Looking for some answers so thought I'd post here to check.

For Attumen the Huntsman, there seems to be 2 strategy on most sites. Which one would be the easiest to follow if wearing non-heroic gear?

1. When Midnight is 30%, DPS Attumen. Longer tanking on Midnite but when he mounts up, his health is lower so cleaving is less.

2. Just DPS Midnite only. Attumen is tank to one side. However, longer session to take down Attumen so cleaving will happen more often.

Also, for the AOE curse that Attumen casts, does he cast it while mounted or only when he's standing?

oh... lol

oh and myremi logged on stormscale just to see me, true story

my guild has been following the 2nd strategy, dps midnight until attumen mount again.

the debuff is casted when attumen is dismounted.

Quazacolt : DOH. Yep, only cause I couldn't sleep not knowing what we did wrong and knowing that I'd probably get an answer from you. Was thinking of logging onto other servers to ask other ppl but wasn't sure if they were up that late or that they welcome me bothering them. Now thinking twice.

radiounit : Thanks. How much usually does Attunmen has when he mounts up his horse?

We also do the 2nd strat - focusing on Midnight then Attunmen.

Additional tips that can help...

1. Attunmen can be disarmed, greatly reducing his damage. In our guild's case, our MT is a feral druid and OT is prot warr. So our OT actually tanks Attunmen.

2. Cleaves are now frontal only, so rogues got some love there.

3. Aoe curses shouldnt be an issue if your raid's mages are alert.

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Added on April 17, 2007, 8:16 ambtw, we use wowwiki.com for the boss strats, its quite good - you might wanna check it out (or get your Raid Leader to check it out).

This post has been edited by saingau: Apr 17 2007, 08:16 AM

saingau : Thx for the tip. Actually, with Wowwiki.com, it speaks about strat #1 as well as strat #2 so that's the bit that got confusing. Coupled with the fact that in WoW Raids and Dungeons forum, a lot of posts were suggesting to use strat #1. From what I gathered from the raid leaders anyway. But looking at youtube movies on the fight, most ppl use strat#2 instead.

Anyway, it was our first run last nite (with no priests either ><) and we got him down to about 5% when we wiped. The fight was taking too long on strat #1 so healers and mages (12K-13K mana) OOM very fast.

Q :

This post has been edited by myremi: Apr 17 2007, 08:51 AM

drink pots!

http://www.worldofraids.com/

you can get from info of the raids in this site as well

someone sure is kidder. before fight, healing pot, int buff, GotW. during fight, innervate, demonic rune, mana pot, innervate from another druid, tree form.

mages potting, before and during fights.

then im speechless.... i have no idea how you guys are going oom so fast...

Yeah, true although it's massive forum digging. Their Raid content section looks like it's for loot tables only. I haven't been there in awhile because I got tired of reading up info that was outdated (i.e. BC beta).

For a first run I think thats good. Strats-wise, I'd suggest you guys try out which one works best, and stick to it. Like in our case, we find that we function better by focusing on one target, then move on. Just remind the tank (if he's warr) to disarm the joker when he/she can - you'll know he's disarmed when he does a yell along the lines of "weapons are of no use to me" or something.

Btw, I hope you like Moroes, his voice is funny, bordering on annoying

xiaosin : went oom because DPS too spread out I think when we switch targets. also, think it was from healing other raid members other than the tank who were taking damage. It wasn't the random charge but something else, some were just an AOE damage? in WoWwiki.com, it's mentioned that Midnite will sometimes bucked.

although, can't wait for the patch to come out now. Pots and flasks are starting to look cheaper and I do mean seriously damn cheap. http://worldofraids.free.fr/2.1.0/BT/potions-vendor.jpg

hopefully, there's no limit of the amount of potions and pots that one can buy. although the Sarge's Bullet is hilarious : more pew pew, less QQ.

sites that i got from my guild forums, some of them have pictures on positioning.. gl

http://bosskillers.com/
http://www.dsight.be/tbc/
http://nordrassor.freehostia.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=636

Thanks saingau. Yeah, it's just taking a bit of getting used to. Hmm....say to disarm him while he mounted, can any other warrior do it too if they are not holding aggro? Silly question I know. >< Not familiar with warrior moves.

Thanks xiaosin. I lke the last one too. Although the 2nd one is copy word for word from AmpWoW. ><

Yeap, any warrior can disarm him. If that warr has some talents in imp disarm (prot tree), the duration of disarm is longer.



Btw, bout your last posting (above quote), the only thing I can think of is the shadow cleave.

