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SUSgengkey01
post Jul 17 2017, 01:42 AM, updated 9y ago

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Hi there car's sifu,

I plan to buy 2nd hand weekend car just to drive around town or layan corner around selangor, and maybe long drive to melaka/ipoh from kl. weekend car must have good hp and torque maybe close to 200bhp , i search carlist and finalize the candidate. Volkswagen Golf Gti (mk5) , Proton Satria Gti , and civic type r (hatchback) , all under rm50k, and year also the same 2000-2005, which car should i get?


Tldr best hatchback power 200hp under 50k

200hp kinda exaggerated just fast will do.

inalize the list and and advantages

1) VW golf gti mk5 -all wheel drive - dual clutch gb - powerful engine (2004-2005)

2) proton satria gti / neo - install turbo kits - good handling and good power to weight ratio. (2000-2005)

3)toyota altezza 3sge beams - stock already powerful - rear wheel drive - look good ( 2002-2004)

4) suzuki swift sport - nimble and agile - not to old - ( 2013-2014)

This post has been edited by gengkey01: Jul 19 2017, 01:09 PM
SUSgengkey01
post Jul 17 2017, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(Boss262 @ Jul 17 2017, 05:33 AM)
Suprima S? with a race chip it can be boosted upto 170hp
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But the price can get under 50k ?
SUSgengkey01
post Jul 17 2017, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(dstl1128 @ Jul 17 2017, 08:35 AM)
Why is Honda in the list?
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Type r - racing spec
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post Jul 17 2017, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jul 17 2017, 10:19 AM)
Volkswagen Golf Gti (mk5)
- sort of meets the criterias, within budget pretty decent everywhere else

satria gti
- this is sort of out of place no? might as well consider a modified neo.... (only an option if you know how to view modified cars)

civic type-r
- let me be frank, you will find it VERY difficult to find an ep3-r for this money.

alternatives
celica
- around the same age, offers decent performance (to be clear, the top end 2zz manuals are decent, rest are silly in my opinion )
- keep in mind, many adds listed on mudah are alot higher than what they tend to go for... (just saying)
- make sure to test life when you go for a test drive. and dont miss shift and the car is actually very reliable.

rx8
- also a nice car
- rotaries  interesting but can be expensive
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Ya golf gti mk5 is on my top list , i think spare part is kinda rare right, for satri gti i think 1.8 engine is sufficient right, im thinking of upgrading its suspension and tyre + paint since the price is quite low to other and budget is viable for upgrade. Celicas i dont know about it much, i know its 1.8 engine (around 180bhp) but trannny mostly auto kinda rare to find manual. Rx-8 is out of my list, fuel makan monster ( from what u heard,)and just dont like the look.

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post Jul 17 2017, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(19 Degree South @ Jul 17 2017, 11:33 AM)
Satria GTI got 200 hp meh?
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No this 1 add to list cause can upgrade other part later, power i think sufficient enough.
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post Jul 17 2017, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jul 17 2017, 10:55 AM)
the golf is alot more powerful and is in the upper limits of your budget range while nowadays i have actually seen a few satria gti's (real gti's mind you, with the uprated chassis) change hands for significantly less than 20k.... which imo, is pretty decent and as you have said, leaves you alot for maintanance and upgrades. Parts are not really that difficult to find if you ask me...

if i were you, would take a look at celicas as well.... maybe the mrs even (tho body parts/trim are more difficult) cause its a lightweight mid engined rwd car.

**just so you know (im quite sure you already know) cars this old, are cash only if you dont take into account personal loans.
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Golf gti mk5 have problem with its gearbox ? If there is problem should i change mind to other car? Conti car gb must be expensive and hard to find.celica okay too, maybe can add to list. Mrs too old and nit too my liking.


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post Jul 17 2017, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(donfutsal @ Jul 17 2017, 11:57 AM)
golf got gear issue

dont buy
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I should expect this..but but really like hot hatches car. Dont want spend time in workshop ..haihhhh
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post Jul 17 2017, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jul 17 2017, 12:06 PM)
last time got few workshop offer for bolt on turbo for Campro CPS. somemore can get at those 180-190hp with driveability in town.

but must be in manual form, as auto got some problem in long run.
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Satria neo campro cps only ke? Okay will research on this, hope doesnt burst over my budget for turbo add on.
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post Jul 17 2017, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(donfutsal @ Jul 17 2017, 12:09 PM)
r34 good

give a try
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R34 nissan?
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post Jul 17 2017, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(dstl1128 @ Jul 17 2017, 12:22 PM)
It has to be at least 1.8L. wink.gif
Anyway Satria GTi (and Putra) thief magnet. 
You could also go Altezza BEAMS .
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Oh yeah i forgot about altezza..quite rare nowadays.

