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icemanfx
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Mar 13 2019, 01:25 PM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Mar 13 2019, 12:28 PM) It got almost nothing to do with ong sector. Every sector also have ups and downs. More important factor is self financial management. You dun go out and buy 5 to 6 properties without any financial planning and saving and contigency planning. How many ppl jump off 14th floor during the stock crisis??? Ppl never learn and will never learn. Greed has no limit and they just want to cheong big without back up plan. luckily we have 6 billions population. Those experienced economic recession are unlikely to over gear. Only novices think they could beat the system. There is a sucker born every minute. In every bull run be it stocks, btc, gold, property, tulips, etc, there is a new generation of herd participating.
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icemanfx
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Mar 16 2019, 11:13 PM
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Mar 16 2019, 08:52 PM) For the 6th time re-auction back after successfully sold. Will this unit return to the 7th auction?
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icemanfx
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Mar 17 2019, 09:34 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 17 2019, 08:47 PM) No wonder someone mention Malaysian is uneducated... Eviction notice also kinda useless.. Just see the Taman manggis Penang issues... More like legal enforcement is very compassionate and sympathetic.
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icemanfx
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Mar 20 2019, 12:18 AM
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QUOTE(Donald Trump @ Mar 19 2019, 08:43 PM) that is why so many borrowers kena whacks blr penalty etc etc....npl is reaching new high...bnm langsung no power If bank fail, whole country economy could be effected; if borrower bankrupt, only borrower 14th floor. between bank and borrowers, bnm and gomen naturally protect bank unless the borrower could bring the bank down. if borrower didn't defaulted, bank couldn't charge penalty loan rate. so who is at fault on loan default/penalty loan rate? similarly for npl. btw, when donald trump defaulted his bank loan, he sued the bank. perhaps, borrowers in lyn could emulate similar act. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/18/business...pgtype=HomepageThis post has been edited by icemanfx: Mar 20 2019, 06:28 AM
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icemanfx
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Mar 21 2019, 03:02 PM
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QUOTE(Donald Trump @ Mar 21 2019, 12:26 PM) serve as a lesson to those think of buying in auction...is terribly toublesome and difficult...and for puluh ribu property need to spend years and wasted so much of your time....given that kind of time u can make much more money ....crdeit to askar perang for highlighting not only the good but also the bad side of buying in auction For reasons, auction property is only worthwhile if is substantially cheaper than mv.
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icemanfx
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Apr 26 2019, 11:02 AM
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QUOTE(lucerne @ Apr 26 2019, 10:56 AM) seems market still have lot of buyers but they prefer auction and not subsales ? how is the sub sales activities? still 70-80% from total transactions? or dropped?? Until price difference between auction and subsale is marginal, choosing auction is sensible. This post has been edited by icemanfx: Apr 26 2019, 11:02 AM
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icemanfx
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Apr 27 2019, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE(New Klang @ Apr 27 2019, 09:53 AM) I expect further units to be auction. This is just the start of a downturn. For a bbb/uuu to say this, the property market must be real bad.
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icemanfx
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May 1 2019, 10:21 AM
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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ May 1 2019, 08:52 AM) Look harder there r some nice mid size factory or smd factory which r beta than many shops now. The near future is bout ind if u get the rite ones. QUOTE(David_77 @ May 1 2019, 09:03 AM) Yeah, my brother is also asking me to stop resi and look at factories too. Will try harder 🙏 Factory is a long game, need to hold for over 10 years to see reasonable yield and price appreciation.
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icemanfx
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May 1 2019, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ May 1 2019, 10:32 AM) I second tat. How can v not listen to aunty who sold her props in 2012. 😉😊 It seems, besides selected memory or/and Alzheimer, you have tunnel vision also. If you know how much one could made from other investment since 2012, you would curse your ancestors. This post has been edited by icemanfx: May 1 2019, 02:32 PM
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icemanfx
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May 1 2019, 08:10 PM
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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ May 1 2019, 07:39 PM) KL address. Its timing boss. All bout timing. Even at current moments v need different strategy to cater for tis "timing" If timing is critical in property investment, why you still encourage other to buy when on downtrend and supply>demand? Not enough naive BBB/uuus' blood on your hands? This post has been edited by icemanfx: May 1 2019, 08:12 PM
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icemanfx
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May 2 2019, 12:09 AM
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QUOTE(leodinouknow @ May 1 2019, 09:45 PM) Fearful when others are greedy and greedy when others are fearful. *warren buffet What about those bought during 2011-2014 bull run?
