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post Jan 7 2018, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Jan 5 2018, 02:06 PM)
Spike ER kira as antiship missile kah?
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post Jan 7 2018, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Jan 7 2018, 12:31 PM)

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Yeah that's what I thought... comparable to the Hellfires mounted on US LCS for anti-suicide boat swarm, though with more range of course.

Nowhere near even Kongsberg Penguin missile...
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post Jan 7 2018, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Jan 7 2018, 02:00 PM)
coupled with its high-profile flight and relatively slow speed i think even a standard 30mm rcws cannon can defeat it..

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Issue is accuracy probably

Spike ER naval is not wire-guided surely?!

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post Jan 7 2018, 11:35 PM

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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Jan 7 2018, 02:43 PM)
Issue is accuracy probably

Spike ER naval is not wire-guided surely?!
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Over water and waves...?!
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post Jan 8 2018, 02:48 AM

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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Jan 7 2018, 11:43 PM)
you can barely see the fiber optic wires early in the video
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Yeah I can see em

Earlier wire-guided ATGMs eg TOW-1 couldn't be fired over even lakes or rivers as they were not quite waterproof

Guess modern ATGMs don't have that problem any more. And to be able to resist the wires breaking from wave action is something.

QUOTE(balambgarden @ Jan 8 2018, 12:13 AM)
So for an anti-ship missile, it doesn't do what an antiship missile supposed to do?
Ain't fast nor does it has sea skimming ability?
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As DDG says, more of an anti-boat missile tongue.gif Because it's really an anti-tank missile you see. Suitable for taking out pirate boats I guess.

The range is tiny, it's a little bit slower, only around Mach 0.5 (normal antiship missile speed is Mach 0.8) and the warhead isn't that big, perhaps 6kg to 8kg max. so the blast equivalent I'd estimate is something like a 155mm artillery shell... maybe a bit less.

Compare that with other anti-SHIP munitions: a 500-pound gravity bomb has about 11 times as much explosive (~90kg), Kongsberg NSM (which our Gowind will use) 15 times, and Exocet antiship missile 20 times...

This is a video of a Skjold-class corvette firing a Kongsberg NSM on an old Norwegian Navy ship. Check out what's left of the ship afterwards.



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post Jan 8 2018, 08:26 AM

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QUOTE(bereev @ Jan 8 2018, 07:34 AM)
not sink also  whistling.gif
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can hit waterline if they want to, but sometimes the target is the ship superstructure in order to damage key systems like CIC, sensors, propulsion, weapons

but also because in exercises they can shoot some more at the target if they don't sink it straightaway tongue.gif
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post Jan 8 2018, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(bereev @ Jan 8 2018, 08:28 AM)
oh keep it for next exercises  laugh.gif
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shoot some more in the same exercise lah

yeah, the best antiship weapon is a torpedo

but antiship missiles now are very accurate - look at this other NSM test video, that is deliberately aimed at the target containers rather than the barge/platform on which they are stacked



compared to this Greek Navy firing of Exocet missile which is aimed lower down at the waterline


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post Jan 8 2018, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ Jan 8 2018, 09:22 AM)
Sub ops....in ASuW... sub will attack high value unit (log ship, aircraft carrier etc) with torpedo to sink it....and the escorts (DDG, FFG etc) with missile just to paralyse it
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very sensible rclxms.gif

wait, Msia sub have sub-launched Exocet?

