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post Sep 4 2024, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(KingArthurVI @ Sep 3 2024, 11:22 PM)
For this car I really don't want any headaches so I went with JPJ compliant spec for FWS and front windows, so 70% for front and 50% for sides I believe. However the rear windshield and rear windows are tinted to the max they're very very dark since it's unregulated and I don't want my baby sitting in the back to kena sunlight laugh.gif
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Actually I don't like max dark, eye a bit strain to see at night with dim lighting.

For me the best balance between dark and sunlight is about 20% to 25% VLT (normally some VLT 30 tint goes to that range). The sunlight is dim a lot liao yet still bring in suffcient light in without straining eyes.

Oh btw, 70% tint mostly will still fail Puspakom tint meter reading when you decide to transfer ownership of car. 80% tint only can garantee a pass.
Road block, no one will check 70% clear tint so no issue.
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post Sep 4 2024, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(KingArthurVI @ Sep 3 2024, 07:17 PM)
I installed it because my SA said there have been a couple of recent cases where warranty repairs were denied by HM corporate because customers installed dashcam on their own outside, and the hybrid RS has a more complex circuitry so it's better to err on the safe side.

It was RM1149 including installation and they tap it into the fuse so it has parking standby recording, which gets triggered when the G-force sensor detects significant movement. TBH I installed it for peace of mind since I was going to install a third-party dashcam into the fuse and that idea made me nervous since this is a new car.

The only downside of this Honda dashcam (aside from price) is that it's Full HD (1080p) when other aftermarket ones are actually 4K at this day and age.

The app is okay/usable since other Chinese dashcams like 70Mai and DDPAI have bad apps anyway. The app looks simple but is quite functional, it was easy to view front/rear footage and also to pull specific day's worth of footage out. It was better than the DDPAI app IMO (my old dashcam was DDPAI) because the DDPAI app makes you scrub manually to find the footage you want but the app here shows you based on trip.
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I am using DDPAI Z50 in my other cars. So far app ok wor. Personally I think they are way better than Honda basic app. No sure why other seems to think it is celup. The video list of DDPAI is a bit celup tho but other than that, everything are better, at least for Z50 features and in the app. There are way more customized configuration to suit our preference in DDPAI and 70Mai. IMO, it is way better than Honda basic features app.

Honda dashcam quality cannot see moving car plate number but in general still ok if you don't mind the car plate number moving capture, just when compared with the DDPai and 70Mai, don't even go near to them especially in the dark.

The parking mode has almost no control vs DDPAI. Cannot set cutoff power to dashcam if battery goes low (DDPAI can set to 12.4V cut off to prevent dead battery). The feature is very basic, practically functionless compared with other brands but for basic fire and forget dashcam, I am Ok with it tho. It worked as it should as a basic fire and forget dashcam. Just the price, can buy 2 units of other brands and they will likely better features and video quality than Honda.

The only reason to install this is for avoid warranty issue only. Also I like that they have cable casing (other dashcam cables are exposed).

I have not heard of any case of warranty void due to dashcam tho but then not all ppl post their warranty void issue on the web.
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post Sep 4 2024, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Sep 4 2024, 09:45 AM)
Actually I don't like max dark, eye a bit strain to see at night with dim lighting.

For me the best balance between dark and sunlight is about 20% to 25% VLT (normally some VLT 30 tint goes to that range). The sunlight is dim a lot liao yet still bring in suffcient light in without straining eyes.

Oh btw, 70% tint mostly will still fail Puspakom tint meter reading when you decide to transfer ownership of car. 80% tint only can garantee a pass.
Road block, no one will check 70% clear tint so no issue.
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Yeah the tint will GG when time comes for ownership transfer, but I’m planning to keep this for maybe 8 years until battery warranty is gone and when my kid is older so dad can switch to a small fun car smile.gif

Agreed the tint is hard to see out at night, I have to be careful and look twice over my right shoulder when checking right blind spot, at least left side can use LaneWatch.

QUOTE(Cavino @ Sep 4 2024, 09:58 AM)
I am using DDPAI Z50 in my other cars. So far app ok wor. Personally I think they are way better than Honda basic app. No sure why other seems to think it is celup. The video list of DDPAI is a bit celup tho but other than that, everything are better, at least for Z50 features and in the app. There are way more customized configuration to suit our preference in DDPAI and 70Mai. IMO, it is way better than Honda basic features app.

Honda dashcam quality cannot see moving car plate number but in general still ok if you don't mind the car plate number moving capture, just when compared with the DDPai and 70Mai, don't even go near to them especially in the dark.