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icemanfx
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May 2 2019, 10:14 AM
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QUOTE(New Klang @ May 2 2019, 09:26 AM) Is it downtrend? I see BBB everywhere. I tried to tell the BBB gang to read your message before proceeding to buy but they tell me that their friends and their friends' friends are buying with cash back and loan compression. Lambs are destined to be slaughtered. QUOTE(BeastB @ May 2 2019, 09:42 AM) Not a bad time to buy subsale now, prices have dropped a lot the past 2 years. But buying new development now is a complete waste of time. Property overhang is still expanding and rental is on down trend. Hence, more distressed subsale i.e cheaper is expected.
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icemanfx
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May 2 2019, 10:29 AM
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QUOTE(New Klang @ May 2 2019, 10:17 AM) When you take your time to search, you will find lots of gems. To me still BBB just need to be selective. If one compare asking price of a few years ago and current distressed subsale/foreclosure, there could be substantial difference i.e cheaper or gems. If you believe you could find gems now, why not find more gems later?
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icemanfx
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May 2 2019, 10:34 AM
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QUOTE(New Klang @ May 2 2019, 10:30 AM) Dont be delusional. Gems are rare. If you found it, take it or else others will. That will depend on what you consider gems, how you define rare and how much cash you have. This post has been edited by icemanfx: May 2 2019, 10:35 AM
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icemanfx
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May 2 2019, 11:59 AM
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QUOTE(BeastB @ May 2 2019, 11:19 AM) If it's a gem (to me, gem = rental covers all the expenses (installment, maintenance,etc) of the property) why not buy today and start saving up? It is not unknown for some vendors to show inflated rental agreement to entice buyers and terminate rental a few months after transaction is completed. This post has been edited by icemanfx: May 2 2019, 12:07 PM
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icemanfx
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May 2 2019, 12:12 PM
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QUOTE(Harry_Bobinski @ May 2 2019, 12:07 PM) Are you guys actually talking about apartments? For landed, I have yet to see any that has dropped in price for the past 4 years. Stagnant, yes but definitely not reduced in price. I could be wrong on this. New Klang I thought your BBB mode is landed in Semenyih area Most if not all bought with bank loan, price rise below loan interest incurred is financial losses. If price stagnant for 4 years mean loss could equivalent to about 15% of house value.
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icemanfx
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May 2 2019, 02:13 PM
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QUOTE(Harry_Bobinski @ May 2 2019, 12:20 PM) ^ 15% seem like a very inflated estimation right? Are you using the same comparison for the financial losses between a landed and an apartment? From your points, I deduce that ALL properties have dropped in value with landed not being as bad as apartment? How much accumulated loan interest one would typically incurred over a 4 years period?
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icemanfx
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May 3 2019, 08:45 AM
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QUOTE(New Klang @ May 3 2019, 08:19 AM) There is no financial losses when one buys to live in. Like all investments there are cost related to minimum holding period. It is called costs of amortization over a long period of time. However value of money depreciates over time due to inflation and hence the future monthly repayment will be chicken feed in 10 years onwards. Is accumulated loan interest incurred over 4 years period is about 15% for most? Even if loan interest is amortized, price still need to increase sufficiently to be profitable. Given the magnitude of property overhang and property price rise at about inflation rate in the long term, one will need to hold longer than most expected or big jump to be profitable. This post has been edited by icemanfx: May 3 2019, 08:49 AM
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icemanfx
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May 3 2019, 08:55 AM
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QUOTE(Harry_Bobinski @ May 3 2019, 08:50 AM) Ah okay now I see your point. Good thing I have yet to buy properties for flip interest Many failed to realize loan interest incurred is cost, and leverage amplify profits as well as losses.
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icemanfx
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May 3 2019, 09:00 AM
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QUOTE(New Klang @ May 3 2019, 08:56 AM) Whether investors or occupiers, plenty of hardwork and intelligence need to be put in as the investments are very high cost. If wealth creation is easy, there would be a lot more than 4% of adults in this country have over usd100k net worth. This post has been edited by icemanfx: May 3 2019, 09:01 AM
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