
English Clubs Chelsea FC - The Shed V47, BPL - Arsenal v Chelsea 3.45am #816/834
English Clubs Chelsea FC - The Shed V47, BPL - Arsenal v Chelsea 3.45am #816/834
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Nov 1 2017, 12:41 PM
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Nov 1 2017, 12:42 PM
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Nov 1 2017, 12:48 PM
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Nov 1 2017, 01:08 PM
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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Nov 1 2017, 09:34 AM) That's cos the way our 2 man midfield is set up, kante has been doing all the legwork for defense, while the other midfield usually goes up a little bit and create chances for our forwards I think it was not a fluke. It's just that not many team is able to counter the formation because it was so rarely used to such effectiveness. Other smaller team might tried that before us last season but due to the lack in quality players, they did not managed to pull it off.Now kante takde, bakayoko is trying to pick up the slack but as far as I can see, he's failing pretty hard Depth is only half the reason. If manager can't produce result with the resources he has, then he's not a good manager unfortunately And no, we actually got good backup but Conte rarely uses them when it's supposed to be the most natural replacement. For example, Christensen, Zappacosta Anyways, you can see that conte has no plan B, and he keeps using the same formation and lineup eventhough he knows it's not working Makes me think that he got lucky with his 3-4-3 last season and it was just a fluke after 3/4 of last season, teams started to make the formation as the new meta or start to have ways to counter the system. during summer break, this was my main concern and true to that, we still do not have Plan B. partly, this is down to Conte. the other part is on our board of directors. we have backup players, but does our backup player in the same league with what City have? other team purchase crazy upgrades and additions to the set of players they already have. we only bought REPLACEMENT... easy way for the board is definitely to kick conte out.. but when will the cycle stop? |
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Nov 1 2017, 01:12 PM
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Nov 1 2017, 01:15 PM
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QUOTE(dynames07 @ Nov 1 2017, 01:08 PM) I think it was not a fluke. It's just that not many team is able to counter the formation because it was so rarely used to such effectiveness. Other smaller team might tried that before us last season but due to the lack in quality players, they did not managed to pull it off. the cycle will not stop, board think coach is expendable~after 3/4 of last season, teams started to make the formation as the new meta or start to have ways to counter the system. during summer break, this was my main concern and true to that, we still do not have Plan B. partly, this is down to Conte. the other part is on our board of directors. we have backup players, but does our backup player in the same league with what City have? other team purchase crazy upgrades and additions to the set of players they already have. we only bought REPLACEMENT... easy way for the board is definitely to kick conte out.. but when will the cycle stop? unless Abramovich sell the club |
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Nov 1 2017, 01:25 PM
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QUOTE(kucingmainan @ Nov 1 2017, 12:02 PM) After watching the full highlight, look like the usual suspects with an introduction of Antonio Rudiger cost us the game. Defense shockingly bad. Shockingly Conte allow complacency in our rock solid and discipline defense....- Bakayoko still losing possession. Not half as good as matic whole season bar his performance vs Spurs. - Luiz still look uninterested. - Alonso still can't defend. - fab still average. Surprise addition. - rudiger trying hard to get the worse defender award. This kind of defense will leak goals vs United, provided that mou opt for attacking approach. Our defensive solidity last year seem gone |
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Nov 1 2017, 01:26 PM
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QUOTE(dynames07 @ Nov 1 2017, 01:08 PM) I think it was not a fluke. It's just that not many team is able to counter the formation because it was so rarely used to such effectiveness. Other smaller team might tried that before us last season but due to the lack in quality players, they did not managed to pull it off. Regardless of the result, Conte will walk out eventually anyways after 3/4 of last season, teams started to make the formation as the new meta or start to have ways to counter the system. during summer break, this was my main concern and true to that, we still do not have Plan B. partly, this is down to Conte. the other part is on our board of directors. we have backup players, but does our backup player in the same league with what City have? other team purchase crazy upgrades and additions to the set of players they already have. we only bought REPLACEMENT... easy way for the board is definitely to kick conte out.. but when will the cycle stop? |
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Nov 1 2017, 01:27 PM
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Nov 1 2017, 01:31 PM
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i ok with the defeat. i already said that we can only afford 1 lose 1 draw and 1 win. but looking at last night result, atm draw with qarabag means we can afford to lose 2 game but need to win 1 more game. so vs roma already 1 lose. if win agaist qarabag but lose against atm still can qualify.
