Ken,

Haha...actually i am being picky for the color more..but wanna explore cheaper ones which still perform resonably well..

Azam,

The cheaper Jagwires u mentioned, are those in plastic packaging in a roll, instead of some costly ones in a box form? I survey shops and most i see are jagwires in box and very pricy.

Mine is only rd..maybe can get away with just one pack. Thx for the detail explanation.

Finally gotten my litepro crankset...looks wise thumbs up, weight plus bb, almost 0.5kg lighter overall compared to all needed stuff for my old square taper cranksset. However, drive train got noisier when pedalling harder..Hopefully its just new chainring not wear in yet with existing old chain.

Had a chat with bike mechanic bout this issue, he says two possibilities :

1) Chainring doesnt look as rigid due to very thin and light..higher pedal load may flex it and some chain rub noise. Sounds plausible to me, but certainly doesnt feel in buffiness like the shimano road cranks.
He reason u don't see Shimanos making this kinda light and thin cranks, if it works well..it would have been done and marketted....hmm.


2) My back hub is actually busted, and the cogs actually sway in motion when the wheel spins. Didnt aware that cogs could actually goyang around..likely the cup cone bearings is unseated, thus imbalance.

Gonna do a wheelset change this weekend, and hope the whirring sound is due to my back hubs. If not, will be pulling hairs again.

After the short period of a few years owning a foldie..sometimes i wonder if i should just ditch it, as there seem so many maintenance and problematic issues arised off and on.
Frame creaking, handlepost getting loose, drivetrain weirdness ...sigh...starting to wear me off.

Owning a MTB has been rocksolid without facing much issues.

But , i like riding and owning a foldie...hahaha....hence soldier on..

And i had thoughts of possibility getting a tern verge copy of fnhon frame , ..haha.. probably should scrap the idea.

My is a lowly dahon vitesse, and i thought these should be some decent...

Yeah..that frame design..sporty..how is the frame?

Hi Str33tboy,

Saw Sifu Azam mentioned bout me gotten the frame.
It's also partly due to Azam posted the Fnhon Tornado that he setup earlier that got me interested as well.

Yeah, its a great looking frame..love the Verge looks, and as i can't afford a Verge, this is the closest i can get to it.
So far has been using it like maybe 3 weeks ..and i dont have any issues with it like creaks, flexy or poor fold mechanism.
I ride almost everyday on it on short distance (total +/-200km so far) ..so i have a bit of run time on it to comment a little.

Compared to my Dahon Vitesse, i felt its more agile, feels lighter on foot and definitely stiffer. Can't say if that is actually better but different. Geometry is a bit different.

I also inspected the the frame and its folding clasp, and i can say that i like the construction of the frame and feels up there with my Dahon..based on my limited experience. I agree with what Azam said about the good quality of the frame.
Only time will tell if it holds up well, but even Dahons still faced creaks issue and need tuning once a while.

I was tinkering with 451 wheelset idea for future, and ur thinking the other swithing to 406..haha.

You can PM me anytime if u wanna know more and will gladly help. I also gain knowledge from the sifus here.
I bought the frame from a FB seller, and i can direct you to him if ur interested in Fnhon Tornado or Crius Velocity.

Also, Azam's recommendation on getting the cheaper Verge variant sounds good too, if u really want a Tern name on it.

Looks very close to Tornado frame..maybe made by the same factory.

Check out this site : The guy is currently building this frame set

https://handsonbike.blogspot.com/p/crius-aev20.html

Not a good idea to install below 53T chainring for foldie 20inch..U will max out or lack of high speed gear real quick..especially coming down a slope. I think minimal also at least 52T la...unless u always riding relek relek only.

There is disk brake version of Tornado if u wanna run disk brake set up...and it looks cooler to me actually.
U still need the front brakes for safety, back brake wont save u in emergency situation. Dont omit that.

wah..What magic special wax u guys using?
Im trying the Adreno wax and its works good so far..only not so cost effective for price/ml per bottle.

Keen to try out the SquirtLube soon..price /ml seems cheap compared to other lubes.

Speaking of the Heart rate sensor thingy...im not into this stuff yet, and have not much idea what the purpose of it for cycling. RB frens use them, just didnt thought foldie kakis use them too.
To our heart rate training zone and not to overblown fuse?

I was at Rodalink klang last Saturday, and there is a Link b7 (Deep Red) is nice. Likely can be had for rm1400-1500.

The camp thunderbolt, from pictures it looks nice..but when i saw the actual bike and wasn't too impressed as compared to photos.
Frame build doesnt look good and it is very heavy, but u get the 2x chainring set up, and disk brakes if that matters to u. Moreover, when and if ur develop serious interest later on, likely u will dump those components.

I like the Link visually better than the Vybe, and K3 looks very unique to me. The red Link looks real hot !!
For the almost same amount of money within ur budget, the dahon or Tern entry models will be a better brand/frame to buy, if u happen to develop more interest into cycling, and do some upgrades from there.

But if you only intend to buy one and ride, and later move on to higher end bikes...then buy any which u feel good and right to ur budget.

