yeah i believe ONLY casters whine too much

This post has been edited by sets84: May 3 2007, 07:57 AM

on a normal day
4 hours, if all goes well
that includes taking our time to slowly pull and not pushing it

but these days we usually clear upto curator and then go on to nightbane on the first day

we leave the chess and prince for the next day cos prince is the one with the loots most ppl want. and with that we usually set a rule that if nobody is willing to go and practise on the remaining bosses we wont goto prince. aran is not a sure down for us due to random factors and the fact that nobody wants to practise on the boss. we havent got our asses to even practise on netherspite yet. illhoof is another luck factor, if your tank gets sacced then its usually pretty tough on your party. then again i hardly raid these days, i dont really know what the guild is up to

yeap, imo aran is only important for the nightbane summoning thingy
if you got that done i dont really see much of a point to go back in there and fight him. illhoof is only about the staff, im playing a pally and i cbf to get the plate from him. my ideal run would be attumen, moroes, opera, curator, chess, prince, bed . save nightbane for another day for the ppl who needs to attune to ssc.

NB is a must, u got no choice on that.. Ssc attunement

and yes, top guilds do ALL bosses in 3 and half hours.

yeap but if your group can do prince easily then its just the extra mile to prince and you are calling off the group for kara. but if you want to try netherspite and illhoof, then again it's a good choice. but i really dont like the aran fight due to its randomness, just the other day we wiped on hunter snakes activating flame wreath. and pally bubble/rogue clos still isn't fixed yet.

true that. which is why i really cant be bothered to attemp kara these days. im just lacking the t4 helm and shield from chess event but i can easily overlook it. i usually just sit out the kara raids and get in to help out on nightbane

yeah kara loots are just meh, cept for the weapons and t4 helms that prince drops

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Added on May 3, 2007, 5:22 pmbtw grats on the dagger ^^

This post has been edited by sets84: May 3 2007, 05:22 PM

no
dps all the way