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post Mar 30 2018, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(studentsurvey @ Mar 30 2018, 01:54 PM)
Hi Sifus, went and try Mazda 3 in puchong showroom (sadly no soul red). As I was driving i realise the car is not as insulated and was abit bumpy when going into uneven roads.
Is that normal or was i being too overly sensitive?
I read a review that it was intentional as they said have less "insulation" gives a better sense of driving to the driver.
Apart from that, I am not a stickler for RV, but is it true that Mazda's prices generally drop about 30% for the first year --> is not the biggest concern but just wanted to factor in. Ohya, was looking at the HB =p.
And i do agree that some said Bermaz not giving attn to Mazda 3, i asked the showroom why I can't see much HB Mazada 3, they cant answer too lol!
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Hi just started to look around for Mazda 3, aiming sedan high spec.
Can I know how much rebate the puchong showroom giving?
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post Mar 31 2018, 12:40 AM

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QUOTE(yw46 @ Mar 30 2018, 03:34 PM)
Hi just started to look around for Mazda 3, aiming sedan high spec.
Can I know how much rebate the puchong showroom giving?
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Unfortunately not much.. only 1k or 1.2k..
I haggle n haggle.. they say mmg dont give much lolx..
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post Mar 31 2018, 02:04 AM

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Btw guys, what does the warranty covers for the 5 years, and where do u guys get your insurance..Just roughly checked with an insurance agent, they charged 2.5k for a 110k value =.="
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QUOTE(studentsurvey @ Mar 30 2018, 01:54 PM)
Hi Sifus, went and try Mazda 3 in puchong showroom (sadly no soul red). As I was driving i realise the car is not as insulated and was abit bumpy when going into uneven roads.
Is that normal or was i being too overly sensitive?
I read a review that it was intentional as they said have less "insulation" gives a better sense of driving to the driver.
Apart from that, I am not a stickler for RV, but is it true that Mazda's prices generally drop about 30% for the first year --> is not the biggest concern but just wanted to factor in. Ohya, was looking at the HB =p.
And i do agree that some said Bermaz not giving attn to Mazda 3, i asked the showroom why I can't see much HB Mazada 3, they cant answer too lol!
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1st of all, what car were you initially from? I presume you test driven the high spec version??

You feel bumpy because of the suspension tuning. Usually, good handling cars will have firmer suspension. But, it really isn't that bad, or that you really prefer really damped suspension cars like those from toyota camry.

Your view on insulation is partially right. Those considering mazda cars will need to understand a little bit about their brand philosophy. It is not that mazda is cutting corners and lazy but Mazda engineers cars so that driver and car are one, meaning that the driver will be very engaged and connected to the cars. So you feel the road surface on the pedals, you hear the sound of the road surface, the body both light and rigid for on road agility, the suspension tune for balance and stability at speed. When you try a hard corner on a mazda, you'll get to understand this compared to other makes. But still, your preference apply.

But since quite a lot of feedbacks regarding the NVH, mazda engineers did start to dial in more refinement for 2nd generation skyactiv range starting with the 2nd generation cx5. 1st generation facelifts also have some little bits here and there to improve situation a little. After all, more buyers are getting spoiled tongue.gif

QUOTE(studentsurvey @ Mar 31 2018, 02:04 AM)
Just roughly checked with an insurance agent, they charged 2.5k for a 110k value =.="

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Around there...unless you really manage to find an insurance company that can really go lower. For myself personally, i just go with berjaya sompo for the time being, as i still can't find quotes that are better than them. Some quoted almost doubled what berjaya sompo charged.
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post Apr 1 2018, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Mar 31 2018, 08:17 AM)
1st of all, what car were you initially from? I presume you test driven the high spec version??

You feel bumpy because of the suspension tuning. Usually, good handling cars will have firmer suspension. But, it really isn't that bad, or that you really prefer really damped suspension cars like those from toyota camry.

