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JohnL77
post Aug 13 2018, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(Goodboy92 @ Aug 13 2018, 12:39 AM)
Now I see where I am wrong haha

It depend on the payment period then , if daily mean you have less cash compare to monthly
Since the term of borrowing was short , hence the payment period?
But in the end it bring you to the same place , weekly or monthly you still have to return

The point of borrowing was to increase your cash for one off payment, then you return from profit over time
( same as car loan , which you don't make one off payment only after 5years , you return while owning )

By using 15.15 x 42 = 636.30 ( 30sen more ) which not sure grab will deduct or not the 30sen.

At the end , Grab still earn you rm36+30sen maybe ( no change )

If you have 600 and you lend it to other at 1% per month rate with monthly return
Still you earn the same amount , just different cash flow.
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Wrong.

If you put your money in the bank in a fixed deposit at an interest rate of 4% per annum then that's it. After 1 year you get 4%.

But what if you lent your money to someone else in the same way as Grab?

For example, you give RM1,000 to Guy A for one month and you tell him he needs to pay you back RM1040, and he needs to pay you back daily through installments.

By the middle of the month Guy A would have paid you back RM500 at least. You can then take this RM500 and lend it to Guy B.

But this time you lend the money to Guy B for half a month and you tell him he needs to pay you back RM520, and he needs to pay you back daily through installments.

At the end of the month, how much did you earn from your capital of RM1,000? RM40 or RM60?

Now scale it up. Le't say you have RM100,000 and you lend it to 100 guys so each of them gets RM1,000. And everyday they pay you back a total of RM3,347. You can take this money everyday and lend it to more guys.

Of course Grab is not doing this right now, because they are still beta testing it and only some drivers can apply for this cash advance. But what happens when they open it for everyone?

But even if this scheme is not open to all drivers for now, Grab can take all that money they collect back from drivers daily and reinvest it somewhere else.

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post Aug 13 2018, 01:47 AM

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QUOTE(moosekaka @ Aug 13 2018, 01:43 AM)
I think what is confusing Ahboy is that to him, paying back 636 in one lump sum after 6 weeks, is the same thing to him as paying 15.15 everyday over six weeks.
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I thought a forex trader would understand time value of money..... Ah boy, ah boy....
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post Aug 13 2018, 01:58 AM

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QUOTE(moosekaka @ Aug 13 2018, 01:53 AM)
scary FX  trader...later kena margin call gg
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Hopefully everything goes smoothly for Ah Boy once he graduates from his training account.

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Not like this.

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post Aug 13 2018, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(Ron2828 @ Aug 13 2018, 08:31 AM)
https://www.thestar.com.my/news/regional/20...s-than-us30-in/

if this happened to a grab driver,how would grab respond?

A)Grab to do the honourable thing and follow Didi Chuxing’s  action to compensate driver

B)Driver : My customer dont have money to pay
  Grab CS: Too bad, we will make a remark on this customer to warn other driver.Use MD back home to cover your losses
  Driver : .......

C)Driver : My customer dont have money to pay
  Thomas Smith : Takde orang letak pisau kat leher atau guna pistol paksa u ambik customer ni kan?
  Driver: .........
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"Didi added that it was currently developing a real-name passenger registration system for its app, expected to launch by the end of this year.

This will be linked to an in-app social credit rating system for passengers."

Wow.
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post Aug 13 2018, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(moosekaka @ Aug 13 2018, 12:00 PM)
AKA akan datang too Grab maybe 6months to a year later... or maybe Didi nice will share tech to little brother Anthony
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Next time wanna get married maybe your in laws will check your Didi account social rating. biggrin.gif


Why are we teaching forex expert about time value of money? biggrin.gif

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post Aug 13 2018, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(moosekaka @ Aug 13 2018, 12:16 PM)
Many ppl do not know how interest works. S3phiroth give simpler example la...otherwise many will still not understand.
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Ok, I try to give Goodboy92 one last lesson.

Let's use moose's example of having to repair your car.

Let's say you need to repair your car for RM600. What are you options?

1. Pay cash RM600.

2. Pay using credit card.

3. Take cash advance from Grab.

For this example, we assume that the day you repair your car is the 1st day of your credit card billing cycle. That means you have 50 days to settle this RM600 with your credit card company. That is because your billing cycle is 30 days, then after you get your bill, you are given another 20 days from the date of the bill to settle the bill. You know what is 50 days? It's 7 weeks. That's 1 week extra compared to what Grab gives you.

So let's say 1, you pay cash RM600 to repair your car, then that money is gone. Pay liao.

But what if 2, you use credit card to pay? For this example we assume that you actually have RM600 cash to pay for this repair. So if you have the cash, why want to use credit card? Because you can actually take that RM600 and put it in a 1 month FD or invest it somewhere else. You won't earn much from 1 month FD, but it's still better than paying interest to someone else.

Very important to note, if you settle your credit card bill on time, you don't pay any interest. Free 50 days credit for you.


If you take option 3, you immediately start paying Grab back daily. Which is why I ask in previous example, do you really have that RM600 for 6 weeks? You see, there's a big difference between the credit terms given by Grab vs credit card.

Ah Boy, you can go read up on, "time value of money." If you don't want.. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ But if you ever take a loan, or even credit card, it's good to know this.


