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post Sep 20 2017, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(belfong @ Sep 20 2017, 08:16 AM)
One negative against CRV - the turning radius is poor. Are all SUVs like that?
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I'd say similar.. For instance, the CRV has a turning circle of 37.4 ft, while the CX-5 is at 36ft. Not a deal breaker, but something extra to test for.

QUOTE(belfong @ Sep 20 2017, 08:18 AM)
How do you verify that there's no salesman or property agents? smile.gif
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I wondered the same. laugh.gif
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post Sep 20 2017, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(tankiasu @ Sep 20 2017, 01:23 PM)
The other car club that I'm in, they require every member to send a photo of themselves standing next to their car, and with the driver door opened
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Like salesmen don't have access to cars and cameras? tongue.gif Say, that's the requirements, how about folks like me who are more privacy conscious and wouldn't want to show face or plate number (blurred). Rejected join request huh.

QUOTE(wshoh @ Sep 20 2017, 01:58 PM)
Same issue as @kianwee - wish you had posted about the flaw earlier!

Went to the One Utama roadshow last Friday evening (15/9/2017) and purchased the full set (Trapo Classic and Trapo Back) for the Honda CR-V 5th Gen since they had a 10% extra discount on top of the combo offer (30% off for Trapo Back only when purchased as a set). Was really only after Trapo Back but since it was roughly another RM150 to get the full set so I thought that I would give it a try.

Well, delivery was quick and I got the mat by courier yesterday (19/7/2017), ahead of the estimated delivery date this Friday (22/9/2017). Alas, the Trapo Classic rear seat mat doesn't fit properly - and you would have expected a PRECISE fit being a product CUSTOM-TAILORED for the Honda CR-V 5th Gen.

For the record, tried placing it (a) on its own as well as (b) on top of the Honda OEM mat. IMHO, it seems to fit better on top of the Honda OEM mat, albeit still a bad fit.

I suppose their sales representatives still lack full product knowledge. At the roadshow, I checked their FB page beforehand and there was this guy who complained that he specifically asked for the eyelet for the CR-V Gen 5 driver's seat mat (to lock the mat in place) and was told that it would be done. Of course there were no eyelets when delivered. So I took the opportunity to ask the roadshow staff whether there was an eyelet and the staff were clueless and kept saying that there is Velcro. One of the staff even said that there are eyelets (probably thinking that eyelets = velcro) before another staff corrected her and stated that there will be none.

The other thing was that the display car was a HR-V and I enquired as to the Trapo Back coverage for the CR-V Gen 5 - as to whether it covers the 2 'holes/pockets' at the cargo area. Was told that it would, but guess what, the Trapo Back I received does not.
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Hmm... Could it be that some vehicles just have slightly different dimensions than normal. Hence not the perfect fit? How to buy Trapo like this..Do they have a 1-1 replacement or money-back guarantee if it doesn't fit?
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post Sep 21 2017, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(houseman @ Sep 20 2017, 04:12 PM)
hows the CRV's engine noise and NVH compared to CX-5?
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Official launch is just a month away. Sure you don't want to wait and grab that instead.
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post Sep 21 2017, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(johnnycp @ Sep 21 2017, 08:30 AM)
I bought the rubber boot tray from Raymond Loi.

Then I cut the both the small ear to fit in the pocket hole

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This gives a cleaner look.

QUOTE(kianwee @ Sep 21 2017, 02:01 PM)
Ms Kiew from Trapo came to my office personally to exchange the rear seat mat for me. Kudos to them, they did some modification to it and now it fits snuggly. She said future production for CR-V will be based on this modified version.
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Nice!
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post Oct 1 2017, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(drcro @ Oct 1 2017, 06:42 PM)
Anyone owned 1.5 tc 4wd?plan to buy. Any advice? Or better to choose 1.5 2wd? How about fuel consumption compare both?
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IMO, fuel consumption is negligible between both and mainly depends on driving style and routes. Even with the 2wd, some get good fc and others don't. As for needing the 4wd, you a city and highway person or go off-roading a couple times? I believe Honda's 4WD is more a 2WD that very occasionally kicks in the "4WD" function when needed.
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post Oct 12 2017, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(mystvearn @ Oct 11 2017, 09:05 PM)
Just wondering from current owners. Is the creaking noise and nvh an isolated issue or common?

