Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

5 Pages « < 2 3 4 5 >Bottom

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

 When you change your engine oil?, Every 5000KM/3 months or 10,000KM

views
     
cloudwan
post Apr 27 2007, 01:22 AM

- Knob -
*******
Senior Member
8,525 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: The Jungle Of Pahang


QUOTE(micwin1437 @ Apr 24 2007, 09:38 PM)
nothing wrong with that, in fact i already seen and scrap 1 to 2 mm harden sludge from lots of kia spectra and naza ria which follow the kia service center rule which is...use synthetic engine oil (petronas/caltex) change every 10000km, in the end the car owner need to do major overhaul for their engine after passing the 70000km mileage, after dismantling the engine all i can see is carbon sludge all over the internal engine wall.......now have seen more than 10 cars overhaul at that service center........good luck to those who uses synthetic oil for 10000km...prepare lots of money after your 7th cycle for you know what....MAJOR OVERHAUL.... biggrin.gif
*
Hmmmm... I'm not really sure about this coz i change my engine oil every 10,000km or 4~5 months whichever comes 1st... My bro n me been doing this for quite sometime now... My bro car has already reach 120,000km in the span of 3 years n still haven't need to do any overhauling ler from the sludge thingy or whutever... My 1st car reach 100,000km milage too b4 i sold it n it never needed to overhaul b4... My current car is now at 40,000km n still ticking..

I think maybe it depends on the oil quality n how frequent u change type of lubricants during ur car lifetime... be mindful also that everytime u change ur engine oils not all of the dirt and grimes would come out with the dirty engine oils.. Some may still be in ur engine so it is not suprising to find sludge etc in ur engine..

My job involve with dealings in the petroleum sector n i had talked with a few engineers from oil company's like caltex n petronas n they all advise against the habit of frequent changing of oil brand/grade/type n such.. They say if u really wanted to change u should atleast use the same brand/type/grade for a while (maybe after 3 service periods) only after then u can try other brands/type/grade. No engine oils are made alike in terms of formula n such.. n u can't really see/feel any diff with just one time trial service using a specific brand/type/grade... Sometimes it takes a longer period to see the difference.. Maybe after 2-3 service period..
micwin1437
post Apr 27 2007, 09:07 AM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,197 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Klang Town/Kuching/Miri



QUOTE(cloudwan @ Apr 27 2007, 01:22 AM)
Hmmmm... I'm not really sure about this coz i change my engine oil every 10,000km or 4~5 months whichever comes 1st... My bro n me been doing this for quite sometime now... My bro car has already reach 120,000km in the span of 3 years n still haven't need to do any overhauling ler from the sludge thingy or whutever... My 1st car reach 100,000km milage too b4 i sold it n it never needed to overhaul b4... My current car is now at 40,000km n still ticking..

I think maybe it depends on the oil quality n how frequent u change type of lubricants during ur car lifetime... be mindful also that everytime u change ur engine oils not all of the dirt and grimes would come out with the dirty engine oils.. Some may still be in ur engine so it is not suprising to find sludge etc in ur engine..

My job involve with dealings in the petroleum sector n i had talked with a few engineers from oil company's like caltex n petronas n they all advise against the habit of frequent changing of oil brand/grade/type n such.. They say if u really wanted to change u should atleast use the same brand/type/grade for a while (maybe after 3 service periods) only after then u can try other brands/type/grade. No engine oils are made alike in terms of formula n such.. n u can't really see/feel any diff with just one time trial service using a specific brand/type/grade... Sometimes it takes a longer period to see the difference.. Maybe after 2-3 service period..
*
i know that your car you driving is still can drive but do you look inside the engine, even with sludge your car is still drivable mah.

btw those car i say are regular service at 10000km interval and either using fully synthetic oil from petronas or caltex.

the major issue here is that test done by major oil manufacturer on fully sythetic and the test show that this oil can last more than 10000km of use but you must know that they are doing the test in a control enviroment/lab that is stable temperature and humidity whereas we are driving in variable condition.

eone
post Apr 27 2007, 09:10 AM

Prime
*******
Senior Member
2,678 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: PutraCyberjaya



just followed the sticker
benzene88
post Apr 27 2007, 09:11 AM

Anonymity
*******
Senior Member
2,384 posts

Joined: Aug 2006
From: 60.52.185.91

QUOTE(eone @ Apr 27 2007, 09:10 AM)
just followed the sticker
*
same here... when the time comes just leave it to the mechanic..
Nothing Better To Do
post Apr 27 2007, 09:39 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
297 posts

Joined: Apr 2007
From: Infront of my PC


full-syn every 5000 as prescribed by the manufacturer.
Dannyl
post Apr 27 2007, 10:21 AM

what the fucuk-yimai
*******
Senior Member
6,113 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Pokey Oaks