QUOTE(LTZ @ Jan 8 2018, 09:25 AM)
We cant aim where to hit for exocet, it will aim itself where to hit...depending on the target  acquired...the final manouvre before hitting
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I see

but missiles like Harpoon can opt for either sea-skimming or pop-up final manoeuvre right? Exocet?
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post Jan 8 2018, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jan 8 2018, 01:22 PM)
Ok Poseidon tu naik balik nama dia pasal no 1, salesman talk
terutama bila Boeing tau yang Malaysia have huge cash tu splurge from MMRCA punya budget

Aku juga prefer poseidon/neptune sebenarnya pasal it is a complete package
Norway beli 5 Poseidon for USD1.2 billion flyaway cost
since ini US, tak payah risau la pasal songlap pasal semua ledger accessible from congress

oh so Singapore la you! tongue.gif
jk jk  laugh.gif

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That Poseidon is not gonna launch Exocet beb brows.gif
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post Jan 11 2018, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Jan 9 2018, 12:19 PM)
arab pilots..  doh.gif

just put on throttle and throw flares..
no attempt for evasive maneuver?
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what I thought too doh.gif
QUOTE(giantgot @ Jan 9 2018, 12:40 PM)
Arabs + anything = trash.
Have you learnt nothing from the Israeli-Arab wars biggrin.gif
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some people here insist its ALL because US help rolleyes.gif

forgetting that Soviet help to the Arabs is documented to be even MORE rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Jan 10 2018, 12:35 PM)
looks like towed decoy is the latest decoy tech nowadays
seems the europeans is way ahead of their americans bros in this department
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Eurofighter Typhoon had it for quite some time brows.gif

then again F-15 is pretty legacy

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the "latest" development is mini-drones dropped from chaff ejector rack

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post Jan 11 2018, 04:12 PM

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Russia Says January 5th Attack On Its Syrian Air Base Was By A Swarm Of Drones

sos: http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/17493...swarm-of-drones

Russia's Ministry of Defense made the following press release early on January 8th, 2017:

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Security system of the Russian Khmeimim air base and Russian Naval CSS point in the city of Tartus successfully warded off a terrorist attack with massive application of unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) through the night of 5th – 6th January, 2018.

As evening fell, the Russia air defence forces detected 13 unidentified small-size air targets at a significant distance approaching the Russian military bases.

Ten assault drones were approaching the Khmeimim air base, and another three – the CSS point in Tartus.

Six small-size air targets were intercepted and taken under control by the Russian EW units. Three of them were landed on the controlled area outside the base, and another three UAVs exploded as they touched the ground.

Seven UAVs were eliminated by the Pantsir-S anti-aircraft missile complexes operated by the Russian air defence units on 24-hours alert.

The Russian bases did not suffer any casualties or damages.

The Khmeimim air base and Russian Naval CSS point in Tartus are functioning on a scheduled basis.

Currently, the Russian military experts are analyzing the construction, technical filling and improvised explosives of the captured UAVs.

Having decoded the data recorded on the UAVs, the specialists found out the launch site.

It was the first time when terrorists applied a massed drone aircraft attack launched at a range of more than 50 km using modern GPS guidance system. Technical examination of the drones showed that such attacks could have been made by terrorists at a distance of about 100 kilometers.

Engineering decisions applied by terrorists while attacks on the Russian objects in Syria could be received from one of countries with high-technological capabilities of satellite navigation and remote dropping control of professionally assembled improvised explosive devices in assigned coordinates. All drones of terrorists are fitted with pressure transducers and altitude control servo-actuators.

Terrorists’ aircraft-type drones carried explosive devices with foreign detonating fuses.

The Russian specialists are determining supply channels, through which terrorists had received the technologies and devices, as well as examining type and origin of explosive compounds used in the IEDs.

The fact of usage of strike aircraft-type drones by terrorists is the evidence that militants have received technologies to carry out terrorist attacks using such UAVs in any country."


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Russia Confirms Syria Attack But Denies Seven Aircraft Got Destroyed As Photos Emerge

sos: http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/17365...s-photos-emerge

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The Russian Ministry of Defense has acknowledged an attack on its Khmeimim air base in Syria, but has disputed key details from an initial report, denying that seven aircraft had been destroyed in the incident. At the same time, unconfirmed pictures have begun emerging on social media showing significant damage to at least one Su-24 Fencer attack plane.

