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Kim Bi Jan
post Aug 14 2017, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(balambgarden @ Aug 14 2017, 11:02 AM)
lots of chair died
rip..
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post Aug 14 2017, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(neoFluidic @ Aug 14 2017, 10:45 AM)
U failed badly ahhaha

No wondrr umno going down hill
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post Aug 14 2017, 11:19 AM

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Backfired mightily for Mahathir - noticed he dodged almost all the hard questions.

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post Aug 14 2017, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(silent_stalker @ Aug 14 2017, 10:44 AM)
Yeap. 1mdb yang cakap ada kat cayman island.

Cuba je la google 1mdb cayman island. Banyak result. Sila la baca
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result banyak datang dari single source, WSJ..even yang report tu pelbagai media, depa banyak ambil dari source yang sama, WSJ..WSJ ni taraf berita dia sama ja macam Sarawak Report, tak credible..sekarang Claire Recastle Brown pun gagal nak kemukakan bukti di mahkamah London berkenaan semua tuduhan2 dia berkaitan1MDB, Najib & duit RM90juta bagi kat PAS..so ini menunjukkan apa?

1MDB punya balance sheet ada RM51b aset

so duit apa yang hilang? berapa banyak hilang? RM42b macam yang Tun M habaq ka? cuba explain sat berapa sebenarnya yang hilang
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post Aug 14 2017, 11:35 AM

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plot twist - mahathir is helping najib and bn all along by joining them to do some internal mess.

This plot twist will definately answer bunch of question on why/what/who/when/how.
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post Aug 14 2017, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(darth5zaft @ Aug 14 2017, 05:55 AM)
thought arwah ibrahim libya was a jihadist?
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1. first of all, there's no such word as 'jihadi'. it's a corrupted arab word by supposedly-smart western journos to describe person who is on a path of jihad.

the correct term for that would be a mujahid. just as how a person who professes Islam is a Muslim.

2. so is ibrahim libya a mujahid? depends on who you asked.

the end reward for a mujahid who dies in battle is martyrdom (syahid).

PAS claims those who died in memali are syuhada (ppl die in syahid)

meanwhile the national the fatwa council declared those who died in memali are not syuhada.

my opinion? "pahala dan dosa kerja Allah".

3. more important question, why ibrahim libya claimed his fight against the govt./police/etc. as a jihad?

and that's where the amanat haji hadi comes in.

further reading:

http://ww1.utusan.com.my/utusan/Rencana/20...wang-1981-salah

http://drmaza.com/home/?p=2255

http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...dosa-amanatnya/

TL;DR ibrahim libya blinded by amanat haji hadi awang...

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post Aug 14 2017, 11:46 AM

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Apa yang saya dapat rumuskan dari membaca komen-komen mengenai majlis Nothing To Hide 2 adalah ketidapuasan para hadirin mendengar jawapan yang di beri oleh Tun Mahathir.

Jawapannya mengenai Memali pula berjaya menimbulkan kemarahan apabila Tun memberi jawapan bagaikan nyawa orang Melayu Islam adalah tidak berharga.

Ada besar kemungkinannya insiden baling selipar dan kerusi adalah terancang terlebih dahulu dan saya syak oleh ahli-ahli kumpulan Armada juga, yang berselisih faham dengan Ketua Armada, Syed Sidiq, penganjur dan organiser majlis tersebut pada minggu lepas.

Betul, ada penyokong UMNO di majlis itu tetapi setelah beliau menyampaikan soalan beliau, beliau terus pulang dan tidak ada di Dewan itu.

Pokok-pangkalnya, Tun Mahathir masih ingat orang-ramai boleh menerima taktik beliau memberi jawapan sinis yang beliau lazim gunakan untuk menepis soalan-soalan sensitif.
Dunia sudah berubah. Rakyat Malaysia tidak boleh di senyapkan dengan mengurung orang dengan ISA.

Rakyat tidak akan senyap dengan menarik lesen-lesen suratkhabar.

Rakyat tidak akan senyap dengan di buang kerja atau di pecat.

Memberi jawapan sinis dan angkuh hanya akan membawa kemarahan.

Itulah sebenarnya punca pergaduhan semalam.


