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moorish
post Apr 17 2007, 03:20 PM

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Sorry to hear about your accident, what level SCI are you? My best fren is also SCI C6/7. He's married recently, met his wife after the accident. I dont mean to sound crude or like an axxhole, but being forward and realistic, unless you're damn rich its not easy to find a girl whos willing to accept your condition esp in m'sia. Sorry again if I offend any girls in here but honestly ask yourself how many willing to accept the life long burden? have to take care of your husband whos in a wheelchair? I mean if it happen after you fall in love is a diffirent story, I've a few friends whom are life-long in wheelchair and thier wife are equally happy. But when you're free person and suddenly I ask you to get involve with a person in a chair is a totally different story. Will your parent accept the situation? most parents wants the best for thier kid...selfish as it may seem but thats the world we live in today.

OK back to your dillema, do you even realized that this COULD be the last girl whom will accept your condition and willing to go thru thick and thin with you? I can see she is really a very kind hearted person...if I'm in your shoes, I'll plunge right in. She is willing to sacrifice so much for you so why cant you give something back? Talk to your parents...tell them what else you gotta lose? You're already rock bottom so, you've nothing to fear...but everything to gain.

Just do it....

Pardon me if I sound heartless but being with a few friends whom are SCI, I more or less knows their daily struggle....
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post Apr 17 2007, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Apr 17 2007, 03:37 PM)
Dun tok bout those bullshit stuff like the first bolded. Since you can say not many able-bodied girls accept ppl like TS, so can we used back what you said to make a deduction that there's a BIG chance the girl is also "using" TS also? Especially with an added fact that both never met each other b4. It's simply "GOD-SENT" huh for someone to fell in love with another while not having to meet each other before.

its' religion. dunt play play with it.  From how TS said it, his religion is his EVERYTHING also. why she can go ALL the way to concern and accept his everything, and yet didn't practice ACCEPTANCE on his religion (acceptance only. He's NOT EVEN asked her to convert to his religion also). Sometimes things r pretty fishy.

If both party keep to his and her religion and be happy about it, then now this is TRUE acceptance.
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Hello, you think our fren is that dumb, just listen to my word and go meet this girl 1st time in his life in the nasional registra office ready to sign marriage certificate ka??? We cannot comment much coz we dont know...but base on only what lil information he wrote, do you think its easy to find an able bodied girl to commit into a rship with a wheelchair bound person? Unless he's damn rich than I see a motive...otherwise I think shes an angel...would you commit yourself to a wheelchair bound wife? ask yourself this question 1st.

2nd she is not being selfish about the religion issue...are you even living in Msia??? Here there is no choice...the gomen didnt give anyone (muslim) a choice, they cannot come out from the religion, so if they fall in love with a non-muslim its always the other party must sacrifice...unless you migrate elsewhere....
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post Apr 17 2007, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Apr 17 2007, 03:54 PM)
first bolded: Then why r u commenting here now?
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Comment meaning we only have so much information...not about can or cannot give our opinion.


QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Apr 17 2007, 03:54 PM)
second bolded: so u emphasized again not many able-bodied girl would wan a wheelchair bound guy. So I also make deduction that that "girl" he's involved wiv now also MIGHT be using him too? Same like how u make your assumption that girl should be very very good and "sacrificing" already to pick him. You with your opinions, and mine with my reservations.
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Using him? you think she is using him? like how? what does she gain? and what does she stand to lose?


QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Apr 17 2007, 03:54 PM)
3rd bolded: so that's why she insist he convert ? SInce she willing to "sacrifice"  (laughs) so much for accepting such a guy, why dun she go further and get out of this country wiv him, instead of requiring him to convert or else.

Note to TS: You religion carried you so far, giving you strength to live on after you the mishap that happened to you. I;m sure you will really have utmost faith in that. Dun't because of one girl, you sacrifice your religion. For one such girl who accept u "partially" (accept you but NOT your religion), there r thousands more who will accept you completely. Dun't fall for the same old marketing trick  like "better choose her coz there's not many of her kind anymore!" .

btw, when u lost a girl like her, dun worry. there might b as good or maybe even better one in the future. But when u converted and change your mind...... I;m sure you know what awaits u. u willing to gamble ?
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Religion that carries him this far or the doctor at the otopedic and the nurse and family support that carried him this far? Have you been involve with a wheelchair bound person? Involve in the sense of frens or family, have you ever taken care of any? Talk is easy...how many able body person can just migrate out from this country? not to mention a wheelchair bound person...get real my friend!

How many wheelchair bound fren you have? how many can get a gf not to mention wife? how many able bodied girl willing to date wheelchair ppl? Before you shoot like a hero, get real and reach out .... I have plenty of wheelchair friend and we always go TT...join us and get to know thier life


Added on April 17, 2007, 4:25 pmTo be honest I know zip about OKU ppl, until it happen to my best fren ... after the accident in 03, he was in ICU for a week and after waking up it took over a year for him to accept that he may never walk again...he was a very active person, a cyclist, a camper, fisherman...we do all these very often.

He spend 9 months in the hospital...it took a lot of comfort and support from family and friends and not to mention all the kind hearted doctors and nurses in the hospital. He took 6 months b4 he learn how to use the wheel chair and getting in and out from the bed by himself...thanks to the guys at the physio department.

I was with him all the way...the hospital is like my second home....then slowly I join him with the Physio lesson...and got to know more SCI friends...

Sorry for the tread starter I dont mean to bring out all the bad memories, I'm sure you've experience the same...but I just want to enlighten some ppl who do not understand about life in a wheelchair. You think being alive is great? try falling off your wheelchair the first time in the bathroom and you cannot even help yourself!...so you talk about religion with me? I used to be a born again christian attending charasmatic every friday.... I guess your name applied nicely "YUPPIE", have you seen the uglier side of life????



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post Apr 17 2007, 04:57 PM

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Conroe, play by ears....one step at a time...but do remember this...not easy to get a girl committing to you....as you already know...even best fren eventually dissolve when you no longer can join them like last time.

Good luck to you and hope you have a happy ending.

 

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