 2007, 10:41 AM)
turbo GTi!!!  nod.gif
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Yes, will change it if I get GTi, but don't know when only... 4G93T!


QUOTE(john@ @ Apr 26 2007, 10:46 AM)
I choose Waja. Bcos it's more comfortable driving and it got 4 doors.
Good if u thinking long terms as others already suggested.
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Too common considerationg lar bro...if u say like this, small car no people buy ad lo...


QUOTE(Matrix @ Apr 26 2007, 11:43 AM)
Choose Waja ler. For racing, i choose Burnout 3 - XBOX and Gran Turismo 4 - PS2....lol.

2nd hand GTi...prev owner sure kena engine kaw-kaw already...maintenance will kill yer later.
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????????Burnout 3 - XBOX and Gran Turismo 4 - PS2???????

Mmm... I can always find a better one, tongue.gif

QUOTE(Kerry1136 @ Apr 26 2007, 11:48 AM)
GTI gogogo
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-.-" Sure GTi gogogo lar..


QUOTE(daddyVW @ Apr 26 2007, 12:08 PM)
You rite.. putra first generation 1.8 engine and GTi second. People said 1st more power.. sorry, me myself never tried lar.. but handling definetely GTi win.
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Yes, putra's handling is really BAD, my bro own a putra, whenever I'm cornering, feel like the car is going to roll upside down... nightmare....


QUOTE(Bernard Yeo @ Apr 26 2007, 12:30 PM)
It's probably sensible to choose a 4-door sedan over a 2-door hatch. I think you'll welcome the extra 2 doors when you get passengers. Later you can upgrade the engine, fit a turbo, get a manual gearbox, racing shocks, Brembo and voila! Wajavo IX.
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Yes, I am thinking about it!!!!!!! Change the body kit, change engine n exshaut, change suspension...lol...

QUOTE(igor_is300 @ Apr 26 2007, 12:52 PM)
I prefer neither.

Since you have a budget of RM35k, why don't you top up a bit and buy a new Satria Neo.

Reasons:

a. New car (virgin) - you are the 1st owner so it's never a headache to remember its past history.

b. Easier financing - it's a new car, you can get easier financial assistance even up to 9 years loan repayment (lol, bad idea).

c. A stock silver satria neo really beats any gti in terms of physical look and handling(needs citation). You can upgrade the engine performance later on if the budget permits.

I myself drive a boring small toyota sedan since I require a good everyday car. Well if i have more money to own a second car for weekend drive, I definitely buy a satria neo tongue.gif

Okay, drop any of my ideas if you think your budget is too limited.
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Erm, yes I like NEO very much, if it is fit with mitsu engine, I'll surely get it, but it comes with campro engine...VERY underpowered when pick up...which can be easily beaten by kancil (lol..I'm just kidding, but i think it is possible)

QUOTE(rooonie @ Apr 26 2007, 01:05 PM)
if i'm not mistaken WAJA, Tiara and Juara has the worst value in proton...
WAJA bought in 2005-6 for 60k now onli can sell for 35-40k or even lesser...
usually its hard to look for GTi at Second hand car shop... GTi is good in demand...
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Look for GTi is not difficult, but look for a good 1, hard loh...


QUOTE(ckkean @ Apr 26 2007, 01:08 PM)
Go for Satria GTi...more powerful & ,sportier than Waja
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That's one of the point y i wanna buy gti...


QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Apr 26 2007, 01:23 PM)
my vote goes to GTI for sure..

dun give any reason like 2 doors or 4 doors.. its so lame...

when i bought my putra.. this is wat my parents says ... its a 2 door car... in future .. u will regret...

my reply was .. u think i gonna drive 1 car for like 10 years?? if after few years i still cant afford another one.. then im a total loser .. :-P

the main point is .. if u arent fetching ur family always .. get the GTI .. dun worry about ur frens... YOU buy a car that u want and like .. not for the convineint of ur frens to hop in and out .. if the wanna car pool ur GTI .. dont complaint thats a 2 doors ... else get a taxi or bus .. tat is wat i tell my frens .. hahaha
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"u think i gonna drive 1 car for like 10 years?? if after few years i still cant afford another one.. then im a total loser"

I'm totally agree with u!

My house have a lot of car, if go out with family won't be sitting my car anyway.. tongue.gif

Hahaha...u speak my mind... feel like getting GTi after seeing ur reply... rclxms.gif
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satria GTI and the waja are so so diff in league..

one is all abt performance..da other is abt comfort and practicality..

what do u 1??

u 1 sumting dat performs..or..do u 1 sumting dat is practical??
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QUOTE(Andy0625 @ Apr 26 2007, 01:54 PM)
What about taking a fairly cheap Satria around 10 to 15k and spend the rest on transplant and bodykits ?
Way better than getting GTI right ?
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The problem is, I am paying by installement, how long do i need to wait to modify my car?

Anyway, thanks for suggesting... tongue.gif
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i always see waja cannot make U-turn ................ sight too short

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