QUOTE(l2k @ Aug 5 2019, 04:32 PM)
I knew it was an AWD in the video, but I would recommend that if anyone that is considering CX5 2.2D, he/she should go for AWD instead of the FWD. I think with 400+ish Nm of torque in command from low bottom, I will argue that if the FWD can bring out the full potential with ESP constantly kicking in.
My point of diesel turbo could potentially drive better is more on the effortless perspective, due to the huge torque from low rpm on tap for effortless acceleration especially on sloppy area. However, this doesn't immediately translate to diesel turbo is definitely faster than petrol turbo. I will agree that turbo diesel is a more efficient engine than turbo petrol, that's for sure.
Still, I would like to stick with data. I know I don't have video and such, but I don't have time to dig them out, I think plenty of automaker reviewer has tested the acceleration anyway.
2.2-gls-skyactiv-d-2wd-20182.2-gls-skyactiv-d-awd-20181.5tc-2wd-20189.1s vs 9.5s vs 8.8s for 0-100km/h figure.
Let me stress again, I do think diesel turbo could accelerate effortlessly with light tap on the paddle. So in a rolling start condition, I can imagine petrol turbo would need some time to catch up during the initial few seconds on acceleration. However, diesel turbo loses out in the high power area (high RPM) due to diesel engine is inherantly heavier with more rugged component, stroke distance is longer, thus limiting its power making ability.
As a daily fwd driver on mostly city roads/highway.. I can tell for a fact.. the AWD is not needed.. Notice even Mazda themselves are phasing it out. I have never one day experienced wheel spin.. Yet, I can peel away from the toll gate or traffic light and leave all behind effortlessly...(okay, not all lar.. also got folks with more powerful engines out there.. we race sikit, then brake.. Can catch or maintain speed with a surprise) all without having to breach 3K - 4K RPM. 4K RPM+ being really flat kickdown and hold.. Similarly going uphill.. There's no loss in power delivery especially on the highways.. Car just chugs on and on and on.. You said it yourself above.. Rolling start la, bla bla.. When I want to overtake or perform sudden evasive maneuvers.. I have 100% confidence that the engine and handling WILL match me throttle press for press, steering turn for turn.. No lag.. no hesistance.. nthg.. just pull, shift, swerve and keep going where I want it to... just push it and it's done. Hence my stance.. Want a driver's car? The answer is unmistakable.. Want a somewhat okay-ish car that can carry more stuff & care about RV (somewhat)? Get the CRV. I'll reiterate, the CRV is not a slow car. It's just not the best in comparison WHERE driving dynamics and handling is concerned..
QUOTE(l2k @ Aug 5 2019, 04:40 PM)
A bit more experience to share. As I gained more experience with all these driving assists stuff, I think there is a small "flaw" not particularly in Honda Sensing, but in general, all adaptive cruise control. It tends to leave quite a big safety distance from the front car (the distance is correlated to speed for Honda sensing, and it has 4 setting to adjust, but even with closest setting, it does have some gap). In Malaysia, unfortunately we have too many fast and furious wannabe in the highway that when they see a gap, they will immediately cut in and what happens next is the adaptive cruise control will trigger and brake the car. What this means is adaptive cruise control is actually less desirable in moderate-heavy traffic condition. Other than this, Low Speed Follow has been excellent as a stress release tool in traffic jam, except it is overly sensitive in throttle and braking occasionally (Human knows how to cruise and brake, software is not that intelligent). I can imagine this will be improved in the future with AI and deep learning, 5G connectivity with car to car communication, but this is out of scope for this discussion.

This one is mentality problem.. What to do.. All the Assists won't help and it's not safe (for now) to allow cars to almost tailgate other cars in front. Perhaps in the future when cars can communicate amongst themselves.. not unlike how Network routers maintain a steady flow.. Then we can zip around on full automated drives, without worrying (much) about others manually disrupting the flow. For now, as you say... Better to rely on manual driving and or be ready to completely take over in a second to avoid an accident. Actually, the reason you pointed out, was one of which made me end up realizing I can do away with Honda Sensing for now. Volvo and Tesla's would be my minimum benchmarks.
QUOTE(l2k @ Aug 5 2019, 05:14 PM)
Let's go slightly more technical and compare to both hp/torque curve of 2.2D and 1.5T.
https://www.automobile-catalog.com/curve/20...-d_175_awd.htmlhttps://www.automobile-catalog.com/curve/20...bo_awd_cvt.htmlNotice how 2.2D tops @ 2000rpm and quickly goes down to about 240nm @ 5000rpm. 1.5T on the other hand maintains 240nm to 5500rpm and starts to decrease from there. It means at high RPM region, petrol engine still able to maintain its torque and thus, due to the equation, produces more HP.
Again, this is just a chart, it doesn't imply which is faster or slower. Just want to stress my point that diesel turbo is effortless in acceleration in low rpm but when comes to pedal to metal condition, petrol will not lose out. So goes back to the scenario where there from 180km/h suddenly drops down to 110km/h, indeed diesel could gain back speed for first few seconds intiially, but petrol will catch up. Honda's CVT as I mentioned earlier, tends to "downshift" pretty quickly, coupled with peddle shift, could offset some disadvantage.
Apologize to CRV owners or potential future owners here as I think I goes a bit off topic already..

I'd like to first apologize for not bothering to visit the links to more videos. I saw plenty during my research over a 2 year period.. Some here can attest to my hesitance back then. Head over heart.. The heart won in the end. Minus a few kinks? She's a good lad. My message above sums it up.. No need think so much.. Really, take your CRV (reason I say this is that the driving feel is still fresh) and head down to a show room.. Grab a 2.2D FWD.. hit the highway with a couple turns .. ups and downs.. Maybe even do a Genting run.. Etc.. which experts have already done.. The experience you'll have will be sufficient to settle this for you.. No need to apologize all. Both cars are good in their respective departments. Just like I can't argue against the space advantage (fact), mazda's diesel turbo, NVH and driving dynamics is simply no match for the CRV. This is fact. We can agree to disagree.. I can respect that..no biggie.. I'm just here to mingle as a fan. Still a Honda boy.
This post has been edited by voncrane: Aug 7 2019, 02:18 PM