Your view on insulation is partially right. Those considering mazda cars will need to understand a little bit about their brand philosophy. It is not that mazda is cutting corners and lazy but Mazda engineers cars so that driver and car are one, meaning that the driver will be very engaged and connected to the cars. So you feel the road surface on the pedals, you hear the sound of the road surface, the body both light and rigid for on road agility, the suspension tune for balance and stability at speed. When you try a hard corner on a mazda, you'll get to understand this compared to other makes. But still, your preference apply.

But since quite a lot of feedbacks regarding the NVH, mazda engineers did start to dial in more refinement for 2nd generation skyactiv range starting with the 2nd generation cx5. 1st generation facelifts also have some little bits here and there to improve situation a little. After all, more buyers are getting spoiled  tongue.gif
Around there...unless you really manage to find an insurance company that can really go lower. For myself personally, i just go with berjaya sompo for the time being, as i still can't find quotes that are better than them. Some quoted almost doubled what berjaya sompo charged.
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Haha, you are right.. driving a toyota right now..ah so the model for mazda 3 high spec will also have better NVH?
As for insurance, thinking whether should I compromise on the windscreen (additional RM350) and also the special perils, basically act of gods (additional RM600)
And thanks for your feedback!
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post Apr 2 2018, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(studentsurvey @ Apr 1 2018, 12:22 AM)
ah so the model for mazda 3 high spec will also have better NVH?

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High spec may likely have slightly worser NVH compared to GL due to the larger spec'ed wheels.


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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Apr 2 2018, 10:48 AM)
High spec may likely have slightly worser NVH compared to GL due to the larger spec'ed wheels.
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Yea, i saw a few people trading up their 18" for 16".
Literally went back to v9 to read post from July onwards biggrin.gif .
Btw, noob here, just wanted to know, is Hyundai Ioniq comparable to Mazda 3 (not to spark any ill-intention, just merely wants to know).

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QUOTE(studentsurvey @ Apr 1 2018, 12:22 AM)
Haha, you are right.. driving a toyota right now..ah so the model for mazda 3 high spec will also have better NVH?
As for insurance, thinking whether should I compromise on the windscreen (additional RM350) and also the special perils, basically act of gods (additional RM600)
And thanks for your feedback!
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High spec and low spec Mazda 3 have same NVH.

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QUOTE(hamsterr88 @ Apr 2 2018, 11:06 AM)
Yea, i saw a few people trading up their 18" for 16".
Literally went back to v9 to read post from July onwards  biggrin.gif .
Btw, noob here, just wanted to know, is Hyundai Ioniq comparable to Mazda 3 (not to spark any ill-intention, just merely wants to know).
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Compare in terms of? Just test drive both and try it out to see which one you like.
I've tested both before I chosen M3.
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just back from kl-penang trip using my m3 gvc, here are some conclusions

1) road noise , abit high esp for malaysia road , will consider change to a set of less road noise tyre after this running off

2) wind noise, getting some wind noise esp after 120 km/h , but still acceptable for me , cause the car still very stable in high speed.

overall i m satisfy, since i m jump from saga so everything is quite an upgrade for me
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post Apr 2 2018, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(studentsurvey @ Mar 30 2018, 01:54 PM)
Hi Sifus, went and try Mazda 3 in puchong showroom (sadly no soul red). As I was driving i realise the car is not as insulated and was abit bumpy when going into uneven roads.
Is that normal or was i being too overly sensitive?
I read a review that it was intentional as they said have less "insulation" gives a better sense of driving to the driver.
Apart from that, I am not a stickler for RV, but is it true that Mazda's prices generally drop about 30% for the first year --> is not the biggest concern but just wanted to factor in. Ohya, was looking at the HB =p.
And i do agree that some said Bermaz not giving attn to Mazda 3, i asked the showroom why I can't see much HB Mazada 3, they cant answer too lol!
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Yup i must say the road noise is high to my liking. but talking to back passenger at 140kmh is still acceptably ok.
and the noise is high on tyre noise so perhaps with quiter tyre it will resolve the issue a little.
and no they dont drop 30% on the 1st year. more like around 5-10% per year.




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QUOTE(jakal sombong @ Apr 2 2018, 11:30 PM)

and no they dont drop 30% on the 1st year. more like around 5-10% per year.
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Yes, it does.

