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post Aug 15 2008, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(surehit @ Aug 15 2008, 10:15 AM)
Dat's the real world lar bud. Hope you're not confusing STALKER with the Ranger sniping school - hoo ah.  brows.gif BTW, Stalker had a sneak system? :confused:

Well, I didn't play so far to reach/get the Gauss Rifle part. Remember this is playing for "retro" sake. Just to fill time till F3 arrive.  whistling.gif
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Yeah, STALKER has a sneak system, albeit an extremely broken one at that. On the bottom left of your screen you have your stance indicator (walking, half-crouch, full-crouch), and flanking that indicator are two bars - one for the noise you're making and the other for how bright you are (as in light source, not intellect). Those two are supposed to determine your sneaking success like Ghost Recon or Metal Gear Solid. THing is, enemies in STALKER are all psychics - they immediately turn around and fire the moment you get within a couple feet's distance. Guess the radiation mutated their normal brains and senses huh?

As for the gauss rifle, I can't live without one. Seriously. I tried the laser sniper rifle and hated every bit of it (mainly the part where the body disintegrates). I have put FO2 to the rest permanently when I found out that all I do in a new game is to hike south to get power armor and gauss rifle, then proceed to terrorize New Reno and Vault City. The way I played the game gave myself the chills. I feel that I am turning into a terrorist soon. I'm afraid. I want to kill people. Don't... let... me... kill...

Help...

Hee.....lppppppppppppppp....

Or at least that's what Video Game Violence pundits want me to think. laugh.gif

Screw that. Vault City, here I come! (Not in a good way)
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post Aug 15 2008, 11:35 PM

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QUOTE(RangerKarl @ Aug 15 2008, 04:36 PM)
The Laser Rifle doesn't disintegrate, not in the original games. It cuts the other guy in half biggrin.gif and doesn't release the target's inventory like pulse weapons or explosive deaths. I'm thinking of playing a h2h only game (knuckles at first, then kung fu later). Should be fun...
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Sorry, I must have been confused. Was never a big fan of energy weapons.

I tried hand-to-hand before. As a kung fu expert. Freaking hard to play man... but you get a lot of nice moves. biggrin.gif
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post Aug 17 2008, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(zioburosky13 @ Aug 17 2008, 12:17 PM)
Melee character has 2 choices of 'uber' weapon - Super sledgehammer and Powerfist.

Use them to hit kids in their groin.  ph34r.gif
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But at the price of not having the Haymaker. Kung Fu master still sounds cooler than a guy with a powered fist. Super slegehammer is just... primitive. Yuck.

Still, gauss rifle is much more fun. Bang, splat, half a torso gone. YUM.

Combat really gets satisfying when you reach the Sniper perk. biggrin.gif
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post Aug 25 2008, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(Hmmz213 @ Aug 25 2008, 06:31 AM)
[SIZE=7]BEEN WAITING THIS GAME 10 FREAKING YEARS DE! FINALLY ITS COMING OUT.. WOOO! OCTOBER 2008 BABBEEH  brows.gif

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You read the previews yet? It's no longer the fallout you knew.
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post Aug 27 2008, 06:44 AM

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QUOTE(Hmmz213 @ Aug 27 2008, 06:03 AM)
Yeap.. Fallout needs to move on man.. Yea Soggie I heard alot bout that. Been seeing progression for fallout3 for a very long time. Although reviews might put that Bethesda don't deserve to take the Fallout license.. but I willing to give them a chance cause I really didn't like Interplay's project on Fallout3 (VanBuren). That is why it went into scraps in the first place. The only thing that I'm praying for is that Bethesda get to implement the Fallout atmosphere into the game.... u noe wut I mean.
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In Interplay's defense, they ran out of money. Nothing to do with van buren. Remember the original Fallout basically fell off everybody's radars (a lot of hard core fans remember getting it from the bargain bins)? Didn't do much for FO2 too. And too many people pirating it. That's how it led to the demise of one of the greatest game ever.

As for Beth, oh you bet, they've got the looks of the wasteland in. The only thing that they didn't is the inclusion of the stick-actors from Oblivion. And the questionable credibility of their capability in writing believable and engaging dialogues. And oh, did I mention how FO3 previews nowadays are centered around exploding nuclear cars, super bio-hazard-like mutants and get-shot-in-the-head-and-get-your-limbs-ripped-off kind of quirky physics? Yeah, it is no longer the Fallout you remembered.
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post Aug 27 2008, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(Fyonne @ Aug 27 2008, 10:41 AM)
powerfist is unarmed.
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You sure? I thought powerfist is melee?

You're right. Powered Fist IS melee. Damn, I didn't know!!! Kept fighting bare hands only.