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Nov 1 2017, 01:44 PM
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QUOTE(lol~ @ Nov 1 2017, 01:31 PM) i ok with the defeat. i already said that we can only afford 1 lose 1 draw and 1 win. but looking at last night result, atm draw with qarabag means we can afford to lose 2 game but need to win 1 more game. so vs roma already 1 lose. if win agaist qarabag but lose against atm still can qualify. With that kind of mentality, how far do you think we'll go once we reach knockout stages? Also, runner up will usually meet champions of another group. Willing to bet if we finish runner up we will most likely meet... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Nov 1 2017, 02:22 PM
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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Nov 1 2017, 01:44 PM) With that kind of mentality, how far do you think we'll go once we reach knockout stages? even tho we play beautiful still cant make it tru the stage, what for? Also, runner up will usually meet champions of another group. Willing to bet if we finish runner up we will most likely meet... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « even tho we lost in quater or semi, still get more money compare to stage group. isnt that what board want? money? surely i want more but what can we expect for our current situation? i just hope conte stays and board have patient. they are part of the downfall for this season. and i hope board will invest more (which is very unlikely to happen) |
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Nov 1 2017, 02:29 PM
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When times like this especially when we're down by an early less than a minute goal we need of motivation captain. This is where Chelsea are missing John Terry or Frank Lampard and Didier Drogba............. This post has been edited by jovigrunge: Nov 1 2017, 02:34 PM |
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Nov 1 2017, 02:47 PM
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3-4-3 defo not a fluke. 13 wins in a row, very hard to top that.
just that in the EPL, teams adapt fast. every manager would be spending the off season plotting out the 3-4-3 system and find its weaknesses. feel like we might be missing some experience from the old guard for UCL situations like this. |
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Nov 1 2017, 03:06 PM
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QUOTE(yokoloco @ Nov 1 2017, 02:47 PM) 3-4-3 defo not a fluke. 13 wins in a row, very hard to top that. one is so fast to jump into conclusion is a fluke...loljust that in the EPL, teams adapt fast. every manager would be spending the off season plotting out the 3-4-3 system and find its weaknesses. feel like we might be missing some experience from the old guard for UCL situations like this. |
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Nov 1 2017, 03:24 PM
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when lost the meltdown begins
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Nov 1 2017, 03:41 PM
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Nov 1 2017, 04:08 PM
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QUOTE(yokoloco @ Nov 1 2017, 02:47 PM) 3-4-3 defo not a fluke. 13 wins in a row, very hard to top that. We don't have that kind of players who can perform consistently this season so my suggestion was a temporary change of system against Roma might not be a bad idea considering Roma's unbeaten record in the group table and playing in their own stadium. I do agree that we are missing real experience players tho. just that in the EPL, teams adapt fast. every manager would be spending the off season plotting out the 3-4-3 system and find its weaknesses. feel like we might be missing some experience from the old guard for UCL situations like this. QUOTE(lyc1982 @ Nov 1 2017, 03:06 PM) I didn't claimed 3-4-3 as a fluke but just for this Roma game, we needed a defensive formation considering the factors mentioned above. QUOTE(SlomoX @ Nov 1 2017, 03:24 PM) Only if you are a true concern Chelsea fan........... |
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Nov 1 2017, 04:10 PM
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Nov 1 2017, 04:18 PM
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QUOTE(jovigrunge @ Nov 1 2017, 04:10 PM) Mourinho won't play for a draw like Spurs. It's going to be all ManU attacking strategy methinks..... we know mou very well, mou know chelsea very wellhe will locks hazard, press our defenders + gk and try to get the ball in our half we cant do anything but just long pass to their half and lost possession |
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