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Grab Driver Discussion V4, Info and FAQ
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Nov 20 2018, 01:12 PM
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Nov 20 2018, 01:47 PM
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Nov 20 2018, 02:08 PM
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Nov 20 2018, 02:28 PM
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QUOTE(d-realm @ Nov 20 2018, 02:11 PM) Last time daily AR , we incentive driver have alot AR to filter.. Last time holiday is doable. Now... provided incentives block is more. If not better plan to rest. Save energy and refresh better.mon-fri play incentive saturday sunday play fare... now abit tough leh.. filter 3-4 kena lock 5min |
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Nov 20 2018, 05:29 PM
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QUOTE(chrnosx @ Nov 20 2018, 04:14 PM) Sometimes, I feel that asking for incentive during PH or Sundays is a bit over. I think the incentive is fair in the sense that the road is mighty clear. Its just being greedy. What Grab could do is to make the fares more expensive on rest days. In my honest opinion, I think the incentive structure is fair play at this point. Normally on these days, I will go to hot zones. Bro... nothing should feel over about incentives during the PH n Sunday. Crap need to do something to keep driver online at this period. If they think that they can remove incentives during these period and still have sufficient driver on the road. They can actually remove that. Than only come to driver evaluate worth to drive or not. Incentive is just a encouragement to driver. But no incentive, no encouragement. What I don't find fair is on weekdays, esp raining season now. The incentive structure for Monday - Thursday should be the same as Friday being 9 pm a P. It is so stupid to change from 8-9pm a B as the jam sometimes only ends at 9:30 at certain areas. Yes.. for weekdays not encourage to drive after 8m. As you said, certain road may still at jam and it’s will definitely waste your time if you got a trip to there. Those road like Salak Highway, federal highway, Jalan Loke yew and imbi and Bkt bintang area. I’m normally off line after 8pm. Fare back to low n no incentive plus jam. |
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Nov 21 2018, 09:29 AM
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QUOTE(ys2233 @ Nov 21 2018, 01:37 AM) That's the name of the game provided you are on HG which they are trying to phase out. In every FMCG industry, cross subsidies are very normal. Crap makes money from: Not only these. They earned the driver credit before driver start to drive. Whether you drive or not they took your money already. Any yet they take the rider money in advance by e wallet. Whether the rider take a ride or not they already earned the money. Such a huge cash flow is far more than the operation cost. They can use the money to invest in other place. That’s why they don’t have take loan from bank and those big corporations are rushing to invest in this company. While google invested in ublur at year 2013 and they got three time returns in year 2016. While ublur declares lost these three years.1. Klia trips (rm13 x 5k trips/day) 2. Flexi drivers 3. part-timers who never complete enough trips for any incentive |
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Nov 21 2018, 12:02 PM
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Nov 21 2018, 10:28 AM) Look at the latest 2 weeks statement, do u think grab is at losses now? They are making profit. Nowadays they always have credit figures most of the time between commission n incentives.My driving pattern is mostly 6-8pm (Mon-Thursday), Friday (6-9pm), weekend depends. ![]() ![]() |
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Nov 21 2018, 12:06 PM
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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Nov 20 2018, 02:49 PM) It is a good move by grab. Since driver filtering. Riders wont get the service of the driver anyway. Let the features phase out the drivers if cannot cari makan. Then lesser driver, fare can be higher due to demand n genuine drivers left around can cari better makan. Riders can get the ride they want. Rider who not willing to pay, they will find their way to board bus or lrt. Sorry.. I have different point of view. We are doing e-hailing service not public transport service. E-hailing basis is matching each other not control or force driver to accept trip and force rider to use his service. What system have to do is encourage people to use his platform under certain rules and regulations. Not through the max control. Okay. Back to the statement. If driver pay higher commission, give out HG incentives by turn off AA. Why driver can’t filter trip under certain percentage of AR? Yet have to control by time up feature. As