The parking mode has almost no control vs DDPAI. Cannot set cutoff power to dashcam if battery goes low (DDPAI can set to 12.4V cut off to prevent dead battery). The feature is very basic, practically functionless compared with other brands but for basic fire and forget dashcam, I am Ok with it tho. It worked as it should as a basic fire and forget dashcam.  Just the price, can buy 2 units of other brands and they will likely better features and video quality than Honda.

The only reason to install this is for avoid warranty issue only. Also I like that they have cable casing (other dashcam cables are exposed).

I have not heard of any case of warranty void due to dashcam tho but then not all ppl post their warranty void issue on the web.
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Surprisingly the Honda dashcam does have auto cutoff when 12V battery voltage is low, it’s in the manual. Obviously it’s not as feature rich as the DDPAI and 70Mai overall but my main priority is install and forget, and I don’t want to tap into the fuse by outside workshop. The app is basic but is very easy to use, even non tech savvy people you can get them to download the footage easily without needing to scrub and find the exact day of footage.

I haven’t dared look at the actual shitty 1080p quality at night… but I bet the sensor is crap so it’s likely not super usable 🤪🫣
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Guys. 2 questions here. Hope someone can share their knowledge. Focusing on RS model.

1. Does putting gear in N during traffic light stop will conserve battery? I think will save the battery coz no power send to motor. If in D, the power still flows to motor. Any thought?

2. Is the generative braking using paddle shift give same behaviour as dropping gear using paddle shift? Interm of tyre grip.

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post Sep 4 2024, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(fazleysyam @ Sep 4 2024, 08:13 PM)
Guys. 2 questions here. Hope someone can share their knowledge. Focusing on RS model.

1. Does putting gear in N during traffic light stop will conserve battery? I think will save the battery coz no power send to motor. If in D, the power still flows to motor. Any thought?

2. Is the generative braking using paddle shift give same behaviour as dropping gear using paddle shift? Interm of tyre grip.
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1. Not really. Even while in D with brake hold activated, the power flow monitor will show you there’s no power going to the wheels at all. The battery is only powering your AC and other accessories while idling (if you have at least 3 bars of charge).

2. It’s slightly different. The electric motor inverts the rotational force to produce a magnetic field (Newton 3rd law I believe) that generates electrical power going back to the battery. I don’t think you’ll get wheel spin by having too much regen (unlike if you suddenly went first gear)
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QUOTE(KingArthurVI @ Sep 4 2024, 08:33 PM)
1. Not really. Even while in D with brake hold activated, the power flow monitor will show you there’s no power going to the wheels at all. The battery is only powering your AC and other accessories while idling (if you have at least 3 bars of charge).

2. It’s slightly different. The electric motor inverts the rotational force to produce a magnetic field (Newton 3rd law I believe) that generates electrical power going back to the battery. I don’t think you’ll get wheel spin by having too much regen (unlike if you suddenly went first gear)
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1. Understood bro. That make sense. So no point shifting to N.

2. Not referring to wheel spin. But more on engine braking concept. Sometimes when taking corner u drop ur gear to slow down the car, must likely to avoid brake lock. Can we achieve the same using regen breaking. I like the feeling taking sharp corner using regen braking. Takut kena brake lock

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QUOTE(fazleysyam @ Sep 4 2024, 08:56 PM)
1. Understood bro. That make sense. So no point shifting to N.

2. Not referring to wheel spin. But more on engine braking concept. Sometimes when taking corner u drop ur gear to slow down the car, must likely to avoid brake lock. Can we achieve the same using regen breaking. I like the feeling taking sharp corner using regen braking. Takut kena brake lock
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You won't get brake lock because of ABS, and you can also change the regen to suit your driving style and expectations. When I go downhill I'm in B mode with max regen, but when I'm coming to a 90-degree turn, I've found that tapping the downshift paddle (-) by about 2–3 times would usually suffice to slow me down so I can take the corner without having to press the brake pedal at all.
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post Sep 5 2024, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(fazleysyam @ Sep 4 2024, 08:13 PM)
Guys. 2 questions here. Hope someone can share their knowledge. Focusing on RS model.

1. Does putting gear in N during traffic light stop will conserve battery? I think will save the battery coz no power send to motor. If in D, the power still flows to motor. Any thought?

2. Is the generative braking using paddle shift give same behaviour as dropping gear using paddle shift? Interm of tyre grip.
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Add on a bit info (not sure if this is outdated tho)

1. I heard that generally in Hybrid, switching to gear N will disengage the HV Battery charging (that is general knowledge but does not know if it apply to Honda eHev, never bother to try tho).

There IS really no more reason to engage N gear (it should only be used for car servicing, maintenance and emergency purpose).

During driving, switching on the parking brake or better yet Hold during traffic light worked so much better. That is why parking brake hold are invented in the first place. I normally switch off parking brake hold during highway or non-city drive. Will switch on during traffic light or leave it one on roads with number of traffic lights.

