No point arguing.....

Comments here are very based on thier priority....
His comments shows he's not strong on religion..tats all..
Not that its wrong (his point of view)...

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Added on April 17, 2007, 3:45 pmIf u know u cant eat spicy food, would u eat it?
U know u'll cry after eating it....

Never try never know is it?

This post has been edited by WaCKy-Angel: Apr 17 2007, 03:45 PM

Hello, you think our fren is that dumb, just listen to my word and go meet this girl 1st time in his life in the nasional registra office ready to sign marriage certificate ka??? We cannot comment much coz we dont know...but base on only what lil information he wrote, do you think its easy to find an able bodied girl to commit into a rship with a wheelchair bound person? Unless he's damn rich than I see a motive...otherwise I think shes an angel...would you commit yourself to a wheelchair bound wife? ask yourself this question 1st.

2nd she is not being selfish about the religion issue...are you even living in Msia??? Here there is no choice...the gomen didnt give anyone (muslim) a choice, they cannot come out from the religion, so if they fall in love with a non-muslim its always the other party must sacrifice...unless you migrate elsewhere....

still wanna go meet her after she let him know the requirement (conversion)? if meet also then what else comes after? She still will insist on that requirement.

first bolded: Then why r u commenting here now?

second bolded: so u emphasized again not many able-bodied girl would wan a wheelchair bound guy. So I also make deduction that that "girl" he's involved wiv now also MIGHT be using him too? Same like how u make your assumption that girl should be very very good and "sacrificing" already to pick him. You with your opinions, and mine with my reservations.

3rd bolded: so that's why she insist he convert ? SInce she willing to "sacrifice" (laughs) so much for accepting such a guy, why dun she go further and get out of this country wiv him, instead of requiring him to convert or else.

Note to TS: You religion carried you so far, giving you strength to live on after you the mishap that happened to you. I;m sure you will really have utmost faith in that. Dun't because of one girl, you sacrifice your religion. For one such girl who accept u "partially" (accept you but NOT your religion), there r thousands more who will accept you completely. Dun't fall for the same old marketing trick like "better choose her coz there's not many of her kind anymore!" .

btw, when u lost a girl like her, dun worry. there might b as good or maybe even better one in the future. But when u converted and change your mind...... I;m sure you know what awaits u. u willing to gamble ?

This post has been edited by alanyuppie: Apr 17 2007, 04:03 PM

Precisely. In this case you know he's going to give it a try with her irregardless of what racially charged repercussions there may be so why convince him otherwise? I would like more and more people to look beyond race and religion when it comes to love.

Comment meaning we only have so much information...not about can or cannot give our opinion.


Using him? you think she is using him? like how? what does she gain? and what does she stand to lose?


Religion that carries him this far or the doctor at the otopedic and the nurse and family support that carried him this far? Have you been involve with a wheelchair bound person? Involve in the sense of frens or family, have you ever taken care of any? Talk is easy...how many able body person can just migrate out from this country? not to mention a wheelchair bound person...get real my friend!

How many wheelchair bound fren you have? how many can get a gf not to mention wife? how many able bodied girl willing to date wheelchair ppl? Before you shoot like a hero, get real and reach out .... I have plenty of wheelchair friend and we always go TT...join us and get to know thier life

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Added on April 17, 2007, 4:25 pmTo be honest I know zip about OKU ppl, until it happen to my best fren ... after the accident in 03, he was in ICU for a week and after waking up it took over a year for him to accept that he may never walk again...he was a very active person, a cyclist, a camper, fisherman...we do all these very often.

He spend 9 months in the hospital...it took a lot of comfort and support from family and friends and not to mention all the kind hearted doctors and nurses in the hospital. He took 6 months b4 he learn how to use the wheel chair and getting in and out from the bed by himself...thanks to the guys at the physio department.

I was with him all the way...the hospital is like my second home....then slowly I join him with the Physio lesson...and got to know more SCI friends...

Sorry for the tread starter I dont mean to bring out all the bad memories, I'm sure you've experience the same...but I just want to enlighten some ppl who do not understand about life in a wheelchair. You think being alive is great? try falling off your wheelchair the first time in the bathroom and you cannot even help yourself!...so you talk about religion with me? I used to be a born again christian attending charasmatic every friday.... I guess your name applied nicely "YUPPIE", have you seen the uglier side of life????



This post has been edited by moorish: Apr 17 2007, 04:25 PM

Thanks for all the advise and comments.Really apreciate it!Again, thanks all!

From all the coments here,i understand that for some of you religion is the most important thing and for some love is the important thing.For me both very important for me but i know if i choose to proceed,i have to let one of the important thing to go.

I'm planning to meet her,as some of you guys said it is better to meet each other first to have better understanding.At that time we can talk face to face about this matter and decide to continue our relationship or not.

moorish,
You're really a true friend of your friend.Seriously i don't have any friends coming to my house and talk to me anymore.My friends only last for the first year of my accident and now they're all gone.....yeah,they have to do their things.

Okay,she've never asked me to convert into her religion.She said she's respecting my decision on this matter.I asked her,if she's willing to convert into my religion and she said she's still strong with her religion and not willing to convert.I respect that since she understand the hardest matter of both of us.Whenever i ask,why she's choosing me eventhough she knew she won't get anything and she said,she love me and she feel very comfortable with me.The same answer all the times i ask her about it.

I've been talking with her about this matter for few days and she always sms something like this.... 'Don't think about it anymore,i'm willing to be with you without getting married,i love you very much and i don't want to end our relationship.'

I really don't know what to do in this situation.

Conroe, play by ears....one step at a time...but do remember this...not easy to get a girl committing to you....as you already know...even best fren eventually dissolve when you no longer can join them like last time.

Good luck to you and hope you have a happy ending.

good that you have figured things out.. just take things as it goes step by step k it's really still too early to talk about marriege and stuff... don't rush yourself.. and don't rush the relationship.

like mentioned above.. let's see how things goes first.. she may think this way now, but may change her mind after some time

Blah.....Its just because u AFRAID or DONT WANT to make the decision.

Its better if u decide now rather than making it harder to decide after u getting more seriously into the relationship.

what if malaysia dont have this law..
ermmmm, what about their children??...i think if u khawin, one of the reason is to get children. Children is important i think. If their mum is muslim, and their father is Christian, and their children would be..??

This post has been edited by gArBAgE: Apr 17 2007, 07:10 PM

Well the children would have funky names and they are museLame.

TS, try to convert her into christian then gtfo of this country if she doesn't want to convert find another girl.

it's funny and sad at the same time seeing some people treat religion like a game: whoever gets the most converts wins? no one is trying to convert anyone at this point, and the people who emphasis people to convert him or convert her is simply trying to put their communal interest between two people who like each other. how dare you, guenhwyvar?

in my opinion. cyber wife.
i dont know why
but if u guys a are really suit for each other
try meeting her (i guess)

I do know partners who live together, have a child and are not legally married. Don't ask why because the reasons are personal. The difference is that their parents can accept their situation and more importantly, they are of the same race. In your case, it will be illegal for you to be in the same room as her, no? In the eyes of the Syariah Court anyway. This is not an option unless you migrate.

Like I said, be with her for awhile and see if you really do like each other that much. An online relationship is NOT a good indication of how a real relationship will turn out.