Second is if it is possible to change the background wallpaper on the hu to own custom one?
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Not a owner and so can't speak for NVH fixes besides telling that the CVT drones are quite loud and constant in the cabin during a test drive.. I'm sure there are aftermarket noise insulation fixes you can try.. At extra cost of course.

Yes, it's possible to change the background to a custom image.. You need to change the skin first. Load up a USB, then tap and hold the screen to select new background.. It's Android.. See this..




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post Oct 12 2017, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(mystvearn @ Oct 12 2017, 06:58 AM)
I see. The skin is not your own wallpaper but a skin in the hu?

Just wanted to know how quiet is the cabin
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Think of the skin as a more customizable theme/mode than the default one.. After changing the skin, then you can choose to use your own wallpaper.

QUOTE(yattnana @ Oct 12 2017, 07:40 AM)
The new base specs cx-5 with 17" wheels is quieter
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I agree, significantly quieter... CRV's got that interior packaging though.. Spacious.
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post Oct 12 2017, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(Neo_Y @ Oct 12 2017, 10:40 AM)
My car clocked 6k currently and do not face any creaking noise, NVH is much improved as compare to old day honda, still fall behind the Mazda standard though.

You're freely to customize your own background wallpaper without changing the skin. There are plenty of templates available through the internet, just load your preferences into USB drive and plug it in, the HU should be able to read it.
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Ahh.. Good to know.
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post Oct 12 2017, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(Neo_Y @ Oct 12 2017, 11:21 AM)
Bro, pull the trigger yet?

CRV or CX5, tough choice.  laugh.gif
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See my humble mini-review below.. I'm usually very clear-headed about decisions and this isn't easy as both have their strengths and weakness.. Basically, where one is strong, the other is weak and vice versa.. 2018 Volvo Xc60?? hmm.gif Have to eat maggi mee and no holiday trips. sweat.gif

QUOTE(rotaziz @ Oct 12 2017, 12:01 PM)
Any experts or has knowledge/experience to list down the pros and cons of both crv and cx5?
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TLDR: Need vehicle now? The natural choice for most will be the CRV. As for us, we decided to wait a year for the CX-5 Facelift after MM realizes their foolishness or work hard to get the 2018 Volvo XC60 in 2019.. smile.gif

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post Oct 12 2017, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(Neo_Y @ Oct 12 2017, 03:05 PM)
2018 Volvo XC60 will sat you back at RM320K plus and that is the most cheapest price with CKD and EEV incentive. Introductory CBU will price even more than that.
Then I might suggest you to take another look at the MB GLC250 (GLC200 if you need a car now, sub 300k yo) or 2018 BMW X3 ?  biggrin.gif

Visited Mazda showroom to check out the CX5 during weekend and talked to some current 1st gen CX5 owners, they are mostly disappointed upon 2nd gen CX5, too familiar they said, no surprise.

So, 1st gen Mazda CX5 owners will go to 5th gen CRV while 3rd/4th gen CRV ex-owners will properly choose the new Mazda CX5 when come to buying desicion. Strange situation eh.

I owned the Mazda 6 (CBU, GJ, year 2013) for 2 years, bought new and I'm gonna tell you the quality between CBU and CKD are quite different, in term of fit and finish, locally assembled can't matches the one build in Japan. On your next visit, try to feel and touch the interior of CX3 and compare to CX5.

If you are not in a hurry, I do suggest wait until FL, at least wait until Skyactiv II, should be introduce end of this year or 2018.
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That's why I acknowledge the Volvo will be budget busting.. As far-fetched as it might sounds, I'm hoping by 2019, with discounts and bla bla, can score a low mileage or new one for as close to 200K as possible. Wishful thinking.

