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TSmyremi
post Apr 17 2007, 12:37 AM, updated 19y ago

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Looking for some answers so thought I'd post here to check. smile.gif

For Attumen the Huntsman, there seems to be 2 strategy on most sites. Which one would be the easiest to follow if wearing non-heroic gear?

1. When Midnight is 30%, DPS Attumen. Longer tanking on Midnite but when he mounts up, his health is lower so cleaving is less.

2. Just DPS Midnite only. Attumen is tank to one side. However, longer session to take down Attumen so cleaving will happen more often.

Also, for the AOE curse that Attumen casts, does he cast it while mounted or only when he's standing?
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post Apr 17 2007, 01:48 AM

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QUOTE(myremi @ Apr 17 2007, 12:37 AM)
Looking for some answers so thought I'd post here to check. smile.gif

For Attumen the Huntsman, there seems to be 2 strategy on most sites. Which one would be the easiest to follow if wearing non-heroic gear?

1. When Midnight is 30%, DPS Attumen. Longer tanking on Midnite but when he mounts up, his health is lower so cleaving is less.

2. Just DPS Midnite only. Attumen is tank to one side. However, longer session to take down Attumen so cleaving will happen more often.

Also, for the AOE curse that Attumen casts, does he cast it while mounted or only when he's standing?
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post Apr 17 2007, 05:21 AM

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my guild has been following the 2nd strategy, dps midnight until attumen mount again.

the debuff is casted when attumen is dismounted.
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post Apr 17 2007, 07:05 AM

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Quazacolt : DOH. Yep, only cause I couldn't sleep not knowing what we did wrong and knowing that I'd probably get an answer from you. tongue.gif Was thinking of logging onto other servers to ask other ppl but wasn't sure if they were up that late or that they welcome me bothering them. tongue.gif Now thinking twice. tongue.gif

radiounit : Thanks. How much usually does Attunmen has when he mounts up his horse?
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post Apr 17 2007, 08:08 AM

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We also do the 2nd strat - focusing on Midnight then Attunmen.

Additional tips that can help...

1. Attunmen can be disarmed, greatly reducing his damage. In our guild's case, our MT is a feral druid and OT is prot warr. So our OT actually tanks Attunmen.

2. Cleaves are now frontal only, so rogues got some love there.

3. Aoe curses shouldnt be an issue if your raid's mages are alert.


Added on April 17, 2007, 8:16 ambtw, we use wowwiki.com for the boss strats, its quite good - you might wanna check it out (or get your Raid Leader to check it out).

This post has been edited by saingau: Apr 17 2007, 08:16 AM
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post Apr 17 2007, 08:17 AM

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QUOTE(myremi @ Apr 17 2007, 07:05 AM)
Quazacolt : DOH. Yep, only cause I couldn't sleep not knowing what we did wrong and knowing that I'd probably get an answer from you. tongue.gif Was thinking of logging onto other servers to ask other ppl but wasn't sure if they were up that late or that they welcome me bothering them. tongue.gif Now thinking twice. tongue.gif

radiounit : Thanks. How much usually does Attunmen has when he mounts up his horse?
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post Apr 17 2007, 08:50 AM

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saingau : Thx for the tip. Actually, with Wowwiki.com, it speaks about strat #1 as well as strat #2 so that's the bit that got confusing. Coupled with the fact that in WoW Raids and Dungeons forum, a lot of posts were suggesting to use strat #1. From what I gathered from the raid leaders anyway. But looking at youtube movies on the fight, most ppl use strat#2 instead.

Anyway, it was our first run last nite (with no priests either ><) and we got him down to about 5% when we wiped. The fight was taking too long on strat #1 so healers and mages (12K-13K mana) OOM very fast.

Q : tongue.gif

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post Apr 17 2007, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(myremi @ Apr 17 2007, 08:50 AM)
saingau : Thx for the tip. Actually, with Wowwiki.com, it speaks about strat #1 as well as strat #2 so that's the bit that got confusing. Coupled with the fact that in WoW Raids and Dungeons forum, a lot of posts were suggesting to use strat #1. From what I gathered from the raid leaders anyway. But looking at youtube movies on the fight, most ppl use strat#2 instead.

Anyway, it was our first run last nite (with no priests either ><) and we got him down to about 5% when we wiped. The fight was taking too long on strat #1 so healers and mages (12K-13K mana) OOM very fast.

