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post Nov 7 2017, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Nov 7 2017, 04:29 PM)
Not going to argue on his character because I do not know him. Nor am I supporting him, because what I am doing is just giving that guy a balance against what I feel are very emotional but unusable accusations.

When you say 'proper' way to break a master franchise agreement, I faintly recall that Chatime franchisor was the one that went on the offensive by coming to Malaysia to terminate the agreement and tried a takeover? I got it from articles that was written during the time of the hoohaa. Not sure what was Chatimes reasoning, but who was the one that went on the offensive first?

And I have to agree on the ROI portion. But that makes it even more so interesting that people with lots to lose are willing to follow this guy, friends or not.
Everything doesn't add up to what is said against him :confused:
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He is a go-getter for sure and a formidable person with a willingness to take short cut and unethical approaches. I.e. using cheaper ingredients when he already had agreement with chatime to use theirs and steal the existing chatime shops to his tealive brand.

I think loo already made the first move by undercutting chatime supplier and not paying his master franchise agreement. That is the first true move. Given his cunning, i bet he already planned to execute this move from the start.

Chatime was never really a franchise. He only allowed close business partners, friends and relatives to invest. The rest, he open himself, with help of his rich father.

Sure, he can survive now that he has a monopoly. Time will only tell whether business close down or expands. Me personally, I think it will eventually close down. I cant see how selling oversaturated bubble tea can operate in so many shops and locations. The high labour cost, shop rental and logistics involved will just kill tealive. How does one maintain their quality and standards? It's just not sustainable.

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post Nov 7 2017, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(geolee76 @ Nov 7 2017, 04:57 PM)
chatime actually alive also. main franchisor gives to another franchise...

so I am waiting both chatime and tealive open next to each other.. HHahahahahhhah this will be epic
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im actually waiting for that too.. will be another viral news haha
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post Nov 7 2017, 05:09 PM

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where to buy this?
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post Nov 7 2017, 05:19 PM

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is it just me or Tealive owner face expression/style is the same as the famous Dato Seri?
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post Nov 7 2017, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Nov 7 2017, 04:29 PM)
Not going to argue on his character because I do not know him. Nor am I supporting him, because what I am doing is just giving that guy a balance against what I feel are very emotional but unusable accusations.

When you say 'proper' way to break a master franchise agreement, I faintly recall that Chatime franchisor was the one that went on the offensive by coming to Malaysia to terminate the agreement and tried a takeover? I got it from articles that was written during the time of the hoohaa. Not sure what was Chatimes reasoning, but who was the one that went on the offensive first?

And I have to agree on the ROI portion. But that makes it even more so interesting that people with lots to lose are willing to follow this guy, friends or not.
Everything doesn't add up to what is said against him :confused:
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chatime came to msia to takeover is bcos loob using 3rd party ingredients n breaking the contract, its loob who started it, loob is very unethical, they use 3rd party ingredients but still wan act innocent then come out open tealive

u can say its loob who brought up chatime, but a contract is a contract and loob have to honour it even if it means paying more for chatime ingrrdients instead of cheaper 3rd party ingredients, but this is how franchise operates, cannot complain, and loob decided to break the trust given to him by chatime


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post Nov 7 2017, 05:35 PM

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post Nov 7 2017, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(ironmaid89 @ Nov 7 2017, 11:36 AM)
Not yet dead but they are expand to Vietnam


They are hiring too

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Malaysian pride. Lol.
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post Nov 7 2017, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(the99percent1 @ Nov 7 2017, 04:54 PM)
He is a go-getter for sure and a formidable person with a willingness to take short cut and unethical approaches.  I.e. using cheaper ingredients when he already had agreement with chatime to use theirs and steal the existing chatime shops to his tealive brand.

I think loo already made the first move by undercutting chatime supplier and not paying his master franchise agreement. That is the first true move. Given his cunning, i bet he already planned to execute this move from the start.

Chatime was never really a franchise. He only allowed close business partners, friends and relatives to invest. The rest, he open himself, with help of his rich father.

Sure, he can survive now that he has a monopoly. Time will only tell whether business close down or expands. Me personally, I think it will eventually close down. I cant see how selling oversaturated bubble tea can operate in so many shops and locations. The high labour cost, shop rental and logistics involved will just kill tealive. How does one maintain their quality and standards? It's just not sustainable.
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QUOTE(Remy101 @ Nov 7 2017, 05:09 PM)
where to buy this?
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very simple question , who brought this in last time and when did it start being available?
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post Nov 7 2017, 08:46 PM

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I thought chatime is tealive? Different meh? I just had superior coco yesterday, i can't tell the difference between chatime and tealive
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post Nov 7 2017, 08:48 PM

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Tealive one utama got pipul always beratur liao
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post Nov 7 2017, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Nov 7 2017, 08:34 PM)
very simple question , who brought this in last time and when did it start being available?
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Chatime tw brought it to supermarkets. No contract is broken.

I doubt Loo has full control on all chatime products that can be sold or not. He only bubble-tea shop franchise holder. He doesnt hold any exclusivity for all products.

So again, Loo is the one who made the first move to cut the franchise.
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QUOTE(komunis @ Nov 7 2017, 05:45 PM)
his family kaya raya sapu roti 1. He ada problem also can settle 1. Tealive open only straight sudah boleh dapat halal. When chatime tak dapat also.
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He bought from local supplier, you say leh.

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post Nov 7 2017, 09:09 PM

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nowadays tealive every month got buy 1 free 1 laugh.gif
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post Nov 7 2017, 09:09 PM

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Tealive sucks, prefer chatime.
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post Nov 7 2017, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(and85rew @ Nov 7 2017, 11:42 AM)
not gonna support this unethical TL
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Indeed, stealing in day light yet still got ppl supork?? I try their drinks, tasteless
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post Nov 7 2017, 09:12 PM

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oh shid.... not this subject matter again....
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post Nov 7 2017, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(the99percent1 @ Nov 7 2017, 09:05 PM)
Chatime tw brought it to supermarkets. No contract is broken.

I doubt Loo has full control on all chatime products that can be sold or not. He only bubble-tea shop franchise holder. He doesnt hold any exclusivity for all products.

So again, Loo is the one who made the first move to cut the franchise.
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thats why la..sendiri start selling in supermarket. sure its not a franchise contract but it means it has its own expansion plan la. so now end up both team also kaput and will never be as big as its peak time.
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post Nov 8 2017, 08:05 AM

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Gong Cha in Singapore also have similar issue.


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