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post Oct 29 2017, 08:35 PM

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Import food will have permit, halal, transport and storage cost.
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post Oct 29 2017, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Oct 29 2017, 07:55 PM)
dairy product damn expensive

i almost flip table when i saw supermarket selling two 1L carton of milk for rm18... and claiming it is a promotion..
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wtf......Japan fresh milk only cost like RM5 for a litre laugh.gif
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post Oct 29 2017, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(quadcube @ Oct 29 2017, 08:51 PM)
wtf......Japan fresh milk only cost like RM5 for a litre laugh.gif
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Japan actually have a dairy industry (concentrated in Hokkaido), though it's not in a good shape atm.

You want cheaper milk here, need to open up Sabah/Sarawak vast open spaces to dairy farming for a real effort.
Anything done in Peninsula is a half-cooked effort, imo. It won't fill local demand, almost zero chance for regional export potential.
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post Oct 29 2017, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(quadcube @ Oct 29 2017, 08:51 PM)
wtf......Japan fresh milk only cost like RM5 for a litre laugh.gif
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Deswai japunis growing taller while msian getting shorter

How many kids can even get the recommended daily allowance of calcium to grow.. All they eat are carbs lel

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post Oct 29 2017, 09:12 PM

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Cos gays buying more butter than ever now.
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post Oct 29 2017, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(Grock @ Oct 29 2017, 07:36 PM)
Malaysia ada lembu susu?
Nama Saya Grock.
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In Sabah got Desa Dairy farm


Nama saya kinowerty
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post Oct 29 2017, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Oct 29 2017, 07:55 PM)
dairy product damn expensive

i almost flip table when i saw supermarket selling two 1L carton of milk for rm18... and claiming it is a promotion..
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2 carton rm18?
where?
that is cheap.
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post Oct 29 2017, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(stormcloud @ Oct 29 2017, 09:04 PM)
Japan actually have a dairy industry (concentrated in Hokkaido), though it's not in a good shape atm.

You want cheaper milk here, need to open up Sabah/Sarawak vast open spaces to dairy farming for a real effort.
Anything done in Peninsula is a half-cooked effort, imo. It won't fill local demand, almost zero chance for regional export potential.
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Farm Fresh is local brand rite?

Price still expensive wor.
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post Oct 29 2017, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(St0rmFury @ Oct 29 2017, 09:31 PM)
Farm Fresh is local brand rite?

Price still expensive wor.
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But delicious lo
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post Oct 29 2017, 09:40 PM

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Makanan dairy bukan budaya kita. Also most butter are imported and u should know that ringgit yang lemah baik untuk eksport bukan import.
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post Oct 29 2017, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(stormcloud @ Oct 29 2017, 09:04 PM)
Japan actually have a dairy industry (concentrated in Hokkaido), though it's not in a good shape atm.

You want cheaper milk here, need to open up Sabah/Sarawak vast open spaces to dairy farming for a real effort.
Anything done in Peninsula is a half-cooked effort, imo. It won't fill local demand, almost zero chance for regional export potential.
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oh, didn't know their dairy industry is in a bad shape. I did notice most of the milk packaging has some hokkaido name written on them

Sabah Desa fresh milk is also not cheap IMO, I think it's around rm6-8 if my memory still serves me right..gosh i miss their chocolate milk sad.gif
Am not too familiar with dairy industry in Malaysia but I guess now you mentioned it then it's pretty obvious when there's only 2~4 brands of fresh milk in the local supermarket

QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Oct 29 2017, 09:09 PM)
Deswai japunis growing taller while msian getting shorter

How many kids can even get the recommended daily allowance of calcium to grow.. All they eat are carbs lel
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milk here in JP so cheap, it's like drinking mineral water or beer (beer is so damn cheap wub.gif ) sweat.gif if 100 yen was RM1 (normally that how I convert it mentally), milk only cost RM1.2 per litre laugh.gif couldn't afford to drink fresh milk frequently when I was doing my undergrad in KK, but here in JP, I can consume a litre of milk every two day

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cheese too
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post Oct 29 2017, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(St0rmFury @ Oct 29 2017, 09:31 PM)
Farm Fresh is local brand rite?
Price still expensive wor.
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Yep - http://www.farmfresh.com.my/the-farm-fresh-story/
Expensive because supply and demand. Plus they have little competition in terms of local dairy farmers.
Their main competitors are imported milk. I think it's relatively easy to be profitable once you sort out the marketing & supply chain and streamline production.

To get reasonable prices for milk and cheese, more locals need to get into dairy farming. Competition always drive prices down (up to a point).