I share the same sentiment with the folks you spoke with at Mazda..It's nice and all but no real kick or significant upgrade over the previous gen. Even the official launch, like no fanfare..Compared to the CRV (updated design, handling, specs, space and engine). With the CX-5, have to literally pull teeth just to get the full circle lcd screen in the dash. Something like that could have been standard across all variants.

Yeah, CBU fit & finish is better as expected.. No matter how much MM hypes improved CKD fit & finish or materials, their leather alone is not as hard-wearing as CBUs. They need to put the finished product where their mouth is. Will wait it out a bit.. But not too long as tech should always get better, at a point, gotta pull the trigger and forget all else.
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post Oct 14 2017, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(Neo_Y @ Oct 14 2017, 01:25 PM)
In a consumer point of view, even the multi billion Boeing 787 do rattling, what do you expect in a sub 200k vehicle?  biggrin.gif
Joke aside, buying a car is all about luck, some rattle and some may not. And it is fixable, so, isolated problem like this shouldn't bug you on buying decision.

As for swirl marks, the moment you first wash your car, no matter how carefully you are, or using the finest micro fibre cloth or so, there are no way to prevent occurrence of swirl marks. Unless you coat (still there will be swirl marks) or fully protect your car with paint protection films.

Cheer.
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Bro, that's just an excuse people make in support of poor materials, fit and finish. My current vehicle, a Honda of considerable years and daily driver, has never experienced any such rattling. When things like suspension are good, The only noise I hear besides the radio and engine is silence. So how come despite all the technological advancement Honda Malaysia manages to go from good to poor? You hear about CBU, what's CBU? Take the same Japanese CBU, Let's not go German yet.. Don't they use materials? Humans? Robotic arms? Why is or why should CKD seen as truly inferior? You say it's luck, i say it's bad manufacturing and evidently QC.. Luck has nothing to do with it, a product is either done well or not. Think about this, you buy ceiling fans, air-cons, fridges and freezers, etc. Good ones don't rattle even one bit cuz fit and finish is a thing. My Alpha ceiling fans of about 4 years, all used for multiple hours daily and all still start and stop silently.. No creaks, swivel, shakes, etc..

Paint protection films FTW! smile.gif
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post Oct 14 2017, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(belfong @ Oct 14 2017, 05:15 PM)
I think you all have you answer of which car not to buy  smile.gif
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Indeed.

QUOTE(Neo_Y @ Oct 14 2017, 05:45 PM)
My younger bro VW CC 14' dashboard and door panel rattle severely, tyre noise is even worst mainly due to the low profile tyre and the car is fully imported from Germany. Even my S400h do rattle, intermediately. So I'm literally do not care about interior rattling noise anymore, just pump up the volume, enjoy the music and how's the car drive. Well, that's just me.  sweat.gif

From my experience, rattling noise will go away in time, just put some years to your car and the sound will eventually faded away.

Some owners here complaint about rattling interior doesn't mean every car also will have the same rattling problem (mine didn't have any rattling noise), one can't paint everyone with the same brush and this exactly my point.
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We are forking out $40K+ where some others get to pay as much as $10K less, but get better quality and have laws against lemon units... You made your point and I get it.. Mine was that, just because people like you don't mind rattling, doesn't mean that a manufacturer of Honda's size and level should get away with it too.. That's not progress.. It's backwards thinking and it gets worse if people keep accepting it as norm... It's a vehicle most intend to sit in with their family and get on highway speeds. If things we can easily see and touch can be allowed to be so.. My main question then becomes, How durable or well-connected are those other critical parts that we can't see or touch but depend on to save if if need be.. e.g. crumple zones and airbags. That is my point.

Rattling noise with no work done will not simply go away in most cases.. probably get worse.. What most likely happened is that one got used to the rattling noise and your brain tunes it out. Try listen critically and it'll be there.
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post Oct 23 2017, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(pgsiemkia @ Oct 23 2017, 05:02 PM)
My CBU CRZ has no rattles and squeak or gaps by the door when closed. Saw some gaps on a new CRV and Accord when I was in Glenmarie, salesgirl said, biasalah, made in Malaysia but sheep still lining up to buy Honda..you say leh?