1. Are the range players standing too close?
2. Are the melee standing behind (so they dont get cleaved)?

These Qs might help.

exploit with dps pots n elixirs now b4 u cant stack em anymore! lol.

SPLOITS WITH FLASKS KEKEKEKEKKEKE

seriously though, melees WILL take shadow cleaves even when ur on his ass (coming from a rogue kek, we do et from behind)

its just shadow cleave, have the rogues to evasion/clos

can reduce 1-2 of those dmg, or anticipate when its coming, sprint out sprint back. or just have them bandage self. lotsa options in your hands.

need short n simple tips for aran..... i want prince >"<

btw last nite heard from my fren, their guild down curator @ 1st evo

that is mad dps

if you cleared up to chess after curator it's advisable to just do a few attempts at prince. once respawn sets in just do aran if you want. aran is harder than prince btw.

tips for aran:

know what to do for each of his abilities.
flame wreathe = don't move
arcane explosion = run out asap
blizzard = look where he does a single frostbolt before his blizzard and run to the opposite side and then follow on the edge of the blizzard.

other than that kick/pummel his frostbolt and fireball. do not interrupt his arcane missiles or he would run around and that could screw up healers etc if he gets near and gets silenced.

healers need to heal people who are getting arcane missiles fast coz its the main source of death, just assist aran whenever he starts casting it.

at 40% he will summon 4 water elemental adds. banish/fear them and keep dps'ing aran. if aran's mana gets low he will aoe sheep and pyro for 7.5k. just heal up afterwards and go on as usual

but if we no kill aran 1st... enuf time to go for prince? prince is so hard to heal.. as we still consider undergered.. unless the heal los wall bug is successful ?

2 hrs by the time finish chest event already like half an hour more left..

pyro 7.5k >"< mean those low health GG mooncloth sets got to drink titan ?

The improved disarm talent is a joke and therefore any warrior who takes it is a joke.

you can still use the exploit for prince

and for aran... get out of los you wont get the polymorph/pyro


you should go for prince first, prince fight is a lot easier than aran

My casual guild is a bit undergeared and me being the world's most unlucky and undergeared main tank. However we managed to take down the prince before taking down aran.

You definitely need to be quicker in taking down the trash mobs linked to Aran and before the Prince although admittedly i tend to pull quickly, as long as healers have mana (doesn't have to be full) - I'm on the next pull already.

I've always hated the LOS wall bug as it's too luck dependant. Infernal between caster group and tank? GG. We only learned to do the encounter properly recently by using the whole area to kill him. It's a bit like the last boss in AQ20 where the dps has to move and the tank has to move to a better spot.

Also, greater stoneshield pots are your tank's best friend if you're undergeared.

Edit: They're changing the encounter so that the doors close when you engage the prince in the next patch so you'll have to learn to do it properly.


This post has been edited by Kidicarus: Apr 17 2007, 01:33 PM

haha GG wik gg! ARAN suck

i no do AQ 20 b4 so no idea wat ya talking.. just 60 not long b4 tbc come out.

next patch bug fix???????????????????????????????????????? T_T doesnst matter, havn see the prince face b4..

now gotta think a way to convince my rl abt prince>aran... light justice anyway the issue is the mob only.. take long time to clear n if we fail got to clear again

Yeap, that used to happen, but all cleaves have been fixed in the latest patch (according to the notes). I cant confirm ingame since I'm range

Agreed, but its an option thats available! Cheers mate!

aran = optional
prince = tier 4

hey, being able to put it on paper doesn't really mean we can implement it flawlessly

clearing to prince sucks, but at least try him whenever you cleared up to chess since it is only 3 pulls to prince so don't miss the chance to have a few attempts.

Aye and soulstones, divine intervention and reincarnation all help to give you additional tries.

kill aran for free port! lol. unless u plan to clr kara in one day killin aran first is alwaz the way to go. And ironshield pots are easier to make than greater stoneshield.

For healers having trouble with Aran, use the Focus Macro. Makes life much much much esier.

eg..once u see aran start to channel his AM, your healers just spam the focus macro. Im MH for the raid, and i find Aran less stressful then Curator/opera

TBC has a new function called focus. This allows you to set a particular target (hostile or non-hostile) to be your "focus", allowing you to reference back to your focus at any time.

For example, if i set Aran as my focus, i can use macros like /target focus, and it will automatically target Aran.

Certain UI frame addons (like x-perl) will also show display a separate unit frame for your focus target, allowing u to monitor the focus' health, mana and spellcast bar.

