There is known known and known unknown.

Science cant definitely disprove the existence of ghost just as there is no scientific proof of ghost.

For now it is a known unknown until more proof, why are you so adamant about ghost being fake? I personally accept it's a known unknown for me. Not everything have to be false or true.

One of the values of a scientific mind is open mindedness, the willingness to change given new proof/discovery and accept that there will be known unknown.

Before anything, I suggest you should read what I wrote: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=86702480

I'm not saying ghosts are fake, I'm saying they don't exist.

Our current scientific understanding just doesn't go along with ghosts. I'm not saying current methods are perfect, but they're not really flawed either. Bear in mind, these understanding is what's enabling you to read what I've written here, travel to work by any mode of transportation, your phone, your life, literally almost everything nowadays is dictated by our current understanding of science, meaning it works and it's valid. To fit in ghosts and the paranormals here, a lot of fundamental things need to be changed. Sure, in the future, our understanding of the laws of nature may change, but what we're having now certainly isn't wrong. Please let's not venture into quantum topics...

sigh...

Where did you get your science education? Intangibility or the fact that something is quantifiable or not isn't a problem.

That's the thing! I couldn't say because I don't know what kind of condition you fucking have! There are a lot of factors, a lot of variables. It's not all black and white, 1s and 0s! For all I know you might have a mental condition that makes you hallucinates and see things that isn't there.

Dun care what you said. They exist. Coz i have encountered them.

Too much science for u making u hallucinate sigh... everything also need science to prove. So science also can't proved got God, hell and heaven no?

What's your point? I've also 'encountered' them several times. Still doesn't negate the possibility that it may have been visual/auditory hallucinations, visual interference etc...

I'm sure you have seen nekkid ones?
Did you oggle at them ?

to be honest, throughout my whole life, I've only encountered one incident where they try to lure me toward a "gaung" or pit. it was on some strange road. my friend was driving the car. while driving I could already see that one got in the vehicle and started to influence the thoughts of the driver. some landed on the roof of the car. 

when we finally stopped, they presented themselves as this lady giving directions to a stall. as the creatures has influenced my friend to thinking that he wants to find one. my friend saw a lady. I saw an oval shaped small floating creature beside the car and his friends above me. I found a way of snapping my friend out of his trance and pointed out that the direction they gave us led to a pit that would mean our demise.

the illusion that they made is that of a small jaga house resembled that of older times. It's the best that they could do. I concluded that they're not at all updated.

the creatures looked at me funny, but I pay them no heed initially. in the end, I kept calm and we were able to turn the car back around.

after the ordeal, I laughed on how cliche it was. this story been told by various people from all over. but it finally happened to me.

why so much hate bro,TS just telling his exp,u dont believe its up to u,no one force u to belif it either,u just focus on ur science thing   

lol wow there's no such thing as too much science. Kau ingat makanan ke apa.

No, science can't definitively prove god or heaven or hell, but no one can provide concrete evidence for them either.

to be honest, throughout my whole life, I've only encountered one incident where they try to lure me toward a "gaung" or pit. it was on some strange road. my friend was driving the car. while driving I could already see that one got in the vehicle and started to influence the thoughts of the driver. some landed on the roof of the car. 

when we finally stopped, they presented themselves as this lady giving directions to a stall. as the creatures has influenced my friend to thinking that he wants to find one. my friend saw a lady. I saw an oval shaped small floating creature beside the car and his friends above me. I found a way of snapping my friend out of his trance and pointed out that the direction they gave us led to a pit that would mean our demise.

the illusion that they made is that of a small jaga house resembled that of older times. It's the best that they could do. I concluded that they're not at all updated.

the creatures looked at me funny, but I pay them no heed initially. in the end, I kept calm and we were able to turn the car back around.

after the ordeal, I laughed on how cliche it was. this story been told by various people from all over. but it finally happened to me.

Not sure how to quantify science but i think science channel is that way --------->

This is supernatural channel