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S3phiroth
post Aug 10 2018, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(zinglicious @ Aug 10 2018, 04:54 PM)
When the drivers dun have the equal rights to rate the riders, it would be abused.  bangwall.gif

In the court of law, the accused is given opportunity to defend themselves by the accusers. In crappy law, whatever the riders said is like gospel truth. It doesnt matter if the accused has impeccable record of 4.99 ratings over 1,000 rides.  bangwall.gif  bangwall.gif
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Crap drivers are guilty until proven otherwise. There is simply no human right for u.
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post Aug 10 2018, 09:38 PM

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Riding on mycar for the 1st time and I feel that my life is at risk right now. No phone holder, brake already ngek ngek ngek sound yet still drive like fast & furious.

Now i know that why these people drive mycar instead of crap.
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post Aug 10 2018, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(bcombat @ Aug 10 2018, 09:41 PM)
what is the driver rating?
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4.9
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post Aug 11 2018, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(moosekaka @ Aug 11 2018, 09:27 PM)
bro.. why you no give business to follow grab drivers, go to competitor pulak:-(
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Haha just wanna to test mah.

#KnowYourCompetitor
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post Aug 11 2018, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Aug 11 2018, 09:15 PM)
Many things happened today...

It was a GS job. I picked a tourist couple from a hotel. They had many luggage.
Then crap found me a matching job. The rider barely fit into my little car...

Was thinking of canceling the second job. But then crap would find me another matching rider. So just took it lah...

= = =

Was ferrying a Pinoy when I was stopped by a police.
My rider produced his passport. The officer asked him, "what is your name?", "What is your date of birth?"
The Pinoy answered the questions correctly. The police then let us go...

= = =

I was at Serdang Raya when I got a ping. The rider was at APU new campus in TPM (Technology Park Malaysia).
Waze told me to go through the main gate. I was perplexed, because it would be shorter to go through the side gate near Standard Chartered.
I decided not to follow Waze's route.
Big mistake. TPM's side gate was closed on Sunday.
Since this was a GS job, I just touched the Cancel button...
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If i am not mistaken that gate also close after 8pm.

I became waterfish when i was still new. Extra long distance in, empty car out. Rugi like hell.

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post Aug 12 2018, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(cfl @ Aug 12 2018, 12:00 AM)
Well same here, crap keep sending on AA reminder..

It's almost after 1week crap enforce this forcing AA on HG, they should have their statistics now and should be analysing it.  If the outcome is not favourable to them, expect some outrageous announcement next week. Who knows they may send u SMS warning : " Turn on AA or else you will be banned....."

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I dont think they will go such extreme for the moment. Maybe just further tune down the priority to get job if not on AA.
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post Aug 12 2018, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(lznce2679 @ Aug 12 2018, 04:45 PM)
Grab Cash Advance Plan

Grab: Great news XXX, Grab is introducing an exclusive *Grab Cash Advance Plan, and you’ve been selected to be part of this plan. It’s a plan to help ease our driver-partners’ daily expenses - toll, petrol, car servicing fee, household needs, etc.

Sign-up by 16 August 2018 to receive cash-in-advance of RM600. After signing up, we’ll advance the RM600 into your bank account on 20 August 2018.

The daily deduction amount is RM15.15** of incentives earned daily. This daily deduction amount is inclusive of a minimal RM6 weekly charge.

If you’re interested in this plan, please fill up the form by clicking the button below

*This is a beta test for selected driver-partners only.
**RM636 divided equally across 42 days (6 weeks)
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This new line of biz has about 170% of effective annual interest rate. CrapAhLong, indeed.

Just wonder will my house kena red paint if i stop driving and no money to pay back?
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post Aug 12 2018, 08:20 PM

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QUOTE(Sky20 @ Aug 12 2018, 07:09 PM)
I'm with digi. I did go back to the grab driver app and reclicked the navigation arrow a few times though I didn't shut down waze
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Just switch off waze before u press the navigation arrow again. It usually works if u try 1-3 times.