Simple tutorial on using focus
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Setting your focus

Press Escape. Under Key Bindings -> targetting functions, you will find two options near the bottom of the section. They are "focus target" and "target focus".

Bind a key to "focus target". From now on, anytime u choose a target and press the key, that target becomes your focus

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Using your focus

I hope you know how to create a macro....

Let's say I want to heal my focus target, who happens to be the MT.
First, i must set the MT as my focus.
Then i create the following macro:
/target focus
/cast Greater Heal(Rank 8)



If I want to heal my focus' target (e.g. Aran is my focus and he's blasting Eliv with arcane missiles)
First, I set Aran as my focus
Then macro:
/target focustarget
/cast Flash Heal

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Where is this useful?

Bosses which randomly target ppl that require quick healer reaction (Aran, Dorothee, Julianne, BBW)
Fights where you are targetting someone but need to keep constant cc on another mob (Moroes shackle, succubus seduce, polymorph)

would be nice when we have this back in the days on vael/broodlord without KTM... good info btw

Ancient lichenx2+primal earth vs 3 stonescale oil + thorium ore

Well, my priest isn't at the level where i can solo a lowbie instance for the lichen so it's back to fishing for me.. besides need oils for titans..

I the thing about kara that i like is you can choose the boss you want to go for first

i like any dungeon without having to clear the amount of trash similar to trash after broodlord in bwl.

lol QFT

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Added on April 18, 2007, 6:12 pmoh and before broodlord lawl... i r roag QQ

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Apr 18 2007, 06:12 PM

Moroes :

1. How long are your typical fights guys?

2. If the garrote get onto a player that doesn't have stoneform, pally's bubble, mage iceblock or pally cannot cast bubble, how then? Looks like massive healing. I heard some groups just let the wipe happen when the non-plate healers gets it and that they rather run back to try again. Does Ironshield help in this situation or will it always be 1K damage ever 3 sec?

We use blessing of protection on clothies

1. 5-7 minutes i think

2. garrote is a dot that ignores armor so it doesnt matter if you're cloth or plate. we usually tell the people get garroted stand near the mt and hope that moreos will re-garrote them again. and tell your tanks to spam demo shout it will force moroes to come out

bleed is not affected by armor

my group kills moroes at an avg of 5-6 mins. our cc is crap lolz

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Added on April 19, 2007, 1:47 pmmoroes vanish is not affected by demo shout or any aoes, he will only be out once the garrote lands.

the same goes for renataki from ZG.

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Apr 19 2007, 01:47 PM

i remember last time i spam demo he came out, or maybe he just garroted me again

Quaza is right on this - only appears after garotte.

However we have been lucky before where the garotte doesnt land on the person.... so its like a free round!

Anyone experienced that before?

u can break his vanish wif demo shout otherwise i cant find any other explanation for it. In spamming demo shout practically every moroes fight, half those vanishes ended wif no garrotes. If its not the demo shout breaking it then i have no idea what is.

This post has been edited by Kurei: Apr 19 2007, 02:40 PM

Tips for Garrotes

1. Paladin Blessing of protection will remove it. Save it for healers
2. dun bother healing locks with garote, get them to drain life
3. SS a player with garrote...get him to use up all his mana/rage then die and resurrect at 50% hp/mana

When we were first learning the Moroes fight, we once killed him with 6 garotes up...massive healing needed...i used 4 major mana pots and every single on of my cooldowns 3-4 times

This post has been edited by jwrx: Apr 19 2007, 03:28 PM

garrote can miss and there are times he just prolly dont feel like it? could also result from say a hunter fd, and he was targeting the hunter.

it is pretty much confirmed from nearly all strat guides that his vanish will not be broken

when going in to meet moroes, do you reckon that having 3 healer spec classes is an overkill i.e. DPS will drop substantially?