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post Aug 14 2017, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(keown83 @ Aug 14 2017, 10:26 AM)
Duit apa yang hilang? sampai sekrang tiada bukti ada duit hilang

1MDB sendiri pun dah maklum tiada duit yang hilang dari 1MDB

dalam parlimen pun dah bagitau..PAC pun x habaw ada duit hilang..so duit apa yang hilang?

dah banyak kali explain masih tak paham2 lagi

la ni Claire Recastle Brown pun dah kantoi tak dapat bagi bukti kat mahkamah London yang semua tuduhan dia dari duit 1MDB sampai duit rm90 juta PAS terima dari Najib tu betgul & bukan fitnah semata-mata

itu menunjukkan apa?
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umm, then why have to pay IPIC twice?

why claim we paid to the correct aabar yet IPIC (as owners of aabar) claim that's not their aabar?

why still have to pay USD600 million by 31st august 2017 (after missing the 2 earlier deadlines?)

why still another USD600million due to IPIC in 31st december?

that's usd1.2billion + the USD3.5 billion aabar money that IPIC claimed they never received?

why lose the arbitration if we did indeed have proof that the aabar in BVI is the aabar owned by IPIC?
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post Aug 14 2017, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(darthboyzzee @ Aug 14 2017, 10:37 AM)
So hilang ke? Kenapa 1mdb nak peduli apa shell buat ngan duit tu? Ayam konpius.  confused.gif
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yes hilang la?

kalau tak peduli kenapa sampai kalah arbitration?

arbitration tu timbangtara pasal 1mdb kata dah bayar hutang kpd syarikat betul, tapi pemilik syarikat tu kata tu bukan syarikat dia.

kalah jugak, kena bayar lagi USD3.5billion nanti.

kenapa kena bayar lagi USD600 million (itupun lambat bayar).

hujung tahun ni lagi USD600 million kena bayar jugak.

takpe, kau kan kopi pes, memang la selalu konpius.

tu yang salah bayar kat akaun orang lain...

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post Aug 14 2017, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(keown83 @ Aug 14 2017, 10:43 AM)
sape cakap takde? duit apa yang hilang? sapa yang kata duit hilang tu pegi cayman island? 1mdb ka yang cakap?
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USD3.5 billion paid to aabar investments pjs (BVI) or british virgin islands.

IPIC as owners of aabar investments claim the aabar BVI is not theirs.

went to london arbitration to contest this claim. 1mdb lost.

have to pay back the USD1.2 billion that IPIC paid on behalf of 1mdb before arbitration started.

had to beg for extension bcos cannot pay the 1st payment of USD600million....

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post Aug 14 2017, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(silent_stalker @ Aug 14 2017, 10:44 AM)
Yeap. 1mdb yang cakap ada kat cayman island.

Cuba je la google 1mdb cayman island. Banyak result. Sila la baca
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that one is the brazen sky fund, rite?

not in dollars, not in ringgit, but in units.

yes?

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post Aug 14 2017, 11:56 AM

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Utusan dah mula spin dah..

https://www.facebook.com/kcdmalaysia/photos...?type=3&theater

inb4 Gambar Pemuda dibawah tu = Orang UMNO ....
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post Aug 14 2017, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(keown83 @ Aug 14 2017, 11:28 AM)
result banyak datang dari single source, WSJ..even yang report tu pelbagai media, depa banyak ambil dari source yang sama, WSJ..WSJ ni taraf berita dia sama ja macam Sarawak Report, tak credible..sekarang Claire Recastle Brown pun gagal nak kemukakan bukti di mahkamah London berkenaan semua tuduhan2 dia berkaitan1MDB, Najib & duit RM90juta bagi kat PAS..so ini menunjukkan apa?

1MDB punya balance sheet ada RM51b aset

so duit apa yang hilang? berapa banyak hilang? RM42b macam yang Tun M habaq ka? cuba explain sat berapa sebenarnya yang hilang
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https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4379368/all

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QUOTE(darthboyzzee @ Aug 5 2017, 02:23 AM)
Aku komen artikel kau esok. Sekarang malas nak tido. cool2.gif

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Because 1MDB simply does not have any more substantial tangible assets or cash in its books, the Malaysians taxpayer will have to pay for most of 1MDB’s still-outstanding debts including:
RM5 billion 30-year bond guaranteed by the federal government issued in 2009;(Due only in the year 2039)
US$3.5 billion 10-year bonds issued in 2012, now guaranteed by MOF Inc;(due in the year 2022)
US$3 billion 10-year bond issued in 2013, guaranteed with a ā€˜Letter of Support’ issued by Finance Minister Najib Abdul Razak; (due in the year 2023)
US$1.23 billion borrowed from IPIC in 2015, guaranteed by MOF Inc; (it is actually an advance on the settlement - not a loan but it is due to repay by end of 2017)
RM800 million loan from Socso in 2010, guaranteed by the federal government; and
RM2.4 billion sukuk issued in 2013, which have already been assumed by MOF. (due in 2022)
The above sums up to RM8.2 billion and US$7.73 billion, (exchange rate USD1-RM4.33) or a combined total of RM41.7 billion.