If it doesnt, that means waze has problems and nothing u can do about it.
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post Aug 12 2018, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(Goodboy92 @ Aug 12 2018, 08:31 PM)
600 per week 6
1% interest per week
4% per month
48% per year

The thing here was if you need small money it was a fast loan.

Another thing here was late payment etc how to calculate are not clear.
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Go learn some math, kiddo. shakehead.gif

or at least learn some basic concept how bank or ahlong fool u with misleading number.

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post Aug 13 2018, 01:28 AM

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Money itself has time value. Rm1 today has different value than rm1 yesterday. Therefore u also need to know the frequency of repayment and compounded period to know the actual interest rate u paid for the loan.

Simple interest rate is just a misleading number to hide the actual cost of your loan. Who is going to borrow the money if the crap ahlong tells u that your loan interest is 170% per annum.

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CrapAhLong also mislead u with such a short loan period (6weeks). Imagine if CrapAhLong lengthen the loan period to 52 weeks with same interest rate calculation and daily repayment, how much is your total repayment at the end of the period? It is rm951. Now u can feel the heat.

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post Aug 13 2018, 01:58 AM

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QUOTE(moosekaka @ Aug 13 2018, 01:43 AM)
I think what is confusing Ahboy is that to him, paying back 636 in one lump sum after 6 weeks, is the same thing to him as paying 15.15 everyday over six weeks.
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Too young too naive. biggrin.gif

Bank sure loves him.
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post Aug 13 2018, 11:49 AM

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Why real interest rate is so important?

Let me ask u (especially young people) one question:

U have 2 choices to borrow rm10000 from:-

1. Crap Ah Long who charge u current 1% interest rate per week, daily repayment and payback period of 365 days.

2. Credit card cash advance with standard 5% cash advance fee and interest rate of 18% per annum. For sake of comparison, u will pay off the loan in 365 days with daily repayment schedule too.

Now tell me, which option will u take? why?

p/s: Rich or rich-wannabe need not to learn. Just let other poor people make some money out of u. laugh.gif
p/p/s: if u r young and yet to commit in huge sum of loan, not rich or not rich-wannabe, then u better not to think in layman way of interest rate mindset. Learn how it works and i guarantee u will save hundreds if not tens of thousand of interest for your entire life.

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post Aug 13 2018, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(d-realm @ Aug 13 2018, 11:33 AM)
half of puchong became rm45 since last month.. now they only show the map
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Mcb one of my klia sweet spot just gone. sad.gif
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post Aug 13 2018, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(moosekaka @ Aug 13 2018, 12:16 PM)
Many ppl do not know how interest works. S3phiroth give simpler example la...otherwise many will still not understand.
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I dont know how to give a simpler example if they cant grasp the concept of time value of money after so many examples since the dicussion begun.

I speechless when ahboy said 'the amount we pay are the same total in the end'. So i think i just pass and let u guys take over.
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post Aug 13 2018, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(moosekaka @ Aug 13 2018, 12:22 PM)
No more sweet Landside to KLIA Petronas /McD for RM25! bye.gif
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Months ago, there were 2 sweet spots:

1. Certain Sepang area. Rm65 for 15-20km to klia.
2. Certain Puchong area. Rm65 for ~30km to klia.

:'(
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post Aug 13 2018, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(moosekaka @ Aug 13 2018, 12:38 PM)
for sake of making clear to everyone, here's is my calculation (S3phiroth correct me if wrong):

1) simple interest 52% Per annum. pay back everyday, total interest paid over one year = $2,246.24
2) 18% nominal rate per annum, actual amount loan = $9500. total interest paid for 10K loan amount after one year = $852. plus the cost of the loan fee =  $500. total cost to borrow 10000 = $1352.

PS: I use https://www.calculator.net/loan-calculator.html, set compound to annualy and payback everyday. under Amortized Loan: Paying Back a Fixed Amount Periodically
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I gtg now. To be continued tonight...
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post Aug 13 2018, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Aug 13 2018, 02:30 PM)
No need to worry about certain areas being too cheap anymore. Now ALL areas too cheap. Go to KLIA for RM45, queue for 4 hours, get another RM45.  biggrin.gif
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Klia is never short of drivers queuing despite the fare and airport bonus is getting lower and lower. Many drivers still willing to kill for a job from/to klia, which also means crap still has room to further reduce the klia fare/bonus.