3 healers is pretty much what you need for all the encounters in kara. dps shouldn't be gimped with 3 healers. standard grouping for all the encounters should be MT,OT, 3 healers and the rest DPS.

thanks wikzs. most guides online are talking about 2 healers max.

with moroes, we had him at about 50% but it was rough going becoz ran out of mana from healing. plus, the hard hits which is nothing unusual.

try to burn cooldowns at the start so that the adds die faster. the mana consumption for moroes is heavy at first coz of the 4 adds then it gets slow once adds are down and handled. it gets heavy again after awhile coz people needs to be healed from garrote damage

3 full healers is overdoing it abit. 2 healers + 1 hybrid is best. 3 healers means less stress for your healers, but the boss fights tend to be longer cos u only have 5 dps, then u run into oom problems

the combo that works best for my guild

1MT
1 hybrid (OT/healer)- Druid or pally
1 hybrid (healer/dps) - shadow priest
2 healer
5 DPS

For moroes, 2 healers is fine, then u can burn him down fast. If your 2 healer is a priest and paladin, even better...priest shackle 1 add, paladin fear/OT another

challenge for us is how to make sure we can bring our resto druids in. it looks like :

1 holy pally (main healing)
1 resto druid (main healing)
1 shadow priest (hybrid)

with holy priest, then druid is the hybrid of either feral or balance?

i have about 6 raiding priests....all went shadow after TBC, priest just dont have the staying power of a holy pally.

our guild priest did alot of comparison and study on holy/shadow, the utility of a shadow priest, far outweighs the benefits of a holy priest

Blessing or protection (if you have pallies) or heal through it. Ppl should be prepared to pot, do watever it takes to stay alive...

Btw, if things go bad - reset the encounter.

for our guild we have zero shadow priests, dps was never a concern for our guild (at least at the moment) thus the mana battery ultility from a shadow priest, and their dps is not needed. healing power on the other hand is what we actually need as our best healer is a shaman and after all, he is a shaman. they just cant heal as effecient as pallies or having the vast healing powers of a holy priest. but still we're doing pretty decent.

Moroes fight :

How to make sure the shackle doesn't break from mobs inherent resistance? No one is hitting it but the shackle from our Holy Priest has a tendency to break. She's shackling the warrior where he usually shield bashes the priest. Ending up with a longer time to whack for him to finish bashing her. Sigh.

longer shackle / MC depends on their hit rating.

i reshackle every 5 -8 sec. nvr break if u're shacking the 'priest' .. basically mending @ warr renew shackle flash heal..yada yada..

nvr break n nvr stop reshackle.. the wipe nvr cause by garrote but the shackle.



soz i want aran...

praying hard helps, what you could do though to help reduce the risk from priest dying etc, is shackling every 5-10 sec, and if resist/early breaks, have a mage in between the priest and shackle guy to frost nova, to buy time for priest.

huntardss can trap and paladins can stun n fear

make sure your priests have thier shackle target set as thier "Focus" and ensure they reshackle every 5-8 second

also, sometimes its not them breaking, but another add dispeling the shackle

get all casters/healers to stand togther, have hunter set ice trap infront of that group...so if a ad breaks free..hits the trap. Get mage to stand in front and be on the ball...add breaks free....quickly frost nova and the whole caster group moves back, hunter resets trap in front of mob

another way...get the pally to fear the add..when it breaks free..will go back to pally...got plate so can tank him a while and refear
Kara is all about all 10 raiders PAYING attention

soz.... i dun find aran is hard yet we just cant down it...... all the bossess we got 1 shot till aran we got 2 time respawn wiped fes .. soz...

i want prince T_T

good post!

and as said above, the add dispeling (cleansing) is the holy paladin... lady something. she will be wearing in cloth, but make no mistake, its a pally. and she will also occassionaly greater blessing everyone, so make sure you dispel/purge/spellsteal etc on all 4 adds/moroes. (she does it the moment the fight starts too)

lol Gladys, indeed Aran is not hard but it's hard for u to get that 10 person to concentrate fully without silly mistakes. Normally wipe happens on flame wrath tho...notthing else.

Thanks guys. Hmm... we had no pallies, 1 hunter, 1 holy priest, 1 shadow priest. So looks like have to stand near the hunter where the 2nd ice-trap will be.

We had both the holy pally, holy priest and ret pally. Plus one of the warriors.

We cleared all 4 adds twice. It was the garrote that got us in the end. 1/2 of us were new to the fight. The other half had down him down to 4K HP but there was a pally present as well as holy priest + shadow priest + hunter (loads of CC). Last nite's run, the lowest we got Moroes down to was 40% HP.

That's your problem right there. You don't need to kill all 4 adds. If you only take down 2 adds and keep the remaining 2 adds shackled, that's more than enough dps for the last 40%.

clarify a little on ur post, to my understanding, if you kill all 4 add, ur most likely to wipe from intense garrote healing (even BOP cant help you much as you'll only bop 1-2 times max per moroes fight)

shackle on 2, kill 2, and kill moroes -> ten back to the 2...

its easier this way....the easiest way is 4 shackle....(4 priest but lame) hahahaha....

get a shadow priest on a shackle and a holy priest on another shackle willdo..

stoneform helps too if you have any dwarfs

i dono......
i really dono what the F is happening..