QUOTE(micwin1437 @ Apr 27 2007, 09:07 AM)
i know that your car you driving is still can drive but do you look inside the engine, even with sludge your car is still drivable mah.

btw those car i say are regular service at 10000km interval and either using fully synthetic oil from petronas or caltex.

the major issue here is that test done by major oil manufacturer on fully sythetic and the test show that this oil can last more than 10000km of use but you must know that they are doing the test in a control enviroment/lab that is stable temperature and humidity whereas we are driving in variable condition.
*
Here's a thread from another forum which supports what micwin1437 said. Old thread but still very much applicable. Or maybe the threadstarter and micwin143 are the same person...?
http://www.autoworld.com.my/forum/allposts...%27nuff+said%3F
TSSleeplessEyes
post May 11 2007, 04:50 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,429 posts

Joined: Feb 2007

zNiPeR
post May 11 2007, 05:13 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
307 posts

Joined: Oct 2005
From: kuala lumpur



egiewan
post May 11 2007, 05:28 PM

aL-|ncognito
*******
Senior Member
6,777 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Wangsa Melawati, Kuala Lumpur




zNiPeR
post May 11 2007, 05:39 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
307 posts

Joined: Oct 2005
From: kuala lumpur


QUOTE(egiewan @ May 11 2007, 05:28 PM)
Hey I'm using Idemitsu as well icon_rolleyes.gif I change every 3 months...coz when weekend breaks I will hantam the car abit. Somemore I often drive short trips only so the engine oil will get dirty easier smile.gif
*
hehe...u sure ar u hantam every weekend? brows.gif how about weeknights? tongue.gif
egiewan
post May 11 2007, 05:48 PM

aL-|ncognito
*******
Senior Member
6,777 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Wangsa Melawati, Kuala Lumpur




SUSceo684
post May 11 2007, 06:18 PM

Component Burner
********
All Stars
11,667 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Klang/Subang




QUOTE(ultrageek1 @ Apr 23 2007, 10:16 AM)
Well, both of you are right, in your own way!

For the SC, well, there's that funny reason! And it depends on how strict they wanna be. Obviously it's difficult to follow the 3 months thingy due to work, etc commitments right?
For you, you are right when you said that you have only used so much. But try to follow the every 3 month rule tho (for warranty purposes). Even yours truly when i had my kancil, as most of the time @ LRT station, my problem was like yours. Although I didn't really want to change, at the end, warranty mattered more. After the warranty is over... smile.gif

For me, as i'm driving a FIAT, am on Selenia 20K, so i only change the engine oil once a year, as i'll hardly reach 20K or even 10K a year! But I DO change my oil filter regularly every 3 months or so...
The idiots @ Torino even though am using 20K will STILL tell you to come and change every 3 months! Dumb!!! But most will tell you, if you're on fully synth, you can stretch it BUT change your filter regularly...

Just my opinion.
*
Once activated/opened, a pack of fresh milk will go bad faster than expiry date whether u drink a sip or half the packet

Engine oil once activated it turns acidic over time, thats why u need to change every 3 months cos it starts to breakdown on exposure to heat etc
cheeann
post Jun 25 2007, 02:39 AM

I love my suggie~
*******
Senior Member
9,799 posts

Joined: Feb 2007



who wan 2 service their car's engine oil,oil filter or gear oil at ur own time without making appointment n wait long Q? jus give me a pm,ok?
KeV
post Jun 25 2007, 08:52 AM

www.kampar.net
Group Icon
VIP
6,758 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Sunway
i just recently serviced my car in shell autoserv, due to unexpected breakdown from power steering pump.

i was using petronas fully syn, few services before it and decided to try this shell helix ultra on 30,000km

remarkably, i found out that, its much easier to accelerate and i could hit 180 km/h way faster than on petronas, guess engine oil does make a difference. i have better fc on the same journey, even though i hentam at 180, haha

good thing about shell autoserv is that, there's wifi while u wait and u can order food from nearby mamak stall and get it delivered to ur place, first class! plus the cleaniness of the place is appealing. the one i went to was the one located next to carrefour kepong, i hope that helps

This post has been edited by KeV: Jun 25 2007, 08:53 AM
kcng
post Jun 25 2007, 09:25 AM

~ Or@ng Giler ~
********
Senior Member
17,566 posts

Joined: Jan 2005
From: FFK Division - Klang



QUOTE(KeV @ Jun 25 2007, 08:52 AM)
i just recently serviced my car in shell autoserv, due to unexpected breakdown from power steering pump.