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QUOTE(bojed @ Aug 13 2018, 12:59 PM)
Then all I can say is goodluck to riders who want to go to KLIA from BBP because I will ignore them for sure 😁

Say what you riders want but I feel RM45 from IOI City Mall and those hotels nearby to KLIA for RM45 is nothing short of daylight robbery, what more if you're from BBP.
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Certain parts ok KL.. Up to 65km for RM65, and no incentive from Grab... bangwall.gif
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post Aug 13 2018, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(Goodboy92 @ Aug 13 2018, 01:05 PM)
Thanks everyone for the lesson  notworthy.gif

1. If got cash no need borrow
2. credit card was a very good choice if use wisely
3. Cash advance from grab was either cheated by grab advertisement or really no other source of borrowing

To be honest , since I never have any great amount of money , I never think of these borrowing etc , my dream was forex can earn me a lot of cash flow thus I don't need to think " so much " about credit , and just spend what I can afford. For some people , this sound stupid don't know how to use debt , but I don't have a proper stable income thus no basis to build these debt. Car loan was under parents name paid by myself . I myself don't have a credit card.

I do learn a lesson here , so grab loan was the last choice also the most expensive choice of borrowing.
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4th option - borrow from real ah long and kena pukul when you don't pay.

If you have cash and you have credit card, you can be wise and use your credit card to earn some money.

0% installment plans using credit cards are great.

If you are buying a big ticket item like an aircond or fridge, and you have the cash, you can choose to use a 0% installment plan then you invest that cash. Instead of paying interest to the CC company, you earn from investing your cash.

Of course, stores like Lazada are smart. If you want to use their 0% installment plan, you cannot use any promo code. So you need to do the math. If the discount from the promo code is bigger than the amount you can earn from investing your cash, then just pay for the item in full. But nowadays Lazada rarely got promo code, so....

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post Aug 13 2018, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(moosekaka @ Aug 13 2018, 01:19 PM)
ioi to klia 38km shortest route on gmap. still more then rm1 per km. what about places like Bangsar to KLIA? 62km for rm65. and now worst kepong to KLIA No more rm65.

conclusion.... you must be a special kind of driver to want to take klia.
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Even if it is 38km for RM45, it is not worth it to go queue there like an idiot. All KLIA trips are sohai except for those rare cases when you get Surge on a KLIA trip. But that's like winning the lottery.
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post Aug 13 2018, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(moosekaka @ Aug 13 2018, 01:30 PM)
you drive GC+or 6s? me economy.. only multistop to klia can get surge
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Economy.
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Aug 13 2018, 02:28 PM)
Ampang also? hmm.gif

Certain area order crapcar to airport is just plain too cheap. At peak hour the fare isn't worth it
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No need to worry about certain areas being too cheap anymore. Now ALL areas too cheap. Go to KLIA for RM45, queue for 4 hours, get another RM45. biggrin.gif
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post Aug 13 2018, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(moosekaka @ Aug 13 2018, 02:33 PM)
4 hours q too long, must be during very quiet hrs. busy time 2hrs plus to less then an HR . but even 2hrs plus it's too long... some ppl can be OK with that. as long as you don't mind the risk of getting a rm25 ping after that 2hr wait 😂

there are also klia regulars who don't mind sleep overnight at klia....
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KLIA is best for guys who don't want to go home to their nagging wives. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(forever1979 @ Aug 13 2018, 02:31 PM)
i thought mycar even lower ?
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Ye la.. That's the problem.. Other e-hailing spoil price so Grab has to lower their price also. If not, hopefully KLIA fare can go back to RM90 like last time...
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QUOTE(S3phiroth @ Aug 13 2018, 02:55 PM)
U know...u can now rent a camp/sleeping bag at lakeside for small amount of money.

Basically u can eat, drink, shit and sleep there without needs to go home.
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Dafuq..

When want to open "KFC"?
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post Aug 13 2018, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Aug 13 2018, 07:45 PM)
Just to ask. What is the difference between Justgrab ride n Grabcar ride?

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I thought you damn expert punya rider... whistling.gif
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post Aug 13 2018, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(tenshim0 @ Aug 13 2018, 10:35 PM)
Bello, weak weak to ask sifu sifu...HG incentive payout on same date or next day?
Wan to see my calculation on HG incentif ada betul tak😁
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Next BUSINESS day. Saturday and Sunday Grab staff not working to calculate your incentives.
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QUOTE(Alert_RaZO @ Aug 14 2018, 03:57 PM)
Grab wants to improve driver higher earning is a laughing joke

One of it about the bonus far pick up.
6 seater, mandarin and midnight surcharge are burnt if u entitle to bonus far pick up.
It will boil down to RM1 = 1km total fare.

higher earning? it looks like a fool if u accept this far pick up.
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That's gross. Minus 20% commission and it's only 80 sen/km.
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QUOTE(d-realm @ Aug 14 2018, 10:43 PM)
Its a bug

If on SD 1st then only set AA, it will remove your SD.

I kena twice alrdy.
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I see. Thanks for the info. Next time I'll try on AA first then only SD. Thanks.

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QUOTE(lznce2679 @ Aug 14 2018, 11:55 PM)
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>>wth? opted in since it started..
still hutang points from June.. not a word at all..
lagi mau promote this @#$&
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Later the EPF contribution also they didn't pay....
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QUOTE(doncab @ Aug 15 2018, 12:41 PM)
bro where got 8km? from KL Sentral can used Mahameru road (through flyover at SSM there). distance i checked should be 6.5km
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RM11 for 6.5km is still not really "high fare" lol.

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