2 week wiped fes seem ridiculas to me yet i cant find the "reason" just like any other boss i can point the problem out...

grrrrrrrrr i want prince..




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mimi , 2 shacle mob kill after moroes die.
1 adds > moroes > hunter's cc > priest cc.

if only 1 priest shackle n keep raid up kinda GG.. unless he is real geared with mp5..or flask of mightly restoration

my raid killed moroes a few times w/o priests... what to do? no priest during that time lol...

we killed 3 adds hunter trap one... do et. if not no lewts lol

but 4 adds....

jwrx : spot on on 10 people working together. we do notice it does take awhile for the members to get used to doing 10-man.

kidi : ah. then i'm assuming that the last 2 adds that are to be kept shackled at all times would be at least one warrior and one more whoever it is that is left there (presumably the holy priest or holy pally)? with the adds spawn, is it possible to get 2 priest + 2 pally or is it a mix of priest + pally + warrior combo at all times?

qua : yep. guess so. but no pally with us that night (he log on late). unless i put out my max regrowth, that may help a bit. but only for a short while.

xiao : only dwarf was the OT. and he almost never got garroted.

gladys : wanna share your fight strategies or fight scenarios? Think the guys also cannot help you if you don't describe how the fight goes on.

ya lo gladys hahaha...normally u wipe at what %?

This post has been edited by Addict: Apr 27 2007, 11:17 AM

It's totally random and any combo is possible.

Regarding garrotes - lots of things can happen as to who gets it. Pallies can divine shield and blessing of protection (save it for your healers). If the tank gets it - np he's being healed anyway. Mages can iceblock. If a caster is low on mana, might be a good idea to just let him die and combat res/use soulstone. It's yet another dps race because you only get so many tries before he garrotes the whole raid. That's why it's important to shift focus from the adds asap.

priest to shackle + heal.
hunter to trap + dps
no big different , anyhow also a CC n a healer there.


unless u gonna tell me no healer hunter trap n bandage pot . i'll lolololol till forgot the pain of aran wiped.



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mimi.. im not as good as others here,but from my understanding, it's a hard time ur raid givng to the holy priest, bcoz shackle needed to reshack every 5-8 sec n he need to heal as well as the shadow priest. unless u're damm geared or damm rich. either way to works..


ya wat lo...
27% -30% ...
if u want me to say... our rogue is GG enuf, WTB more kick n more CS.

i ya lo to mimi ...erm lose to the elementals part?

elemental part is fine.. banish ? fear ? rogue can do proper kick @ fire bolt is crazy pain.. unless u got a shammy to give u fire resist...

no luck imo.... 1 of the attemp we down to 23% poly n elemental at the same time , 1 fire bolt hit me up n continue argo him hp down to 100+, flame come out next second while i didnt notice it n i casting heal n i GG go "jump" to cancel cast instead of hitting "esc" n it's too late.. wiped the raid soz... how dumb me..

just tell ur hunter stack frost resist gear and tank all the adds thats how we 1st down it last time lol

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Added on April 27, 2007, 12:10 pmthen it's your rogue/warrior problem la adui =.=
just assign them what spells to interupt then can liao


This post has been edited by xiaosin: Apr 27 2007, 12:10 PM

http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1896965

Sorry

But I've been wanting to do this all morning!

aiya no healer how to do, 5 seconds into fight i think tank die already lol.

i meant no priest, aka no shackles.

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This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Apr 27 2007, 12:43 PM

sometimes not everyone can do wat excatly wat they suppose to do.
its more on understanding n reacting problems.

........... ignore-ed.
so i said, shackle or trap as long as it's a CC there.. doesnt matter.
wat r u trying to say? i really dun get ur point.

just sayin, didnt gg us.

if u l2read

that is talking abt the holy priest in mimi's raid case.


spammer.

mimi still learning the fight wor. first time go in wor. better to look like a fool asking for help making mistakes than having to get stopped by moroes for the next few weeks. then i veli veli malu alredi.

then you have to l2post. because it wasnt directed to anyone specifically and i am merely responding to a post within a thread.

myremi: np np, take ur time... no rush... less epics less repairs lolz... (im already feeling the epic "weight" already )

yeah, the repair bills are pricey, i'd think. but sometimes, feel so geram when we can't even do much. like with attumen, still need to go a few times before downing him. bleargh.

sigh...last nite...attumen -> chess....4 silly wipes due to us playing the fool and mucking around...24g in repairs..

