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post Jul 17 2017, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(gengkey01 @ Jul 17 2017, 02:09 PM)
Eh 2014 rm50k...must be scam
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Infact muda itself is a scam! 2016 c klass only less than 150k! Who belip wor?
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post Jul 17 2017, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Weezy @ Jul 17 2017, 03:11 PM)
https://m.carlist.my/used-cars/2002-audi-tt...-repair/3905759

Fits your budget

Some more it's fairly reliable
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don't ...
that car is 180 5sp version and low spec tongue.gif
not worth it for that prices, especially the car from ML advance Kajang.
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post Jul 17 2017, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jul 17 2017, 03:34 PM)
built not bought... these fellas grease the right palms to get them road legal.....
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sample pic for illustration purposes je...

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i think they still a few first gen satria with 63t, but the problem is the car with power but no joy on driving it (unless u look for power only).
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post Jul 17 2017, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(SonnyCooL @ Jul 17 2017, 11:26 PM)
don't ...
that car is 180 5sp version and low spec tongue.gif
not worth it for that prices, especially the car from ML advance Kajang.
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What bout ML advance ?

Got any story ar
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post Jul 18 2017, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(Mr.Weezy @ Jul 17 2017, 11:54 PM)
What bout ML advance ?

Got any story ar
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all fake information ...

if u find this car in mudah. would be top spec, which is fake (top spec don't use half cluster).
2. this car ain't TFSI engine.
3. 2002 black interior, interior n year make different.
this is what i can tell they lie, base on their ad.
i kena few time by them, they can even lie when we there, they can show me VW FSI engine, they tell me that is TSI engine, on grant it just miss type ... what a joker.

btw if u having chances to view this car, ask for grant, see owner before (name on grant), is that ang mo.


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post Jul 18 2017, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(SonnyCooL @ Jul 18 2017, 12:02 AM)
all fake information ...

if u find this car in mudah. would be top spec, which is fake (top spec don't use half cluster).
2. this car ain't TFSI engine.
3. 2002 black interior, interior n year make different.
this is what i can tell they lie, base on their ad.
i kena few time by them, they can even lie when we there, they can show me VW FSI engine, they tell me that is TSI engine, on grant it just miss type ... what a joker.

btw if u having chances to view this car, ask for grant, see owner before (name on grant), is that ang mo.
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ts, you see, this is someone who knows what he is looking at..... this is why you need to know everything about the car you want to get.

the older satrias well.... problem with them is they are now very old. Many owners lepas tangan cause they have already 'played' with the cars and theres possibly too much work that needs doing. The newer satria neos with these evo engines, well they are not too badlah, chassis is pretty decent + the power to boot (one could even say too much for a 2wd to handle)
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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jul 18 2017, 09:33 AM)
ts, you see, this is someone who knows what he is looking at..... this is why you need to know everything about the car you want to get.

the older satrias well.... problem with them is they are now very old. Many owners lepas tangan cause they have already 'played' with the cars and theres possibly too much work that needs doing. The newer satria neos with these evo engines, well they are not too badlah, chassis is pretty decent + the power to boot (one could even say too much for a 2wd to handle)
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that involve a lot of school fees tongue.gif

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post Jul 18 2017, 03:52 PM

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subaru impreza wrx sti 2004

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post Jul 18 2017, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE(gengkey01 @ Jul 17 2017, 01:42 AM)
Hi there car's sifu,

I plan to buy 2nd hand weekend car just to drive around town or layan corner around selangor, and maybe long drive to melaka/ipoh from kl. weekend car must have good hp and torque maybe close to 200bhp , i search carlist and finalize the candidate. Volkswagen Golf Gti (mk5) , Proton Satria Gti , and civic type r (hatchback) , all under rm50k, and year also the same 2000-2005, which car should i get?
Tldr best  hatchback power 200hp under 50k

200hp kinda exaggerated just fast will do.