we know, driver filter job too much and he will not gain much because spend too much time in filter. But at lease he get what he want rather than gambling his evening something like to klcc for more than one hour drive with only Rm10-15 and worst is how to get out from there that it could be another 0.5-1 hour. As a driver, I hope that I can go home happily with some decent earning other than with shame because of ruined by a trip that you not desire for the whole evening. As a driver, rider convenience is not my obligation. The moment we start engine, put online is expect to make some decent earnings with right fare and right direction. Not something like obligated to send you to somewhere that we know will ruin your whole evening and really don’t want to go. Don’t tell me this will not happen. Driver is trying his best to avoid this kind of trip with his limited bullet. But it’s still a just trying. The system is already work so unfair to the driver in terms of lower fare than taxi fare, fix fare(which is haggling from reverse side), shorten notification, AA, time up, trip cancellation upon arrived, reducing incentives, rating system. What else that driver not been control yet?? |
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Nov 21 2018, 02:09 PM
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QUOTE(d-realm @ Nov 21 2018, 12:13 PM) Actually grab can just increase incentive on hotspot like KLCC to prevent driver choose job, but they choose cheapskate way The only way is fare rates with timers or one step behind estimated time for traffic . Which is very impossible for crap. Why? Crap penetrates market with fix rate which very welcome by rider(cheapskate rider). Than Ublur was come out with upfront fare to fight with it, but it’s still calculated it accordingly if the traffic is over extreme. Hince, this is the reason why rider complained very hard to get crap than ublur at that time during peak hours. |
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Nov 21 2018, 03:53 PM
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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Nov 21 2018, 02:45 PM) You may be right when u think from a specific point which is KLCC. You may want to call grab as e-hailing service or in reality id grab a real e-hailing or copycat taxi services? Being a driver, you should know it very well. Prefer zone is a good suggestion but is only the good suggestion. Driver who doesn’t want to go far and high fare trip will be very happy with it. They can serve the community at the prefer zone for hours than go home rest. But the fact is impossible because crap want max control of driver not driver has a even single options. If the driver want options pls bear with their cr. And it’s also against their reducing HG incentives policy. And yes, I also don’t know why cash trip is so mean to some driver out there. Drivers need riders, riders need drivers, grab take this opportunity to reap benefits in between to provide a platform for both drivers n riders. Before grab exist, riders already there, just that they are chosing taxi, mrt, bus or walking or fetching by friends n families. With the appearance of grab or uber, riders are given an additional choice for their travel. A rider always have a choice to take a grab ride or alternative ride whenever available, hence u see that many cancellation occurred other than those gaming to cancel rides. As a driver, u wont cancel unnecessarily if the driver decided to pick up a rider. For your reason KLCC, i understand it. But for many other drivers out there, they also cancel it which not due to jam in klcc. I experience few drivers who told me what some drivers wants, every trip they try to maximize earnings by picking. They are happy to boast how they play out both riders n grab company. Hence with some regulation like penalties of cancellation is good(just that may happen to have another round of abuse) to control it to certain extent. So far, my experience are good(as i not going into klcc), only experience cancellation from drivers who wants cash. I gave in for the first 2 times due to drivers said pocket tiada cash....but more n more often this happening. It cant be many drivers out there pocket really no cash most of the time. When a driver really think that they are out there to perform convinient drive, why not suggest to grab that every driver can have a preferred zone where they want to go. So that the those trip which they dont wont goes to them. It can save a lot of troubles. |
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Nov 21 2018, 03:58 PM
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QUOTE(b4sh88 @ Nov 21 2018, 03:22 PM) https://www.grab.com/my/better-earnings-wit..._content=tip1-B Good to see that. Let see how it work. I remember last time they promised long pickup bonus but never happen on me.Based on this, there will be timer to be implemented near end of this month. |
