Well VB still did manage to help win constructor's while SP did enough damage to help MV wins driver's. But yeah VB on his day can be briliant for example Turkey this year but given his car it's unacceptable that few times he was nowhere like in Imola and this Abu Dhabi race.

Yup correct, Suzuka gave Alonso a significant points lead and Brazil sealed it for him, both due to MS having reliability issues.

Overall I think yes but like you said mainly due to it's reliability and cosistency, not necessarily pure pace. First half looked to be RB but 2nd half seemed Merc so about 50/50 in speed. This is difficult to judge because SP is only in his first year and not as consistent hence RB still lost constructor which is normally a good indicator of car performance. If RB also won constructor, then easier to say RB is also a better car.

This post has been edited by 6UE5T: Dec 14 2021, 09:24 AM

Yup maybe that first 1 month after getting covid he was not yet in perfect condition but still able to push hard to perform. Some of his uncharacteristic dip of performance as far as I recall were Imola (where he still got lucky due to VB/GR crash), Baku (his worse mistake), Monaco (real dip in performance), Turkey (I expected him at least on the podium in this condition despite his penalty), plus their wrong strategy call in Hungary.

High drama, high controversy, equally divided fans, surely all the recipe for spicy! Lol

Me as a neutral F1 fan love it! Lol To me in hindsight, I never really agree with that F1 rule to allow overlapped cars to unlap during SC. That rule is purely just to spice up racing artificially and add unfairness to whoever in the lead. If those cars already overlapped, why they get to unlap for free? If the leader already lapped those cars to have buffer to his lead, why it's taken away to the benefit of the chasing pack? By right the chasing pack should also do the same to try overlap those slower cars again in fairness. Anyway it's unavoidable during SC that the lead car already has his lead cut, so allowing overlapped cars to unlap is just making it worse. If this rule doesn't exist, this controversy will not happen in the first place just like in the olden days.

This post has been edited by 6UE5T: Dec 14 2021, 11:26 AM

No, still not enough points. They're suspected to be running a bit lighter on fuel for him to keep up. He might run out so they pulled him out so not to add another SC.

Got, there are some photos/videos flying around instagram on their party where Toto got drunk.

Nobert Haug also suggests Mercs to just drop it and accept. Most likely whatever happens will still not change the result.

Naah if he is WDC then it's his right to use no.1. In hindsight, he deserves to win anyway if we look at his performances for the whole season as he wss the more consistent than LH who had more dips and big mistakes.

As expected, they know no matter what the result will not change so just accept gracefully.

I am actually hoping other teams like Ferrari and McLaren or even Alpine to get back to the front. It would be great if suddenly both Merc and RB start on the back foot as they have spent so much effort to win this year, hence next year becomes Ferrari vs McLaren instead! Lol

Beating VB once doesn't mean can beat LH la! LH is better than VB in every aspect. I just hope GR doesn't get destroyed by LH next year, that's already a good achievement.

This post has been edited by 6UE5T: Dec 16 2021, 08:38 PM

Let's just say MV deserves the WDC but LH doesn't deserve to lose it in such controversial manner.

While we praise LH and Mercs for accepting defeat gracefully, Toto and LH snub the FIA Gala Event. 😆

Mercs was also supposed to send bkth their F1 and E-Formula cars for photoshoot as the double constructor winning team but they cancelled. Lol

Anyway in his speech during the gala, Todt reminded everyone how unlucky MV was in Baku, Silverstone, and Hungary so in a whole season MV does deserve the WDC.

He will only feel justice if he won it la! 😄 Only 2 scenarios allow him to win, red flag restart or finish under SC. Letting the rest pass but still race under green will still be a lost for him. Restarting with still lapped cars in between LH and MV is also not following regulation so not fair to MV.

Yup Mercs also had tried all tricks they can think of during their domination, it's just the nature of the sport. Nobody is innocent and completely fair. LH himself had experienced plenty of luck to be able to win so much. Nobody wins title without any luck and pushing the boundaries of the rules.

Who else managed to change tires? I cannot really recall. If CS did, then he might get thru as well. YT did changed but maybe too far back to reach LH cuz after the 2 straights there's no more overtaking spot.

Rub salt in the wound?

https://www.planetf1.com/news/hamilton-puni...-fia-gala-snub/

I think LH will continue cuz he wants to break the record. He will retire once he achieved that or at some point when he knows he cannot anymore if the car is not competitive.

Toto is not mandatory I think but LH is. Probably some fines only.

Yup I think his only target now is just win 1 more until 2023. If he wins it, he might retire afterwards. If he cannot get it by then, he may or might not continue, depending on how competitive they are.

Meanwhile LH team also lost to Rosberg in the last race of their Extreme E championship.

LH team actually won the race but NR team gains enough points to be level then wins the title on countback of more total wins in a season.

So driver who crashes the most in 2021 is MS Jr.! Lol
https://www.planetf1.com/news/driver-crash-...age-costs-2021/