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Added on April 27, 2007, 4:53 pmif u wipe at attumen its normally 2 reasons only

1- Dps need to l2p and not aggro

2- MT needs to thundeclap and pull attumen immidiatly when he spawns

cos besides that...healers just need to spam on OT/MT, Dps just needs to nuke attumen...no moving around...no debuffs....no poisons...no aoe

This post has been edited by jwrx: Apr 27 2007, 04:53 PM

Reason 2. Even when we swap MT/OT roles, they seem to have problems picking up Attumen. OT is on the horse. MT is in front of the casters to pick up Attumen.

Does Attumen spawn next to the horse or near the wagon?

MT1 tried to pick up Attumen when he spawned with thunderclasp but couldn't seem to. We switched to misdirect Attumen to him and it was better. Then found out that Sunder Armor doesn't work well so had to switch to Shield Bash / Slam.

Another time was phase 2. 2 tanks had problems picking up Attumen when he mounted up. After mounting up, someone gets charged until the warrior can pick him up. We put Misdirect and stood in front of the casters.

It only happened at these 2 occasions. Any other occasion, the tanks can hold aggro.

This post has been edited by myremi: Apr 27 2007, 05:07 PM

nothing so malu... my raid progress lagi malu..

so i see some show off b@ start keep show off the epic n being bzbody to respone other ppl's reply-quoted-post.

The problem is with the tanks. They are just not picking up fast enough. Some tips here...

1. Attunmen spawns next to the horse on the left (assuming you are tanking horse where it is)
2. He spawns when horse is 95%.
3. Since tank's TC failed... remind him he has demo shout to draw agro.
4. Phase 2... get MT to position where horse/attunmen mounts up, OT inbetween the raid and attunmen.

That should work. Good luck

also...pls make sure your tanks

are not:
- Turning with A and D keys...i have seen tanks do this...its OMGFPL2P
- using mouse clicks to activate skills/actions

are:
binding all thier skills to keys like f,g,z,x,c,1,2,3,4


If u still having problems....get a paladin to OT....paladins are great OT in kara because of Consecrate

And if your tanks cant handle attumen....u will never get pass the Opera trash.... 2 pairs of skeletal Ushers, Ushers are a true test of wether your tanks are capable of doing Kara

Atumen = Gear check
Moroes = dps check
Maiden = healer check
Usher = tank check
curator = endurance check
Aran = Stupidity check(if u have dumb raiders...u dun pass Aran)

Kara is unlike any lvl 60 raid...last time...u can afford to be nice...player X not very good..but nvm...he my good friend...we take him along for MC...player Y is a sucky healer ..but who cares...we got 15 other priest in the MC raid

in kara....even 1 idiot....will wipe your raid...cant be nice anymore..either u L2P....or u dun come kara....

when my guild first started kara..i still try to be nice and include everyone...but after freaking 8 wipes in a row on moroes due to lack of dps/healing...we got tough..only dedicated players who put in the time and effort...got to raid kara....now, in 1 nite we can get to Aran

my raid requirements

dps class
burst dps (5sec) 650+dps
sustained dps (5min) 600+dps

healer
min 1000+ heal
7k hp/7kmp for cloth healer
9k hp/ 9k mp for plate healer

when everyone meets the requitement..it makes the kara run SOOOO much esier

ur at shade anyways, also have ur fair share of epics, nothing special for my part.

its call post and reply, get it? thats what you do on forums. nothing special about that either.

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Added on April 28, 2007, 2:09 ammmm very good checklist

oh oh and i pass ur dps checklist too...

~800-1.2k burst...
700-900 sustained of over 5min
\o/

our tanks getting love too for tonight... bout damn time >.>
so many raids and zero tanking gear

=edit=
oh yea, i should perhaps copy down ur post and nazi reign my raid harder too... cuz running kara with prot pallies and shit makes me wanna gouge my eyes off and squish it in front of my monitor...

gonna really require people to spec like real raiders instead of play like some buncha clowns.

myremi: tip on grabbing attument early. tc as everyone mentioned at first, then have the tank to spam his shieldslam button AND HS button as he is moving to attument (if he still didnt have aggro), once either one of it lands, it should be on the tank.

also tank midnight as further back to the stables wall as possible, so it gives your raid more time for attumen incase the tank still isnt on the ball on grabbing it.

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Apr 28 2007, 02:12 AM