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post Apr 17 2007, 09:37 AM

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http://www.worldofraids.com/

you can get from info of the raids in this site as well
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post Apr 17 2007, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(xiaosin @ Apr 17 2007, 09:26 AM)
drink pots!
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someone sure is kidder. before fight, healing pot, int buff, GotW. during fight, innervate, demonic rune, mana pot, innervate from another druid, tree form.

mages potting, before and during fights.
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post Apr 17 2007, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(myremi @ Apr 17 2007, 09:53 AM)
someone sure is kidder. before fight, healing pot, int buff, GotW. during fight, innervate, demonic rune, mana pot, innervate from another druid, tree form.

mages potting, before and during fights.
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sweat.gif then im speechless.... i have no idea how you guys are going oom so fast...
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QUOTE(dEvILrOx @ Apr 17 2007, 09:37 AM)
http://www.worldofraids.com/

you can get from info of the raids in this site as well
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Yeah, true although it's massive forum digging. Their Raid content section looks like it's for loot tables only. I haven't been there in awhile because I got tired of reading up info that was outdated (i.e. BC beta).
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QUOTE(myremi @ Apr 17 2007, 08:50 AM)
saingau : Thx for the tip. Actually, with Wowwiki.com, it speaks about strat #1 as well as strat #2 so that's the bit that got confusing. Coupled with the fact that in WoW Raids and Dungeons forum, a lot of posts were suggesting to use strat #1. From what I gathered from the raid leaders anyway. But looking at youtube movies on the fight, most ppl use strat#2 instead.

Anyway, it was our first run last nite (with no priests either ><) and we got him down to about 5% when we wiped. The fight was taking too long on strat #1 so healers and mages (12K-13K mana) OOM very fast.
For a first run I think thats good. Strats-wise, I'd suggest you guys try out which one works best, and stick to it. Like in our case, we find that we function better by focusing on one target, then move on. Just remind the tank (if he's warr) to disarm the joker when he/she can - you'll know he's disarmed when he does a yell along the lines of "weapons are of no use to me" or something.

Btw, I hope you like Moroes, his voice is funny, bordering on annoying smile.gif
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xiaosin : went oom because DPS too spread out I think when we switch targets. also, think it was from healing other raid members other than the tank who were taking damage. It wasn't the random charge but something else, some were just an AOE damage? in WoWwiki.com, it's mentioned that Midnite will sometimes bucked.

although, can't wait for the patch to come out now. Pots and flasks are starting to look cheaper and I do mean seriously damn cheap. http://worldofraids.free.fr/2.1.0/BT/potions-vendor.jpg

hopefully, there's no limit of the amount of potions and pots that one can buy. although the Sarge's Bullet is hilarious : more pew pew, less QQ.
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post Apr 17 2007, 10:35 AM

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sites that i got from my guild forums, some of them have pictures on positioning.. gl smile.gif

http://bosskillers.com/
http://www.dsight.be/tbc/
http://nordrassor.freehostia.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=636
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post Apr 17 2007, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(saingau @ Apr 17 2007, 10:08 AM)
For a first run I think thats good. Strats-wise, I'd suggest you guys try out which one works best, and stick to it. Like in our case, we find that we function better by focusing on one target, then move on. Just remind the tank (if he's warr) to disarm the joker when he/she can - you'll know he's disarmed when he does a yell along the lines of "weapons are of no use to me" or something.

Btw, I hope you like Moroes, his voice is funny, bordering on annoying smile.gif
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Thanks saingau. Yeah, it's just taking a bit of getting used to. Hmm....say to disarm him while he mounted, can any other warrior do it too if they are not holding aggro? Silly question I know. >< Not familiar with warrior moves.

QUOTE(xiaosin @ Apr 17 2007, 10:35 AM)
sites that i got from my guild forums, some of them have pictures on positioning.. gl  smile.gif

http://bosskillers.com/
http://www.dsight.be/tbc/
http://nordrassor.freehostia.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=636
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Thanks xiaosin. I lke the last one too. smile.gif Although the 2nd one is copy word for word from AmpWoW. ><
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post Apr 17 2007, 11:28 AM

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Yeap, any warrior can disarm him. If that warr has some talents in imp disarm (prot tree), the duration of disarm is longer.

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also, think it was from healing other raid members other than the tank who were taking damage. It wasn't the random charge but something else


Btw, bout your last posting (above quote), the only thing I can think of is the shadow cleave.

1. Are the range players standing too close?
2. Are the melee standing behind (so they dont get cleaved)?

These Qs might help.
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post Apr 17 2007, 11:37 AM

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exploit with dps pots n elixirs now b4 u cant stack em anymore! lol.
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QUOTE(Kurei @ Apr 17 2007, 11:37 AM)
exploit with dps pots n elixirs now b4 u cant stack em anymore! lol.
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SPLOITS WITH FLASKS KEKEKEKEKKEKE

seriously though, melees WILL take shadow cleaves even when ur on his ass (coming from a rogue kek, we do et from behind)

its just shadow cleave, have the rogues to evasion/clos

can reduce 1-2 of those dmg, or anticipate when its coming, sprint out sprint back. or just have them bandage self. lotsa options in your hands.
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need short n simple tips for aran..... i want prince >"<

btw last nite heard from my fren, their guild down curator @ 1st evo blink.gif

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