VW closes with a solid thump, I tested the new Tiguan and even the Polo sedan. Damn good NVH when on the road and the 1.4 & 1.2 turbos give sufficient power, pity the servicing is still a nightmare and reputation still in tatters, so buying one is really a gamble, rather throw 100k at the roulette, still can get back some money.

CX-5 looks great but I like the CX-3 more, pity the size inside and if they used the 1.5 turbo, will buy at an instant. 2.0 engine is not that great.
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Yeah, how come here we simply roll over and accept faults as "normal" or hey, it's just a Honda, not a luxury brand. At least, can be on the same levels as CBUs. True, it would be wrong to compare Honda with true luxury brands. Heck even Mazdas with better stuff still can't be compared on the same level as luxury brands. Size-wise, the CX-3 is way too small, even the CX-5 is just acceptable. The CRV's size is just nice and Honda knows this, it's buyers too. Wouldn't necessarily call sheep, but more like no choice if one wants such size and utilities. If the CX-5 was as spacious as the CRV and fully specced as overseas, I'd go for either the 2.5 or 2.2d without thinking. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(godrobert @ Nov 2 2017, 10:59 AM)
not worth it.
I took this offer. But a bit regret.
only the door visor makes me feel ok.
the side step only got light at front door, rear door no light?! (even after market one got all lights.)
the rear bumper protector is even worse, very small piece not even can provide any protection.
get after market one is much more cheaper.
definitely not worth rm15xx.
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Sir, on behalf of all.. We thank you for your sacrifice. console.gif

QUOTE(Henry T @ Nov 2 2017, 11:57 AM)
I called my regular Honda dealer. It seems HM is all out to promote the 1.5 Turbo. Test drive cars are only this model. Wtf!

There are prospective customers who don't want the turbo. Are they telling me to go buy the Mazda CX5 GL instead?  biggrin.gif
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Turbo engine still new for CRV and guinea pigs wanted = return more frequently to them = more opportunities to charge = higher chances for us to lose warranty = we are customers and the product aka lab mice... Just saying whistling.gif

QUOTE(nckeong11 @ Nov 2 2017, 01:06 PM)
I booked the 2.0L, now your comment making me feel a bit concerned. Tested with latest Mitsubishi Outlander CKD 2.0, feels that almost the same, that’s why I opt for CRV 2.0L
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Hey, if your mind's made up & die must stick to budget, then your mind's made up.. Don't think too much about it as there's always another vehicle that's better than this. However, if you can afford it, go up.. Buyer's remorse is worse when you have to live with a depreciating asset. smile.gif
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QUOTE(belfong @ Nov 4 2017, 08:42 PM)
I agree wholeheartedly, although there are people who claimed the engine noise can still be heard.
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It's a fact not simply claims.. Even if you don't believe it.. Go watch Malaysian Bobby Ang's review video and listen.. Can be clearly heard. I experienced it too. Instead you should say the noise does not bother you.
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QUOTE(wilsonjack228 @ Nov 4 2017, 09:25 PM)
Well the engine noise is minimal unless u fussy about it.
Yes the engine sound do intrude the cabin when u step on it but nothing much we could do,  it's a cvt, it's like training us to step on the pedal lesser.. Haha
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I rented a Vios for a couple days and it’s engine noise within the cabin is much quieter than the CRV. That was minimal. Sat in other cars that are even quieter. I do agree with your last statement. It’s an unexciting CVT that’s further hampered by the car’s weight & dimensions. Perhaps a diesel or better hybrid is required.

QUOTE(johnnycp @ Nov 5 2017, 10:42 AM)
What the heck u guys talking about lol. Tell me which car has zero engine noise intrude the cabin lol
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Ye completely missed the point.
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QUOTE(Neo_Y @ Nov 6 2017, 04:07 PM)
Indeed there are engine or transmission noise when accelerate or you stomp the gas pedal.
But when you didn't press the throttle or the rpm stay below 2.5k, the noise is almost none.
Before that, should you learn more about the characteristic of the CVT, it will stay at lowest rpm as possible for normal cruising, hence, minimal noise.
CVT plus Turbo, simply mean maximum torque at early rpm, 3k rpm already can handle most of the road easily.
That being said, one who drove slowly and carefully can really enjoy dead silent cabin, why not?