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post Jul 17 2017, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(donfutsal @ Jul 17 2017, 12:49 PM)
r34 skyline nissan
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My budget 50k +- 10k ( for repair/upgrade) ..no way i can maintain 6 cylinder engine

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post Jul 17 2017, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jul 17 2017, 01:03 PM)
1)golf, has a wetclutch, so its more reliable then the typical ds's you are used to seeing.... do note however there are a few weak with the engine itself...... so prepare some cash before getting one, just in case.

2)mrs is newer than some cars in your list, not sure what you are on about..... (note that im suggesting the mrs not mr2!!, these are diferent models)

3)if you are to go with a turbo-ed cps... i would suggest you forget about it and just get a pre-converted 4g63t/4g93t neo instead..... (do research and talk to ppl that have done it first b4 thinking about these modified cars.... )
compared to a bolt on cps... these are the pros: its actually built to deal with the turbo's output, the cps wasnt designed to take boost, wear and limits are diferent. tuning and parts can be less complicated cause at the end of the day, its a 4g. cons: a converted car needs to be checked throughly,  why is the owner selling it? is it failing? is it built cheaply? did they do it right? what parts did they use? fc will be garbage.... 4g63t's are known to be very very powerful engines but they drink fuel like its free if you stay on boost often.

4)forget the r34.... any r34 you can find for 50-60k isn worth even considering

5)someone suggested the altezza? thats actually a good idea... manual with the 3sge (not the autos or lexus models with the 6 potter)
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Nice info , will take your advice and do more research about satria gti/ neo , about vw engine too, s since its weekend so im not worry about fuel just dont want car spend inside workshop.

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post Jul 17 2017, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(BLjack @ Jul 17 2017, 02:06 PM)
http://m.mudah.my/view?ca=9_3_s&cg=1015&mk...&ad_id=55006836

Gti 200hp don't pm me I'm not seller 😌
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Eh 2014 rm50k...must be scam
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post Jul 17 2017, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(leftist @ Jul 17 2017, 02:32 PM)
type R EP3  brows.gif
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This one uk spec type r ke? Cun juga hothatch ni, you got exp with this car?
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post Jul 17 2017, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(croydon @ Jul 17 2017, 02:19 PM)
evo 7 ?
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If i can get a satria with 4g63t engine i dont want to fork out more money for an evolution.

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post Jul 17 2017, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(Juan86 @ Jul 17 2017, 02:45 PM)
Toyota Mark X 2007 V6 2.5

230 hp only at 40k +
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Actually i prefer hothatch and nimble car around corner, this is good car but i thnk doeent appeal to me.
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post Jul 17 2017, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jul 17 2017, 02:56 PM)
a proper evo comes with a properly designed chassis for the engine AND 4wd.. the fwd setup on the neo will never achieve what the 4wd platform is capable of.

just keep in mind, evo7's more than 50k... lol even (real) evo 5's and 6's  cost around that or more.
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I dont know about satria with 4g63t engine, exist ke
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post Jul 18 2017, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Jul 18 2017, 08:04 PM)
Out of your list above, the Altezza 6 speed manual should be the best choice. If later you got more budget, can turbocharge it or swap 1JZ turbo in it!

Other choice to consider maybe:
- Subaru Impreza WRX V8, can only get non STI for that budget but still pretty fast too.
- Accord Euro R CL1, pretty rare car.
- Mitsubishi Galant VR4, very old and rare car but still bloody fast.
- Suzuki Swift Sport ZC32S (from 2012 onwards). I know this is far below 200hp (only 136hp) but it's also a very light car  at just slightly over 1 ton weight plus got 6 speed manual, so it's quite a zippy car. If you want it faster then can also install some turbo/supercharger kit which are available for this car. I mention this car coz you also put Satria GTI there.
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Wow thanks for the infos, well altezza seem to be the best bet amng all the other candidate. Swift sport got good review by topgear and fifthgear show right. The year is an advantage among all, since just a few year old. Okay will look into it. Thanks man.
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post Jul 18 2017, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(rickmoh78 @ Jul 18 2017, 10:47 PM)
If you plan to go for Satria GTI. I suggest you go for Satria R3.
Own 1 before, the chasis is much better and lighter. It is damn fun to drive and easy to maintain. Regrets to sell it, should have keep it as weekend car.

This one on mudah seem very well maintain and mods from official R3.
http://www.mudah.my/2005+Proton+Satria+GTI...R3-56339677.htm
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thnks man, appreciate it.

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post Jul 18 2017, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jul 18 2017, 09:33 AM)
ts, you see, this is someone who knows what he is looking at..... this is why you need to know everything about the car you want to get.

the older satrias well.... problem with them is they are now very old. Many owners lepas tangan cause they have already 'played' with the cars and theres possibly too much work that needs doing. The newer satria neos with these evo engines, well they are not too badlah, chassis is pretty decent + the power to boot (one could even say too much for a 2wd to handle)
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i saw on speedworks website they offer a turbo kits for neo cps but come with hefty price, what are your opinion on this? i know they are popular workshop should be good right.

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