Just some random Googling:

Malaysia imports 95% of its milk needs but doesn’t develop local farmers for self sufficiency
https://rama4change.wordpress.com/2012/09/2...lf-sufficiency/

Gov't to set up board to milk M'sia's dairy industry potential
https://sir.nst.com.my/news/2017/03/219740/...ustry-potential

To comment on the NST:
Malaysian Dairy Board formation in 2018 is a start. Better late than never. The board itself is useless (only good for setting standards and theory work). In terms of implementatiotn, what they really need is an agricultural school (like this example) that focuses exclusively on dairy farming. Our dairy industry is at an infant stage, more skills/knowledge are needed than monetary investments. You need the school to churn out skilled farmers and farm helpers. This will help sustain the industry.
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QUOTE(quadcube @ Oct 29 2017, 09:56 PM)
oh, didn't know their dairy industry is in a bad shape. I did notice most of the milk packaging has some hokkaido name written on them

Sabah Desa fresh milk is also not cheap IMO, I think it's around rm6-8 if my memory still serves me right..gosh i miss their chocolate milk sad.gif
Am not too familiar with dairy industry in Malaysia but I guess now you mentioned it then it's pretty obvious when there's only 2~4 brands of fresh milk in the local supermarket
milk here in JP so cheap, it's like drinking mineral water or beer (beer is so damn cheap wub.gif ) sweat.gif if 100 yen was RM1 (normally that how I convert it mentally), milk only cost RM1.2 per litre laugh.gif couldn't afford to drink fresh milk frequently when I was doing my undergrad in KK, but here in JP, I can consume a litre of milk every two day
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Not lactose intolerant meh? Most Asian cannot drink milk one
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QUOTE(jfleong @ Oct 29 2017, 07:35 PM)
Talking about real butter, not premium fat spread , those mixed with palm oil/ other veggie oil
100% butter
A small block costs so much, but it's considered a basic food in other countries, costing them very little

Price of 1 kg butter, cheapest
Tesco UK RM 32.30
Tesco Malaysia RM 42.45
Coles AU RM 31.61
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Malaysia doesn’t produce own dairy product.
You can thank NFC and Sharizat for failing to fix that.
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post Oct 29 2017, 10:11 PM

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dairy products expensive as a results of mismanaged country that unable to compete in terms of currency strength internationally. To say weaker currency is good for export is an lousy excuse.
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QUOTE(:3mushy:3 @ Oct 29 2017, 07:58 PM)
Dairy product is expensive here because of low supply high entry barrier into the market.

Similarly, you'll shit brick when you see the prices of Malaysian spices or fruits overseas.
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In Australia standard price for milk is AUD1 per litre, which translates to RM3.40 per litre.

Sometimes I crave Malaysian food so I buy those premade spice mix = AUD2 per packet, translating to RM6.80 per packet. Over here, they are selling the same thing for RM5+, so only RM2 difference or AUD0.65.

For fruits, I pay AUD2.50(RM8) per kg for pink lady apples, say I'm feeling like buying nicer apples, Jazz apples sell for AUD4.50 (RM14.40) per kg.
Over here, apples are selling at least RM10 per kg.

Bananas AUD2(RM6.40) per kg (but its quite often that you can get them at AUD1[RM3.20) per kg].
Over here, roughly RM5 per kg.

Most of the things are cheaper and if they are more expensive its a few ringgit difference.
But at the same time, minimum wage is roughly AUD2,500(RM9k) a month, whereas you earn peanuts here and have much lower buying power.

so...


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post Oct 29 2017, 10:25 PM

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post Oct 29 2017, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(mekboyz @ Oct 29 2017, 10:05 PM)
Not lactose intolerant meh? Most Asian cannot drink milk one
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hmm, kena only once when I stopped drinking milk for a very long time, chugged down 1.5L of Desa milk and 15 minutes later, I was basically in the toilet laugh.gif

QUOTE(nivlanauk @ Oct 29 2017, 10:13 PM)
In Australia standard price for milk is AUD1 per litre, which translates to RM3.40 per litre.

Sometimes I crave Malaysian food so I buy those premade spice mix = AUD2 per packet, translating to RM6.80 per packet. Over here, they are selling the same thing for RM5+, so only RM2 difference or AUD0.65.

For fruits, I pay AUD2.50(RM8) per kg for pink lady apples, say I'm feeling like buying nicer apples, Jazz apples sell for AUD4.50 (RM14.40) per kg.
Over here, apples are selling at least RM10 per kg.

Bananas AUD2(RM6.40) per kg (but its quite often that you can get them at AUD1[RM3.20) per kg].
Over here, roughly RM5 per kg.

Most of the things are cheaper and if they are more expensive its a few ringgit difference.
But at the same time, minimum wage is roughly AUD2,500(RM9k) a month, whereas you earn peanuts here and have much lower buying power.

so...
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didn't know aussie so cheap also hmm.gif
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QUOTE(kcchong2000 @ Oct 29 2017, 08:33 PM)
U know that kundasang Sabah have cow milk? But I only see they sell in Sabah hypermarket.
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Sorry i don't know. Thanks for filling me up.
I read that it's difficult but not impossible to raise cattle in tropics. So I guess if they can do it at lowlands, they can do it better at mountain area.

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