Dont be surprise if crap reduces the kv fare from rm65 to rm50 and zero bonus for kepong/batu cave-klia job.

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post Aug 13 2018, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(moosekaka @ Aug 13 2018, 02:33 PM)
4 hours q too long, must be during very quiet hrs. busy time 2hrs plus to less then an HR . but even 2hrs plus it's too long... some ppl can be OK with that. as long as you don't mind the risk of getting a rm25 ping after that 2hr wait 😂

there are also klia regulars who don't mind sleep overnight at klia....
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U know...u can now rent a camp/sleeping bag at lakeside for small amount of money.

Basically u can eat, drink, shit and sleep there without needs to go home.
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post Aug 13 2018, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(moosekaka @ Aug 13 2018, 06:04 PM)
OK I think I make mistake. here is how the daily repayment amount should be calculated based on What I think S3phiroth  trying to give example:

1) Grab interest 1% per week on 10K amount, daily repayment, loan period 1year. daily repayment  = (1.52 x 10000) ÷ 365 = 41.64 a day.
2) Credit card 18% per annum but give you only  9.5K because they deduct 5% advance fee.  daily repayment = (0.18*10000 +9500)÷365 = 30.96 a day.
real interest rate, based on daily amortization of the loan :

1) 146.7% !!

2) 42.85%
BTW, credit card real interest rate by law in some countries cannot exceed 30%. otherwise is considered usury.
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1st, I wish to clarify that I am not an actuary or financial planner. I am just an sceptical oldman who loves to study things on my own rather than listen to what a professional tells me. So correct me if I am wrong, i'll be happy to learn something new.

1) Based on the original rm600 principal and 42days of RM15.15 daily repayment, i already worked out that the real interest rate is 172% [Calculation here]. The interest rate will remain unchanged if i just change the principal and loan period. Think about it, the interest rate of your bank loan is not going to change if u borrow different sum of money or choose a different loan period, isnt it? The only changes are the total interest and the installment amount. Of course unless CrapAhLong says they give u better rate if u borrow more money or choose a longer loan period then it is a different story.

So in this case, the effective rate for CrapAhLong is still 172% per annum on daily rest basis.

2) 1st correction, if u withdraw 10k using credit card, the ATM will still give u 10k, not 9.5k. However, a 5% of cash advance fee will be charge instantly, which also means your starting principal is rm10.5k.

Since CrapAhLong doesnt need u to pay a cash advance fee, it is difficult to find out which one has better offer because u cant compare apple to apple despite u know that credit card charge u 18% per annum.

So how to turn the 2nd case into apple? Simple, consider that your principal is 10.5k. If i plug the relevant number into the calculator [Calculation here], I get RM31.2 as a daily repayment amount.

Now change the principle back to 10k and change the interest rate a few times (trial and error) until u get the same RM31.2 as daily repayment amount [Calculation here]. Now u turned the orange into apple successfully (because u have removed the cash advance fee as a variable) which allow u to do a direct comparison.

So in this case, the effective rate for credit card cash advance is 30.5% per annum on daily rest basis.

Now u guys can see for obvious how CrapAhLong makes a windfall profit out of u.

Oklah i rest my case here. I already gone too far and i apologize for hijacking the topic.

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post Aug 15 2018, 06:28 AM

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QUOTE(lznce2679 @ Aug 14 2018, 11:55 PM)
RM 0.00 GrabAllStars: Dear XXX, congratulations! You are entitled to enjoy your exclusive privilege with Mesra Fuel Savers programme. Pump with Petronas now and enjoy rebate up to 2,200 Mesra Points! For more info, see https://grb.to/FSP

>>wth? opted in since it started..
still hutang points from June.. not a word at all..
lagi mau promote this @#$&
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I have sent total 3 emails to request for an update of new crap mesra card since weeks ago. The reply i got was it will be updated in 3-5 working days but nothing is done till now.

I guess crapallstar is just a scam program.

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