Test drive? kick down lah.
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I’m well aware of the characteristics of a CVT with and without turbo. Test drove the top spec CRV and 2.0 CX-5 back to back in the same city with similar roads and the same highway. Not to sound like a broken record, while the CX-5’s 2.0 engine was somewhat underpowered, the CRV was much noticeably noiser and severely underpowered. Wouldn’t even bother comparing it with the 2.5 or 2.2d. I put up a mini-report on my findings earlier. In summary, none of these vehicles are perfect, but the CRV desperately needs better soundproofing and engine power. As for dead silent cabin? That’s near impossible with either. I use “near” cuz the istop does provide a silent cabin... That’s hybrid, PHEV & EV territory only. A CVT wouldn’t dare.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(wshoh @ Nov 6 2017, 08:31 PM)
Will agree that the noise is there on hard acceleration. However, for the CR-V main target market (family SUV), the noise is seldom heard as the typical family-minded driver will not accelerate hard often.

So unless you accelerate hard (c/f light foot/gradual acceleration) all the time or regularly drive above 120 kph, it ought be a niggling issue affecting only a small portion of drivers -> car enthusiasts.

As for Bobby Ang's reviews, after many views of his various youtube videos, kind of grown tired and unsubscribed because...ahem...his comments are too subjective, IMHO. He obviously gravitates towards the CX-5 for its driving experience. But I reckon a vast majority of CR-V owners buy it for the size/roominess (TWO (2) full size child car seats fit easily and you can still pull down the rear passenger arm rest) and engine performance (which I think is respectable enough for its category) is just a bonus.
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Valid points.. As for Bobby, I believe he’s let the little fame get to his head. True, I also noticed that the bias towards the CX-5 and called it out in the thread.
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QUOTE(Neo_Y @ Nov 6 2017, 10:48 PM)
I think your expectation upon performance is rather high, maybe you should consider 2.0T, perhaps.
I owned a Mazda Skyactiv G 2.0L for 3 years and I think the power is sufficient enough. Mazda got the upper hand as it is lighter due to its so called skyactiv body.
My daily driver is a 3.5L V6 hybrid and I don't feel CRV is "severely underpowered".
Although the gearbox cumbered the initial pick up a little, just do not let go the throttle until turbo kicked in, the car does sprint rapidly.
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Current daily driver is a Civic FD with a well-tuned 1.8 engine that from standstill, feels like a racehorse sprinting out of the gate. Can easily drop a gear, pull out from behind a suddenly slow moving vehicle and overtake rapidly. Press down longer and it clocks 150km/h without vibrations with rpm around 2.5k. This is an 8 year old car and granted it’s a sedan and CSUVs drive differently. I guess I did go in with certain expectation levels as comparing it with the CX-5 & Tiguan, both proving wonderful to zip around town and on highways. Yeah I agree, a 2.0T is more ideal for the CRV.

It’s alright, I agree with most.. The CRV plays to its strength as the space & interior packaging king. Then Honda Sensing with AA & CarPlay got tossed in. So those with such priorities would naturally go for it. There be rumors of the roomier Mazda CX-8 CBU in Malaysia next year.. Interesting times ahead. brows.gif
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QUOTE(Neo_Y @ Nov 7 2017, 10:28 AM)
I do admit the CRV throttle response is unbelievably slow.
It is not severely underpowered, it is just super sluggish to react upon driver input.

7 seater Mazda CX-8 sound so good to be true, if this sell like a hot cake, I could foresight VW and Honda will follow and introduce their 5+2 version of Tiguan and CRV. Good for consumers.
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Okay.

Yeah, I also think the Mazda story is too good to be true. I'll believe it when Mazda Malaysia officially confirms it. Given the CX-5 is their best seller. However, If it does, I do agree that Honda's response would be to offer the 5+2 config, ideally with a diesel/hybrid option.

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