But haymaker sounds so much nicer than powered fist tongue.gif
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post Aug 29 2008, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(Hmmz213 @ Aug 29 2008, 12:31 PM)
Well for a fallout fan u do that we wouldn't like to have a different perspective on the fallout world cause its is already so flawlessly perfect for F1 and F2. To really pull it off using FPS require a really brilliant  mastermind.
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Actually, I kind of dreaded the fights in big cities (e.g. New Reno) because it'd take eons before I get to move again. But I loved every single part of it. FPS changed everything. Just put it this way - turn Final Fantasy Tactics or Ogre Tactics into a real-time 3D squad-based game and call it FF Tactics 2 or something. See if the fans are ecstatic about it.
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QUOTE(Enclave Recruit @ Aug 29 2008, 04:17 PM)
I kinda like fights in New Reno since I get to see hookers and drug addicts kill each other (provoke someone into spraying an automatic weapon into a crowd). When I get bored, I'll just vaporize/shred/burn/stab everyone to death. Maximum violence at its best smile.gif. As for the FPS perspective, I hope someone from the modding community will whip up an isometric mod. Plus I think the Lady Killer/Black Widow perk is silly since the original Fallout's gameplay was never about gender preferences. They should exclude that from the final product.

Anyone seen a Turbo Plasma Rifle in the game?? I want to turn people into red goo...
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Ugh. Don't even mention the hookers and addicts. They dont kill each other - they run away, and HELL they have crazy AP for that!!!! Freaking Jet addicts sure run like a roadrunner on beep beep juice when facing the barrel of a gun!
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post Sep 15 2008, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(Topace111 @ Aug 31 2008, 06:51 PM)
Every gamers have a similar prefrence / interest on "post-apocalyptic" ambience in games :
Stalker : Although it was riddled with bugs & outdated graphics but the atmosphere is "the core factor" that it was  well received among gamers worlwide (especially eastern europe)

Call of Duty 4 : Surprised isn't it. surveys on several websites which enquire about gamer's favourite chapter & guess what they all vote
for the "Chernobyl chapter" where the protagonist wanders around an abandoned city with radiation all around the place.

Maybe both games are inspired from Fallout series (who knows ??).
Lets see whether F03 can eclipse or even beats the 2 above.
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I'm sure Fallout 3 will beat both games... if their target audiences are farmers who have a fetish for scarecrow-like stiff animations.
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post Sep 18 2008, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(Mr_Hulk @ Sep 17 2008, 11:24 PM)
you miss the point that this games is RPG games. The most important thing in RPG is the storyline. Even fallout 3 look like fallout 2, i still gonna play it anyway.LOL.

I hope i can ride two-head cow rather than a car. that will be awesome.

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I want that shirt!

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You'd think Beth could write something even remotely coherent? Oblivion's one piece of boring literature.
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post Sep 22 2008, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(cracksys @ Sep 22 2008, 09:20 PM)
if you're really interested, maybe you'd want to read from someone who apparently been playing 10hours of FO3 drool.gif

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Megaton. Megaton. Beth PR lines. I love F3. Game of the year. Nope, never played F1 and F2 before. It's really nice. Action and consequences. VATS really fun. Megaton. Megaton.

My arse if he did played 10 hours. More like regurgitating preview facts than actual play time.
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post Oct 1 2008, 06:40 PM

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Check this out. Fix a crippled head with a stimpak. Nice. You don't need doctor skill anymore. Dip yourself in radiation and then flush it out of your system with Rad-X. Voila! Gained capability to regenerate crippled limbs. No more crippled limbs anymore. Finds a sniper rifle early in the game. Wow, how balanced. Bought a fatman launcher in the marketplace. IN THE MARKETPLACE???

Man, my enthusiasm is fading fast...
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post Oct 2 2008, 01:57 AM

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QUOTE(Enclave Recruit @ Oct 1 2008, 07:03 PM)
WHOA...so now they openly sell nukes in the marketplace. I thought it's supposed to be kinda rare in F3. Man this is getting ridiculous...
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Yeah. In Rivet City. Kinda like New Reno. This is just ridiculous. Imagine how easy boss fights would be.
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post Oct 6 2008, 10:34 PM

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Let's call fallout 3 as FINO3 (Fallout In Name Only). tongue.gif
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post Oct 14 2008, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Oct 13 2008, 11:36 PM)
endless arguments. doh.gif
play before you comment. other than that, all the talks, hypes and anti-hypes are empty and bs.
pics, videos, previews, books, mags...are all others' opinions.
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actually, the whole idea of teaser videos and gameplay videos is to let you gauge the game so that you'll be making an informed decision when playing the game. So far, the action part of the game is horrible. Horrible voice acting, amateurish animation and horrible immersion. That's what ANYBODY can get from the videos without playing the game at all.