2. While it has similar feel like engine braking in manual or auto cars, it worked differently internally. In terms of tyre grip, yes, it is similar tho like ICE car engine braking.

Generally hybrid like this prefer to generate power thru tractions motor. So use it as often as you like to slow down the car before pressing brake. The feeling is exactly the same like dropping gear but while constant engine braking for purpose of slowing down in ICE's gear transmission might wear out the drivetrain / transmission, hybrid motor traction motor are designed to handle the reverse traction to generate electric, so unlike ICE engine braking with pro and cons, Hybrid has all the pro and none of the cons.

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nice. thanks all for the information shared.

most of the time i didnt shift to N. but just wonder

As for the regen braking, its just a concern when taking corner. other than brake lock, its the weight distribution. just the typical concern when taking corner on the ICE car. but with the info shared, i believe the risk is quite minimal.
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QUOTE(fazleysyam @ Sep 5 2024, 10:21 AM)
nice. thanks all for the information shared.

most of the time i didnt shift to N. but just wonder

As for the regen braking, its just a concern when taking corner. other than brake lock, its the weight distribution. just the typical concern when taking corner on the ICE car. but with the info shared, i believe the risk is quite minimal.
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Ya, coz its the traction motor and gears doing the work in the engine bay, I believe the weight distribution when using regen while cornering will not affect regen gears. It will be the usual suspension, etc similar to ICE car. If you read up on the traction motor and related gears, I think you would understand it alone will not cause any brake lock. That is more towards your kaki on your brake if necessary, then it's back to usual ICE car experience on braking and possible brake lock if brake too hard.

"With regen you don't get the equivalent of 'compression lock'. The reason is that regen comes in a lot more progressively as it is computer-controlled, and doesn't lock the wheels up… unless maybe you're on ice or similar. Also, regen only brakes the car at around 0.3g which isn't much"

This phrase from an article might not be 100% to our eHev but it reflects on regen braking on brake locking...

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QUOTE(:zeus: @ Sep 3 2024, 10:31 AM)
Thanks for the experience sharing! Definitely can see clearly at night with Diamond 30, but probably haziness due to water not dries up yet like you said. I'll report out later to see if the haziness still there/water dries up.
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Am using Diamond 30 on FWS on my old car. that haziness and line will clear up in few days. mine took almost 4 days in hot sun.


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This guy offer BSM RCTA for CRV G6. Looks interesting.

https://youtu.be/C1Uc-Rnnwys?si=aQFW4tQNRbcNGn-A

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QUOTE(Snuffykl @ Sep 5 2024, 09:00 PM)
This guy offer BSM RCTA for CRV G6. Looks interesting.

https://youtu.be/C1Uc-Rnnwys?si=aQFW4tQNRbcNGn-A
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door to door service. pls pm me if u want the contact no. not by me. seller in G6 whatsapp group. he also sell other items such as grill net, side step, led, lalala...

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QUOTE(fazleysyam @ Sep 5 2024, 10:12 PM)
door to door service. pls pm me if u want the contact no. not by me. seller in G6 whatsapp group. he also sell other items such as grill net, side step, led, lalala...

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Damn. You installed? How's everything?
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QUOTE(fazleysyam @ Sep 5 2024, 10:21 AM)
nice. thanks all for the information shared.

most of the time i didnt shift to N. but just wonder

As for the regen braking, its just a concern when taking corner. other than brake lock, its the weight distribution. just the typical concern when taking corner on the ICE car. but with the info shared, i believe the risk is quite minimal.
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does honda has the brake hold feature like mercedes benz?
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QUOTE(19 Degree South @ Sep 5 2024, 11:49 PM)
does honda has the brake hold feature  like mercedes benz?
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Yes, it's standard on Civic and CR-V. For City I think only RS models have it, since you need electronic parking brake for the feature.
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Quick check on RS, how to set the Radio Data System (RDS)? Dont quite understand the manual's page 310.

Also I found my Android Auto mostly hang - when something approaches the car (ie motocycles) and it switches to 360 cam then the screen normally hang afterwards. Anyone faces this?

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QUOTE(:zeus: @ Sep 6 2024, 12:02 AM)
Quick check on RS, how to set the Radio Data System (RDS)? Dont quite understand the manual's page 310.
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I dont think malaysian version got RDS

So far no issue using AA. No hang at all

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QUOTE(KingArthurVI @ Sep 5 2024, 11:05 PM)
Damn. You installed? How's everything?
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No la bos. Not at moment. Saving for future claim..hehehe

To me bsm only state theres a car next to u. It doesnt state how fast is the car. I will still turn my head to confirm the lane is clear. So bsm is less priority to me.

Like 360cam la. Always use rear n side mirror when parking..once all safe then only use the cam to adjust the car

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