On Jan. 4, 2017, the Russia’s Ministry of Defense, by way of state-run media outlet TASS, said militants had attacked Khmeimim, also known as Hmeimim or Hmeymim, and killed two Russian service members in the process. The Kremlin did not say if there were any other casualties, but insisted that earlier reports that the assault had destroyed seven aircraft were categorically false. On Jan. 3, 2017, independent Russian daily Kommersant had reported this detail and that the enemy force had wounded 10 individuals, citing unnamed diplomatic sources.

"On December 31, 2017, at nightfall, the Hmeymim airfield came under a sudden mortar fire from a mobile militant subversive group,” the Russian Ministry of Defense said, according to TASS. “A report in the Kommersant newspaper on the alleged destruction of seven Russian warplanes at the Hmeymim airbase is fake. Russia’s air group in Syria is combat ready and continues to accomplish all its missions in full.”

It is important to note that this denial does not say militants were not successful in destroying any aircraft, just that the report of seven aircraft destroyed in total is inaccurate. And the reported loss of aircraft would hardly render the Russian air contingent in Syria combat ineffective.

According to Kommersant, militants had destroyed four Su-24 Fencer attack planes, two Su-35S fighter jets, and an An-72 tactical transport. Past satellite imagery has shown as many as six Su-35s and nearly a dozen Su-24s, along with a variety of other fighter and ground attack aircraft, such as the very active Su-25 Frogfoots, on the ground at the base.


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post Jan 13 2018, 04:30 PM

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"soon"

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post Jan 18 2018, 10:52 AM

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Interesting question

Tactical nukes increase likelihood of employment in war

But possession of tactical nukes decrease likelihood of war being declared

How?

QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Jan 17 2018, 12:24 PM)
Koh Swee Lean Collin is a research fellow with the maritime security programme at the Nanyang Technological University's S Rajaratnam School of International Studies.
Read more at https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asiapa...-t-be-a-9867212
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Dumbass analyst

Go criticise US Navy and Royal Navy la then, use carrier for HADR response doh.gif
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post Jan 21 2018, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Jan 21 2018, 02:37 PM)

'His voice return was very shaky’: RSAF fighter jet crew that intercepted ‘unknown’ aircraft tell their tale

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So where is Singapore's ADIZ?
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post Jan 22 2018, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Jan 22 2018, 01:27 PM)
Two most likely

Pakistan or thailand. The later have better chance
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Paki relationship shaky ever since OBL raid (and before), plus yindians now US new best friend laugh.gif

hey maybe they'll let us have some! icon_idea.gif
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post Jan 24 2018, 07:36 PM

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korang layanlah Tigerlion bodoh
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post Jan 28 2018, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Jan 26 2018, 12:02 PM)
Indonesian Navy Power Projection By 2023.

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Cute graphic, abit lacking in information though

How much is new build, how much is existing?

What are they going to do with so many hospital ships?! rclxub.gif
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post Jan 29 2018, 07:29 PM

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Where can I get a list of active ATM regiments?

Just want to know more about our army smile.gif

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post Jan 29 2018, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jan 25 2018, 08:14 AM)
For those actually interested to learn about Malaysian military policies and doctrines, can refer to this policy paper released by MINDEF:

Malaysia's National Defence Policy

Quite interesting read. nod.gif
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sorry, most of it seems fairly meaningless.

notable parts to me:

1) Bersih is mentioned (not by name) as a security threat but the paper avoids pointing out China as the main aggressor in the Spratly issue doh.gif

2) in defiance of GOVERNMENT statistics, ATM/Mindef via this policy paper seems to believe the "racial gap is widening" doh.gif doh.gif

3) No mention of MH17 or its effect on Msia-Russia relationships. Pity.

4) I didn't know we ratified the Ottawa convention. Did we operate any antipersonnel mines before?

Following on to 4), seems we did not ratify the Cluster munitions ban brows.gif do we have any cluster bombs?
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post Feb 1 2018, 12:27 AM

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Operation Olive Branch not interesting enough for anyone here to cover?

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