The moment registered into JPJ system, gone at least 20% regardless of what car brand. Don't refer to 2nd hand car list price, in reality what matters is the transacted price.
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Wonder if anyone knows all the extra options for the Mazda 3 GVC hatchback?

As you can see from the Mazda malaysia gallery image, it seems to show that there is a front lip spoiler, skirts to this model
user posted image

While it seems to be not available from here
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Looking at the price list
http://www.mazda.com.my/PriceList/WestMala...a3_Price(W).pdf

It seems to only show that you can get the kick-plate, boot tray, tint and navigation for it. While the non GVC ones has the Mazda 3 sports kit for 2,168.00 which contains the front, rear lip, side skirts.

So, i am a bit confused as to whether the Mazda 3 HB has this by default or the option is not made available to it. Also, no showroom having the actual unit is not helping with the purchasing decision.
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Also, if anyone knows if the Mazda 3 soon to be a complete CBU line up a rumor or a possibility?

Contemplating to purchase one but maybe in another 3 months time. Also, the lack of show units on showroom floors is making it hard to decide. All dealers including Bermaz HQ says there is no demand and production for HB is super low with only several batches per year compared to sedan.

The big main attraction to me for the Mazda 3 is the center mounted tacho and floor mounted throttle pedal, of course the finishing of the car is second to none.

The only disadvantage to this is that it is quite a bit lacking in rear seat spacing and leg room compared to it's C segment competitor the Civic which i am ruling out due to the design of it and the digital aircond cluster. The only thing that might sway me is if Honda Malaysia launches the Civic Hatch which is unlikely and looking at the interior finishing, still pretty much veering towards the Mazda 3 hatch.

Also, can i ask any Mazda 3 owners here how is the feeling of the brakes. Particularly the brake pedal feel. Is it pretty solid and linear pedal pressure when you press onto the brakes or is it that squishy mushy type of pedal feel. I hate the latter as it doesn't give the confidence when trying to stop. Another deal killer for the car as i have yet to driven a test drive unit yet.

DAMMIT!!! why is buying a car so hard.
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Hi guys, anyone knows a cheap, reliable and trusted 3rd party workshop to recommend for 2012 mazda3?

Can share some workshop details as well as experiences to why the recommended 3rd party workshop is cheap, reliable and trusted?

Greatly appreciate it. Thanks!
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QUOTE(KnightSports @ Apr 4 2018, 05:43 PM)
Also, if anyone knows if the Mazda 3 soon to be a complete CBU line up a rumor or a possibility?

Contemplating to purchase one but maybe in another 3 months time. Also, the lack of show units on showroom floors is making it hard to decide. All dealers including Bermaz HQ says there is no demand and production for HB is super low with only several batches per year compared to sedan.

The big main attraction to me for the Mazda 3 is the center mounted tacho and floor mounted throttle pedal, of course the finishing of the car is second to none.

The only disadvantage to this is that it is quite a bit lacking in rear seat spacing and leg room compared to it's C segment competitor the Civic which i am ruling out due to the design of it and the digital aircond cluster. The only thing that might sway me is if Honda Malaysia launches the Civic Hatch which is unlikely and looking at the interior finishing, still pretty much veering towards the Mazda 3 hatch.

Also, can i ask any Mazda 3 owners here how is the feeling of the brakes. Particularly the brake pedal feel. Is it pretty solid and linear pedal pressure when you press onto the brakes or is it that squishy mushy type of pedal feel. I hate the latter as it doesn't give the confidence when trying to stop. Another deal killer for the car as i have yet to driven a test drive unit yet.

DAMMIT!!! why is buying a car so hard.
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should go test drive, you can consider ford focus as well, i test drove civic , focus and m3 before i bought m3, i might choose focus if purely hatchback , but i need a sedan and m3 sedan is much better looking.
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post Apr 5 2018, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(tesoon @ Apr 5 2018, 01:49 PM)
should go test drive, you can consider ford focus as well, i test drove civic , focus and m3 before i bought m3, i might choose focus if purely hatchback , but i need a sedan and m3 sedan is much better looking.
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Ford is never ever a consideration of mine. Even though now the Focus no longer uses Powershift transmission. It is just never the right car to own.