Finalize the list and problems:

1) VW golf gti mk5 - engine issue need to lookout, gearbox second

2) proton satria gti / neo - converted engine 4g93 / 4g63t - turbo car need special workshop / good mechanic

3)toyota altezza 3sge beams - workshop with good mechanic
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Out of your list above, the Altezza 6 speed manual should be the best choice. If later you got more budget, can turbocharge it or swap 1JZ turbo in it!

Other choice to consider maybe:
- Subaru Impreza WRX V8, can only get non STI for that budget but still pretty fast too.
- Accord Euro R CL1, pretty rare car.
- Mitsubishi Galant VR4, very old and rare car but still bloody fast.
- Suzuki Swift Sport ZC32S (from 2012 onwards). I know this is far below 200hp (only 136hp) but it's also a very light car at just slightly over 1 ton weight plus got 6 speed manual, so it's quite a zippy car. If you want it faster then can also install some turbo/supercharger kit which are available for this car. I mention this car coz you also put Satria GTI there.
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post Jul 18 2017, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(khanninah @ Jul 18 2017, 03:44 PM)
huh ? since when toyota 2.5 NA from 2007 can produce 230 bhp ? it never made 230 hp not even when brand new.
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Correct, Mark X 2.5 std power is around 200-212HP only, so not that fast considering it needs to haul 1.5-1.6 ton of weight.
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post Jul 18 2017, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Jul 18 2017, 08:04 PM)
Out of your list above, the Altezza 6 speed manual should be the best choice. If later you got more budget, can turbocharge it or swap 1JZ turbo in it!

Other choice to consider maybe:
- Subaru Impreza WRX V8, can only get non STI for that budget but still pretty fast too.
- Accord Euro R CL1, pretty rare car.
- Mitsubishi Galant VR4, very old and rare car but still bloody fast.
- Suzuki Swift Sport ZC32S (from 2012 onwards). I know this is far below 200hp (only 136hp) but it's also a very light car  at just slightly over 1 ton weight plus got 6 speed manual, so it's quite a zippy car. If you want it faster then can also install some turbo/supercharger kit which are available for this car. I mention this car coz you also put Satria GTI there.
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Wow thanks for the infos, well altezza seem to be the best bet amng all the other candidate. Swift sport got good review by topgear and fifthgear show right. The year is an advantage among all, since just a few year old. Okay will look into it. Thanks man.
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If you plan to go for Satria GTI. I suggest you go for Satria R3.
Own 1 before, the chasis is much better and lighter. It is damn fun to drive and easy to maintain. Regrets to sell it, should have keep it as weekend car.

This one on mudah seem very well maintain and mods from official R3.
http://www.mudah.my/2005+Proton+Satria+GTI...R3-56339677.htm
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post Jul 18 2017, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(rickmoh78 @ Jul 18 2017, 10:47 PM)
If you plan to go for Satria GTI. I suggest you go for Satria R3.
Own 1 before, the chasis is much better and lighter. It is damn fun to drive and easy to maintain. Regrets to sell it, should have keep it as weekend car.

This one on mudah seem very well maintain and mods from official R3.
http://www.mudah.my/2005+Proton+Satria+GTI...R3-56339677.htm
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thnks man, appreciate it.

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jul 18 2017, 09:33 AM)
ts, you see, this is someone who knows what he is looking at..... this is why you need to know everything about the car you want to get.

the older satrias well.... problem with them is they are now very old. Many owners lepas tangan cause they have already 'played' with the cars and theres possibly too much work that needs doing. The newer satria neos with these evo engines, well they are not too badlah, chassis is pretty decent + the power to boot (one could even say too much for a 2wd to handle)
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i saw on speedworks website they offer a turbo kits for neo cps but come with hefty price, what are your opinion on this? i know they are popular workshop should be good right.
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post Jul 18 2017, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(gengkey01 @ Jul 18 2017, 10:58 PM)
i saw on speedworks website they offer a turbo kits for neo cps but come with hefty price, what are your opinion on this? i know they are popular workshop should be good right.
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well they are well known but i dont wana comment on their packages... they are hefty cause they have to a certain extent proven that their kit does produce around what they offer you... reliability is a whole different question. for neos, an alternative which i do feel is actually decent and is kinda special are the supercharged units... one or 2 companies like proreka offer kits for em

the altezza is a very nice car, worthy of contending in this list....