i was using petronas fully syn, few services before it and decided to try this shell helix ultra on 30,000km

remarkably, i found out that, its much easier to accelerate and i could hit 180 km/h way faster than on petronas, guess engine oil does make a difference. i have better fc on the same journey, even though i hentam at 180, haha

good thing about shell autoserv is that, there's wifi while u wait and u can order food from nearby mamak stall and get it delivered to ur place, first class! plus the cleaniness of the place is appealing. the one i went to was the one located next to carrefour kepong, i hope that helps
*
where is that place?

been using petronas 800 and having my service done at every 10k......
and not having any issue with that.....
KeV
post Jun 25 2007, 09:40 AM

www.kampar.net
Group Icon
VIP
6,758 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Sunway
theres lots of shell autoserv around klang valley. only the one, i went in kepong is my friend, next to carrefour but he's gonna quit and move on to a perodua service centre, hehe

rm218 includes lots of things

shell helix ultra oil change
tyre balancing
36 point car checkup
nitrogen tyres fill up
free car wash
free gift, tool kit box
free oil filter change

basically a good deal under this package biggrin.gif
kev da man
post Jun 25 2007, 09:46 AM

super lurker
********
All Stars
15,278 posts

Joined: Jan 2003


QUOTE(cactuscch @ Apr 23 2007, 10:04 AM)
Actually this question has been bothering me.

The engine oil maintenance period of Myvi is 5000km or 3 months, whichever comes first. Since the distance between office and house is small, my mileage usually will reach only <2000km 3 months after the last service.

About a month ago I went to back Perodua service center to have my aircond checked and the counter staff found out that i've passed the 3-month service period (actually it's 3 months and 2 weeks). She strongly advised me to change the engine oil even though my mileage is just about 1500km (because of chinese new year I became a passenger, not a driver). I argued with her that it doesn't make sense because the engine oil is still 'clean' and the mileage was hardly near 5000km.

She couldn't give me any solid reason and at last she showed the 'maintenance book' to me and said '5000km or 3 months, whichever comes first is written in this book, we have to send this record to head office so that when you claim for warranty, they can make sure that your vehicle is properly maintained on schedule'. I kept arguing my point and I refused to change the engine oil until now.

Who is right, who is wrong? I believe many car owners have this kind of experience before.
*
QUOTE(ultrageek1 @ Apr 23 2007, 10:16 AM)
Well, both of you are right, in your own way!

For the SC, well, there's that funny reason! And it depends on how strict they wanna be. Obviously it's difficult to follow the 3 months thingy due to work, etc commitments right?
For you, you are right when you said that you have only used so much. But try to follow the every 3 month rule tho (for warranty purposes). Even yours truly when i had my kancil, as most of the time @ LRT station, my problem was like yours. Although I didn't really want to change, at the end, warranty mattered more. After the warranty is over... smile.gif

For me, as i'm driving a FIAT, am on Selenia 20K, so i only change the engine oil once a year, as i'll hardly reach 20K or even 10K a year! But I DO change my oil filter regularly every 3 months or so...
The idiots @ Torino even though am using 20K will STILL tell you to come and change every 3 months! Dumb!!! But most will tell you, if you're on fully synth, you can stretch it BUT change your filter regularly...

Just my opinion.
*
oil degrades. that's why its a 5000km/3 months period. after 3 months the lube properties will slowly degrade, and might not be able to properly lube and cool the engine.
ericjeff
post Jun 25 2007, 11:23 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
236 posts

Joined: Apr 2006


mayb i driving an old car, doesn't change at shell autoserv. their service is good.

last time around there is a salesman selling a package of RM 25 with 8car wash, 36-point health check, nitro gas in my tyre.(if i'm not mistaken). everytime i drive my car to wash, they serve me very well. ask me about coffee also. haha ^^

but the packages seems a bit expensive for me, while i only use the Castrol around RM 60 for changing my engine oil, oil filter only cost me about RM 10. i change it after 5,000 km. but i will check the oil condition also. coz my dad said no need to wait 5,000km, sometimes engine oil wil become bad in use before the mileage.......depends actually.
shinjite
post Jun 25 2007, 01:34 PM

�ŞħĬΩĵΐŦ��
********
All Stars
19,321 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Klang


mine every 3 months now or 5000km if I manage to cover it due to my tripmeter rosak
thom_chai
post Jun 25 2007, 01:39 PM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,830 posts

Joined: Nov 2004


QUOTE(shinjite @ Jun 25 2007, 01:34 PM)
mine every 3 months now or 5000km if I manage to cover it due to my tripmeter rosak
*
Go fix teh trip meter!!!


tongue.gif

5 Pages « < 2 3 4 5 >Top
 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0619sec    0.53    6 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 16th December 2025 - 11:42 PM