*notice that other than the US$1.23 billion due within this year, the rest are all long-term debts.

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so dah bangun tidor belum?

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1. wow, even after selling the power assets, still hutang +/- rm41.7 billion?

all in the form of bonds?

so each year kena bayar dividen/interest on the bond?

let's say bond flat rate is 5%, meaning each year 1mdb/MoF kena bayar RM2.085 billion...

ada duit ke? USD600 juta pun siap mintak tangguh?

2. gambar paling lawak yang aku tak spoilerkan tu...

a. rm8billion tu harga klu dah SIAP! sekarang ni cuma bangunan MRT je siap, nasib baik duit nak buat MRT ada dan dah asingkan siap2

(itupun pakai sukuk/Islamic bond jugak...)

haritu tabung haji berdegar kata pembelian Tanah TRX tu untung, klu nak jual balik pun berebut orang nak beli.

apa jadi sekarang? Tanah TRX yang belum terjual pun macam takde yang minat je? whistling.gif

b. bandar Malaysia bernilai rm26 billion? itu sama cerita macam orang letak harga ayam serama dia rm26k.

padahal masa beli rm500 pun tak sampai.

dan nilai rm26 billion tu KALAU DAH SIAP!

yang bodohnya dah ada developer (IWH-CREC) yang at least akan develop sampai dapat Rm10 billion PERGI TERMINATE!


kenapa? pasal kononnya klu IWH-CREC buat hanya jadi Rm10 billion, tp klu ada developer lain buat boleh dapat nilai RM26 billion...

orang tamak selalu rugi, jangankan Rm26 billion, rm10 billion pun takde dah.

pasal terminate kontrak.

mana dalian wanda yang nak labur sampai nilai bandar Malaysia jadi rm26 billion tu?

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kau faham ke apa aku tulis ni?

c. lulz, inilah yang dikatakan duit dlm brazen sky dll tu (monetization of USD2.5billion).

ada lagi ke duit brazen sky? whistling.gif

bank yang kononnya simpan duit brazen sky tu pun dah kena tutup...

faham ke apa aku tulis ni?

d. most LOLOLOLOLOL of all.

nak dapatkan balik USD3.5billion drpd IPIC?

dah IPIC sendiri claim 1mdb never paid them the USD3.5billion due, now you expect them to pay you back for money you never gave them in the 1st place?

apa guna arbitration? kenapa 1mdb masih kena bayar IPIC lagi tapi 1mdb nak balik duit yang diorang TAK PERNAH BAYAR?

kau faham ke apa yang kau kopi pes ni?

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post Aug 14 2017, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(keown83 @ Aug 14 2017, 11:28 AM)
result banyak datang dari single source, WSJ..even yang report tu pelbagai media, depa banyak ambil dari source yang sama, WSJ..WSJ ni taraf berita dia sama ja macam Sarawak Report, tak credible..sekarang Claire Recastle Brown pun gagal nak kemukakan bukti di mahkamah London berkenaan semua tuduhan2 dia berkaitan1MDB, Najib & duit RM90juta bagi kat PAS..so ini menunjukkan apa?

1MDB punya balance sheet ada RM51b aset

so duit apa yang hilang? berapa banyak hilang? RM42b macam yang Tun M habaq ka? cuba explain sat berapa sebenarnya yang hilang
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Rasa dah diexplain atas nun. Aku malas nk type panjang lebar.

Kau bising claire gagal kemukakan bukti. Yang najib tu dapat 2.6b dari pak arab mana ntah kau tak bising mintak bukti.
Faidzal
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lulz ada orang sudah kena mute, baru nak reply tadi...
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QUOTE(Faidzal @ Aug 14 2017, 12:10 PM)
lulz ada orang sudah kena mute, baru nak reply tadi...
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siapa kena mute?
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post Aug 14 2017, 12:13 PM

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btw brazen sky funds in units are now inside the closed BSI bank:

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singap...d-milli-7723668
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post Aug 14 2017, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(azhan82 @ Aug 14 2017, 12:13 PM)
siapa kena mute?
ayam did nothing  brows.gif  brows.gif  innocent.gif  innocent.gif
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ohigho kot?

it's either jolokia or khalpowers/marton

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