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Nov 21 2018, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE(Lancelot9 @ Nov 21 2018, 03:53 PM) Prefer zone is a good suggestion but is only the good suggestion. Driver who doesn’t want to go far and high fare trip will be very happy with it. They can serve the community at the prefer zone for hours than go home rest. But the fact is impossible because crap want max control of driver not driver has a even single options. If the driver want options pls bear with their cr. And it’s also against their reducing HG incentives policy. And yes, I also don’t know why cash trip is so mean to some driver out there. Op.... now I know why... they just got my cash out decline. And this happened occasionally. 😓 |
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Nov 21 2018, 10:25 PM
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Nov 21 2018, 05:09 PM) You are saying that Grab is just a facilitator, and should not control the preferences of the drivers. Let's compare Grab with property agents. Girls are really hard to understand. Some of them when she is alone, she chose to sit front sit without hesitation. Some with reason coz she needs the mirror behind sun shield for her aggressive makeup during the trip. Some benefits me with her snow white tights with short skirt. Even I offer her to sit behind but she said is alright. Fantasy immediately rise in my mind, what about sit on me. Some when come in two people, one sit in front and another one sit at the back. Than start chatting non stop by turning her head to her friend. I feel tired for her neck. Some come in three people all sit at the back. Make my absorbers so pressure. Girls are really hard to understand. As hard as my statement. 😅In a property trading: - the seller determines what price to sell her property - the buyer determines what property to buy, and at what price - the agent tries to match each other and facilitates the deal In e-hailing: - Grab, not the driver or rider, determines the fare - Grab also pays out incentives to drivers (even though the amount is getting less) In short, Grab is a facilitator, but its roles are more than that. Maybe we can have a pure facilitator platform which gives drivers all the freedom. You can start one if you like But in that case drivers will be spending a lot of time bargaining with riders, and cannot expect incentives if they are stuck in traffic jam. You say we are in e-hailing. That's right. But what you describe is more like ride-sharing or carpooling. There are many ride-sharing / carpooling platforms in other countries. But the fact that Uber, Didi etc. remain the most popular basically says something... |
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Nov 22 2018, 09:42 PM
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QUOTE(2feidei @ Nov 22 2018, 09:28 PM) Yeah, when I started off is base fare rm1.50 + rm0.6/km + rm0.3/min. Then, they cut base fare rm0.95 + rm0.60/km + rm0.25/min. Then, the decided to compete with Grab, introduced fixed fare, but, driver unable to know how much, until trip completed, and that's the time I stop driving completely jor. I still the screenshot. ![]() |
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Nov 22 2018, 09:45 PM
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Nov 22 2018, 10:05 PM
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QUOTE(CarrotMilk7517 @ Nov 22 2018, 05:43 PM) WoW, DR from 4.97 down to 4.91. Nothing unusual happened or get trouble rider for this week. - 0.06 just in a day. I sense I will get fxxk up soon!! 😁 Dr drop with nothing unusual is normal. Just some time unlucky you meet some out of mind rider. My case was even rider wrong also my Dr drop. 😓 |
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Nov 22 2018, 10:15 PM
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Nov 22 2018, 10:35 PM
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QUOTE(xcamsight @ Nov 22 2018, 08:33 PM) At first they emphasized they are not the same with his competitors. Now have to follow because can’t meet the market needs. I don’t mind they follow. But pls follow thoroughly or better. Don’t stills the culture like follow some, hold some, give some but take some. It’s really torture the driver. |
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Nov 22 2018, 11:05 PM
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Nov 23 2018, 10:40 AM
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Nov 23 2018, 10:23 AM) Your guarantee per minute earning at MP slot going to be RM0.65, so 18 mins going to be earn RM10.80 at least. Right!!!! It’s windering me too. From what I know Go-Car is a Almera park at the petrol station with signboard. Since when there is a driver inside the car.Go-car Malaysia is under Tan Chong group, car rental business, Please don't confuse with it. |
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