You don't have to jump off a skyscraper to know how falling feels like, my friend.
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QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Oct 15 2008, 12:26 AM)
teasers can only make fans jump or whine. it is a marketing gimmick  to attract more attention from the public.

the falling part, you have to if u are gonna experience free fall..jumping from 3m or imagined that you jumped...based on that, it is not real experience of jumping off a skyscraper. you will have to actually try bungy jump to feel what it is really like for free fall over great heights with massive winds blowing your whole body. well, if you understand what i am trying to say. it is a different thing.

btw, cracksys, regarding your theory: as a smart consumer, you can actually go to shops to try out the phones with reference to the reviews. and make your own decision whether or not it is worth your money. same goes with games, there's always (well, most likely for most famous games) a demo available for "test-drive" purpose. and then, you can have all the freedom to choose whether or not to buy the game. as simple as that.

no offense, but empty judges are just so immature. just relax and wait.
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Spike, you ever played the previous fallouts? Check this out:

1) in fallout 3, a BOS paladin says this to you "Steel be with you"
2) when fighting, a BOS paladin goes "To Arms, brothers, to Arms!"
3) Super mutants firing rifles (wow, suddenly in the East coast they evolved smaller fingers?)

These are just small things my friend. Let's forget about the analogies for now. I guess I failed to portray my point correctly with it.

But for the 3 points, maybe it's nothing for you, but for me, it's no longer absurd. It's way beyond that.
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QUOTE(Enclave Recruit @ Oct 15 2008, 10:42 AM)
If the AI is as idiotic as the ones shown in the videos, then that will probably make this game a crappy shooter as well. So in a nutshell, you'll have a crappy shooter with mediocre role playing elements which is a far cry from it's predecessors.
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Actually I have nothing good to say about Fallout's AI either, so the new AI isn't going to be something stopping me from getting the game (there are other more serious ones...). In the old Fallout, enemies rush straight towards you, guns blazing. Combat in the old fallout series are more exploit than tactical, I must admit tongue.gif. The RPG elements are supposed to make the game interesting - combat is only a side effect.
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QUOTE(cracksys @ Oct 15 2008, 10:01 PM)
that's why when the game actually leaked, they practically praying that people do uninformed decision when buying their game.

Fallout 3 are made for console kiddies. if it's hard, Beth will make it easier so that you won't die or miss any chance. they even put an automatic cheat in the game so that you won't get hit by other enemy while it goes slow-mo

the first choice that you had to make is whether to destroy Megaton or not. either way, you'll get a "home" as base.

oh my god, choice and consequence at work!
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Yeah. I would have loved it if the player, if he decides not to blow megaton up, gets a room in megaton, but then after proceeding along with the storyline he would be captured by the antagonists in his house. Turns out that the sheriff sold him out to save megaton.

And then, if the player had blew it up, tenpenny tower would actually inform the player well ahead that somebody's after him and he would be able to take measures and skip the whole segment of the game that involves him losing all equipment and have to escape from the antagonists' capture.

That's a nice surprise of gray over there - save somebody only to get betrayed; or be a bad guy and have somebody watch over your ass instead. And that would totally rock.

And for Arefu, that's just a rip off from FO2's slags quest.


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QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Oct 15 2008, 09:59 PM)
yes, i've played fallout2. and it is just not my game despite the creative innovations. hoping beth would shape things up. i will only post my rants here once I've got my hands on. laugh.gif
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Then maybe deep RPGs are not your cup of tea. Nothing wrong with that, I have friends who swear upon JRPGs (*couch cough bueekkkkkk), and there are a few who would never go near Diablo with a ten feet pole.

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QUOTE(frags @ Oct 16 2008, 01:34 PM)
Ze french hate ze game! This seems to support my sneaking suspicions about the game....

http://www.nma-fallout.com/article.php?id=45725

English is a bit off...its translated from french.
Guys...forget about fallout. I think if you want a proper RPG you should look out for Dragon Age....imho that the only hope of a proper RPG!
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post Oct 16 2008, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(maeka @ Oct 16 2008, 05:09 PM)
i dunno about u guys, good or bad im still getting it...

i do know that i really hate OBLIVION VERRY MUCH. it sucks big time.
(not to mention the review rating is 8.0 out of 10.)

still balthesa say they try not to repeat their mistake..

i am going to discover it on my own..
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How about this. They facked up Morrowind by dumbing down Daggerfall. Then they facked up Oblivion by dumbing down Morrowind. Wanna bet what they'll be doing to Fallout 3?

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