guest is right, if the satrias are listed here, the swift s too deserves to be listed. The only advantage of owning a satria here is the abundance of replacement bits littered wherever you look. (hunting for spare parts can get tiring)
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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jul 18 2017, 11:43 PM)
well they are well known but i dont wana comment on their packages... they are hefty cause they have to a certain extent proven that their kit does produce around what they offer you... reliability is a whole different question. for neos, an alternative which i do feel is actually decent and is kinda special are the supercharged units... one or 2 companies like proreka offer kits for em

the altezza is a very nice car, worthy of contending in this list....

guest is right, if the satrias are listed here, the swift s too deserves to be listed.  The only advantage of owning a satria here is the abundance of replacement bits littered wherever you look. (hunting for spare parts can get tiring)
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but i see one major problem with TS, basically he dunno what he want other than Horse Power and certain prices range, so we can see all sort of recommendation ....... from 4dr sedan to coupe, ff, fr n 4wd, all different behavior n for different usage or different type of fun ...
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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Jul 18 2017, 08:04 PM)
Out of your list above, the Altezza 6 speed manual should be the best choice. If later you got more budget, can turbocharge it or swap 1JZ turbo in it!

Other choice to consider maybe:
- Subaru Impreza WRX V8, can only get non STI for that budget but still pretty fast too.
- Accord Euro R CL1, pretty rare car.
- Mitsubishi Galant VR4, very old and rare car but still bloody fast.
- Suzuki Swift Sport ZC32S (from 2012 onwards). I know this is far below 200hp (only 136hp) but it's also a very light car  at just slightly over 1 ton weight plus got 6 speed manual, so it's quite a zippy car. If you want it faster then can also install some turbo/supercharger kit which are available for this car. I mention this car coz you also put Satria GTI there.
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i like CL7 .....
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post Jul 19 2017, 05:43 AM

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Honda eg or ek with k20 or b18 engine.

Fwd. You won't crash. Can learn alot of driving skill. And have fun on touge road. Maintainence cheap..

If newer ride. Swift sport. But it's only 135hp. Tuning parts can be expensive too..but so is the same for Honda....

Turbo satria all. Don't la. It's hard to drive and..mitsubishi performance engine isn't that reliable also. .. Not to mention, Satria/wira chassis if cruise over 200kmh.wont feel safe.
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QUOTE(SonnyCooL @ Jul 19 2017, 02:48 AM)
but i see one major problem with TS, basically he dunno what he want other than Horse Power and certain prices range, so we can see all sort of recommendation ....... from 4dr sedan to coupe, ff, fr n 4wd, all different behavior n for different usage or different type of fun ...
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yeah, i noticed..


before preceeding any further.... i think you should figureout stuff like what you want to do with it, what you would like to achieve.... do you need to carry things? old people?....... better think it all out.

QUOTE(SonnyCooL @ Jul 19 2017, 02:50 AM)
i like CL7 .....
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cl7's general market value is over 50k, dnt think he will be able to find one.


QUOTE(xemoboyx @ Jul 19 2017, 05:43 AM)
Honda eg or ek with k20 or b18 engine.

Fwd. You won't crash. Can learn alot of driving skill. And have fun on touge road. Maintainence cheap..

If newer ride. Swift sport. But it's only 135hp. Tuning parts can be expensive too..but so is the same for Honda....

Turbo satria all. Don't la. It's hard to drive and..mitsubishi performance engine isn't that reliable also. .. Not to mention, Satria/wira chassis if cruise over 200kmh.wont feel safe.
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if you are gona avoid the mitsu's (especially the terbalik ones) for reliability issues, you might was well forget the b series hondas.... k series, yeah those are like the terbaliks, generally more reliable cause its basically a newer engine. and let me be very frank, an eg/ek at 200km/h doesn't exactly fill you with the sense of safety either.

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