And yeah,

Wanna add the K3 welding is so smooth, and unique sporty frame. i might actually fall for it as well if im buying my first foldie..I havent one rode before, maybe some who have can help advice on it.

For that Cateye front light, if u intend to use it as blinker, then boleh la, but not worth the money for that. If ur intend as night light to light up ur path, forget about it..its totally useless for that..its crap as that is my first light too.
I would say for that red back blinker too. Coz both runs on AAA batteries..u will change batteries a lot..

Cheap rechargeable blinkers from MR DIY..like RM10-15, will do a much better job. As for the front light, u will need to spend a bit more ..like those with 300 lumens ( RM150+/-) rechargeable ones. Cateye, Lezyne, Moon etc ..this is suggested if u intend to ride night. You would not regret getting a better front light, it will serve you well, as blinker, bike light, and best of all, as torchlight during black out. And wont get obsolete.

In short, for budget..Back blinkers ..Mr DIY will do, Front Light..don't buy models from Mr DIY, or Decathlon.

And yeah, u can get lots of cheaper bike stuff from Decathlon too.

Im running 451 with skinny ass 1 3/8 tires now, previously 406 with 2.0 Apples, and off the memory, i still think 451 combo diameter definitely is still larger. But Big Apples really sized up the diameter of 406, thats for sure. Unless ur 2.2 tires are special homebrew and super tall...haha...

According to what i read, and have experience, fatter tires theoratically rolls quicker, only if all things being equal, like same pressure, and same weight, but in actual, probably it wont be all things equal.
Like u said, a separate topic altogether.

How's those Kwick Roller by the way..im scouting too, and so far, Maxxis Torch, DTH and some nameless Innova for 1 3/8" locally.

Ahpingko, and others who wish to carry kids on foldie.

Here's what i can comment on using a foldie for carrying kids, based on my experience.

1) Frame mounting model
Most likely u can't use a frame mount type for foldie, if urs is a 20inch foldie. I have seen pictures of ppl used it, mount the bracket on the Seat post, but im very wary of that method...unless ur seat post is damn
strong one, and ur kid is still very light. And its highy instable due to high centre of gravity on a small foldie. Bike can tilt over if ur not careful.

2) Rear Carrier mounting model
Locks on ur rear carrier, more stable due to low height. Problem is, harder to find a good one. Polisport has those but kinda rare these days.
Problem is : Std Rear rack may be too low..Your feet may whack the leg of the seat when ur cycle. Very uncomfy to compensate. Unless ur rack is those touring kind with elevated rack
Weight issue.. Seat may take 22 kg, but likely the rear rack will not..as its only rated 10kg and rest on a few screws. Worakable if kids is still lightweight.

3) Front mounting resting on Body tube..no experience on that, but some forumers here might have use them and can advise u.

4) In summary, get a bigger bike, like a cheap mtb will suffice, or a touring bike for child carrying. Its much more stable and safer.

Now i carry using my mtb using a frame mounting model. Its just better and safer this way.

Hahaha..as for my case, its numb dick for me, when i first started wearing those tight death grip lycras....

I would suggest looking at those saddles with groove opening in the middle...or ur saddle maybe tilting too backwards.

Hi Canon,

Im the guy you talked to and pointed u to the Verge...we meet again in forum..haha.

Lots of sifus here can advise and guide you on the upgrades..no worries.
For the money, u definitely made a great buy. As u are new into foldies, you probably dont realise yet how good ride the Verge is, until u start riding most within the price bracket +/- that u paid for.

And of course the brand and model does matters..just like everything else in life..just how much u place the importance in them, and every different things we place different priorities.

Getting the bike is one, now upgrading and modifications will be a new journey..the expectations and needs will grow as you gets better, and peer pressure..enjoy...

[quote=azamunekurone,Nov 30 2018, 08:20 AM]
if u like disc brake, then take it.
i am no fan of disc brake. heavy also, the simplicity of vbrake/caliper are more convinient for me.

gearing is a 2nd choice for me. u can put any groupset later but a good frame is the best factor. u dont want to feel any wobble or silly sound on ur frame esp the hinge and clamp right?

if u cant find Mu, try scouting for Vigor. its a good predecessor of vector frame now know as verge.
the vector is design by joshua hon when working with dahon. after few conflict with his father, he open up tern and mod his vector design to verge.

its a good frame and sexy.

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I angkat kaki and tangan support what Azam says...

Verge the way to go...hahaha..or a Dahon Vigor...

There is a very new looking used Silver Vigor D9 at sale now in BBS at RM1600 now..not sure if still there...better be quick.

Just make a jump from RM1k budget to this. I seriously think this is a good buy. I would have jump at it if it was two moths ago...haha

Canon,

Since ur running the 105 crankset, as single chainring..u will need the some sort of chain guide. Normally FD act as one, but u do not have.
Two choices u have:

1) Use a Narrow wide chain ring...
2) Use the Tern Chain Guide..can easily purchase in BBS or Rodalink shop. I have use it with great results before.

Obviously option 2 is the way to go, since u will wanna use ur 105 chainring as well.

Small issue, easily rectifiable.