As for Civic. The sedan is definitely a no-no due to not very happy with the digital aircond cluster. If you don't get the TC-P, you lose out on things like the LED headlamps and stuff.

Interior space wise, the Civic wins the Mazda 3 though. That is the only consolation.

That is, as i said unless Honda Malaysia brings in the hatchback. Then, those things can be overlooked.
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QUOTE(KnightSports @ Apr 4 2018, 05:43 PM)
Also, can i ask any Mazda 3 owners here how is the feeling of the brakes. Particularly the brake pedal feel. Is it pretty solid and linear pedal pressure when you press onto the brakes or is it that squishy mushy type of pedal feel. I hate the latter as it doesn't give the confidence when trying to stop. Another deal killer for the car as i have yet to driven a test drive unit yet.

DAMMIT!!! why is buying a car so hard.
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Go test drive and play with the brakes on your own.

As an owners perspective, if the car is loaded with 3 or more adults, the braking pedal effort will require 50% increase....but my car is after all almost 50k mileage and 60% city driving, so my brakes are used more often. There are times in my mind of thinking to upgrade the front brakes or pads as the seats are usually 50% occupied 90% of the driving time...

One of the best brakes to benchmark in my opinion is the 1st generation vios, love the linearity to max. Missed it very much....

If can wait, just wait till the next generation mazda 3 with skyactiv-x engine with further improved suspension and NVH.

QUOTE(KnightSports @ Apr 5 2018, 02:46 PM)
That is, as i said unless Honda Malaysia brings in the hatchback. Then, those things can be overlooked.
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the only civic hatch you're going to see is the civic type r, normal civic will not have hatchback option as it is not a general malaysian preference.

This post has been edited by wkc5657: Apr 5 2018, 03:00 PM
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post Apr 5 2018, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Apr 5 2018, 02:58 PM)
Go test drive and play with the brakes on your own.

As an owners perspective, if the car is loaded with 3 or more adults, the braking pedal effort will require 50% increase....but my car is after all almost 50k mileage and 60% city driving, so my brakes are used more often. There are times in my mind of thinking to upgrade the front brakes or pads as the seats are usually 50% occupied 90% of the driving time...

One of the best brakes to benchmark in my opinion is the 1st generation vios, love the linearity to max. Missed it very much....

If can wait, just wait till the next generation mazda 3 with skyactiv-x engine with further improved suspension and NVH.
the only civic hatch you're going to see is the civic type r, normal civic will not have hatchback option as it is not a general malaysian preference.
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Thanks for your information.

Brake effort and brake pedal feel is pretty much different thing. With brake assist nowadays, it is almost a no effort to brake any car to a stop as you no longer get rock hard pedals when you stomp on it.

The brake pedal feel, whether it is soft and mushy or firm upon depression is due to the brake master cylinder and it's design. I seriously dislike cars with mushy pedals as it is very hard to gauge when the brakes will grab fully and it doesn't give the driver confidence especially when he / she is forced to go into emergency braking. So, that is my take on it.

If i have RM320k, FK8 Civic Type-R is not my first choice. It will be problematic if one gets the car and Honda proceeds to launch the HB version of the Civic and then you will see copycats left and right on the road.
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QUOTE(KnightSports @ Apr 4 2018, 05:43 PM)
Also, if anyone knows if the Mazda 3 soon to be a complete CBU line up a rumor or a possibility?

Also, can i ask any Mazda 3 owners here how is the feeling of the brakes. Particularly the brake pedal feel. Is it pretty solid and linear pedal pressure when you press onto the brakes or is it that squishy mushy type of pedal feel. I hate the latter as it doesn't give the confidence when trying to stop. Another deal killer for the car as i have yet to driven a test drive unit yet.

DAMMIT!!! why is buying a car so hard.
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You should be able to gauge the brakes for the M3 hatchback by test driving the sedan. They should share the same parts.

The brakes on my M3 sedan are certainly not mushy. It grabs linearly and then a lot when you press harder.


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