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post Dec 23 2007, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(JEHUTHI @ Dec 23 2007, 12:11 PM)
Hi guys~  I am curious what shipping method you guys use when buying DVD/HD DVD from amazon ??
I pre-ordered "Transformers" (16/10 released)with standard international shipping, received it on 15/12  !!! rclxub.gif
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something is wrong somewhere. it cannot be that long! i bet custom people took the disk home and watched the movie with a player that no body claimed. he then forgot all about the disk and only brought it back to the office a month latter !! tongue.gif
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QUOTE(XenoFr3ak @ Dec 24 2007, 10:24 AM)
This is woot i got my my Xmas present for myself ... woohooo rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif

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Well .. in fact, i got it earlier tongue.gif
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QUOTE(arj @ Dec 28 2007, 06:34 PM)
That's never gonna happen. At least not while Blu-ray is still alive and kickin'. MGM/Sony are BD exclusive studios biggrin.gif
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erm - might be released by European distributor though - James Bond - other Sony films have been released in HD DVD before tongue.gif


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QUOTE(arj @ Dec 29 2007, 12:10 AM)
But the story I heard moons ago said that HD DVD will get the normal trilogy while BD gets the Extended Edition. Dunno how true is that unsure.gif
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Rumors has it, New Line will go HD DVD exclusive next week during CES laugh.gif - RUMOR - lah

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QUOTE(XenoFr3ak @ Jan 1 2008, 12:19 AM)
New Line Cinema is already a HD DVD exclusive liao ... goto the main HD DVD website and its there along side with Warner Bros and Paramount smile.gif
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not exclusive lah ! Warners and New Line are currently neutral

the reason that you see some of New Line movies in BD before HD DVD is due to the fact that new line as a smaller company has different screening time for their movies around the globe. Because HD DVD does not have region coding currently, they are unable to release the title as it can be imported and played on any HD DVD players in the world wink.gif
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QUOTE(sunauto @ Jan 2 2008, 02:10 AM)
Yup, New Line Cinema is not exclusive to the HD-DVD format, otherwise my Rush Hour 3 won't be on the Blu-Ray format. Here's some pics of my Rush Hour 3 Blu-Ray, with DTS-HD 7.1 sound ....... freaking awesome. If they could bring their LOTR Trilogy to either format, I'll definitely buy them. Very good effort by New Line Cinema, Rush Hour 3 was neatly done and mastered, it's on two blu-ray discs.

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rumour only

there are talks that New Line will be HD DVD exclusive during CES and LOTR will be announced on HD DVD using a triple layer HD DVD disk laugh.gif

rumour only - remember that whistling.gif
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jan 2 2008, 11:48 PM)
Tired! Sore muscles, and my back hurts....but results? Most satisfying!

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Sony Bravia 40X200A, Sony US PS3, Pioneer SE-DIR800C, Onkyo DV-HD805 HD-DVD player, Onkyo TX-SR605, Onkyo SKS-HT235.

The Pio headphone spits out DD5.1 & DTS via Dolby Headphone, itself hooked up to the Onkyo HD-DVD player via coaxial, PS3 via optical. The primary audio drivers are by the SR-605 + SKS-HT235 combo definitely, but for those late nights, the Pio does its duty. Have to switch the audio out from both the HD-DVD player and PS3 manually though, since they are both set to output audio via bitstream to the SR605 for one-to-one audio reproduction.

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Close-up on the left column stack. Splitfish FragFX sits on top after my daily fragfest on UT3.

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The rear speakers does not come with a stand, had to get em separately. The front speakers comes with the stand that sits nicely on the entertainment cabinet. Nice heavy glass bottom for that lower C of G (center of gravity) but the bottom of the glass are embedded with 3 conical points to reduce speaker-induced vibration.

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But im most ecstatic when this shows on the SR605, makes all that effort and grunting and heaving these things, and all the back-pain worthwhile. Got this lighted up on the receiver while running Pan's Labyrinth on HD-DVD, with audio bitstream passthrough from the HD805.

Ran the Audyssey SQ microphone soundfield check to determine the calculative audio placement, and am impressed with now newbie-friendly it is. I admit, im a noob myself when it comes to this, but the ease of use, and prompt-tp-prompt instructions had me turning from "intimidated" to "informed".

Ran the Digital Video Essential HD-DVD, and during the audio tests, Dolby TrueHD lights up appropriately, so that works nicely.

Mr. & Mrs.Smith on Blu-ray however, only lights up as "Multi PCM", but sounded just as good to my ears anyway. Had it running on the 5.1 DTS HD-MA but with the PS3's inability to either decode DTS HD-MA or send the lossless audio via bitstream, you can only expect DTS HD-core from the PS3. Dolby TrueHD should be one-to-one via bitstream on the PS3, although it is internally decoded by the PS3 and fed to the receiver as Lossless PCM.

Next stop? Nintendo Wii video upscaling to 720p.
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jan 3 2008, 12:34 PM)
Satellites are small speakers, the size of two deck of cards stacked together, for that small size advantage, but not sacrificing much on the audio driving capabilities.

Example of a satellite speaker system:-

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QUOTE(Sd-RawK-Cab25 @ Jan 3 2008, 11:37 AM)
w00t! susah la want to challenge bro string...hehehe loaded setup!

say..i've been wanting to get a good budget surround sound system for my room..kinda small room..so gotta take echoes into consideration.

right now i have an altec lansing 2.1 system..old system for my PC. using the audio jack adapter for my x360.

so what do you guys recommend, for me to get:

- surround sound to take advantage of the 5.1 dts sound from hd-dvds
- not too big a setup to accommodate my small room
- budget : not more than RM 1K (if possible)
- extra: should also have an extra audio input for my PC

thanks you hardware gurus! smile.gif
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hmm just get the Pioneer HTIB - the Pioneer Tall Boy series wink.gif from RM1,500-RM2K. Its not that big and comes with a upconvert DVD player and built in amp tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Sd-RawK-Cab25 @ Jan 3 2008, 11:22 PM)
okay..so i think i know where to plug the fiber optic cable on my x360 (using the audio adapter since video using hdmi), but i couldn't see where should i plug it in the R501.

the speakers don't have optical cable input. which means it would only receive 5.1 analog (which i assume that means separate cables for left, right, center and bass)..and how do i go about doing that with my x360 eh? i mean how would my connection be like from the x360?

UPDATE: whoops..bro string just answered my question. no can do with analog since r501 doesn't have hdmi or optical inputs.

bummer....back to the lists again i guess..  laugh.gif
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Hi,

Thank you for contacting MS.

In response to your query on getting a 5.1 surround sound from XBox 360 without using the HDMI or Optical output, I am sorry to inform you that officially, you can only get the 5.1 surround sound using the two mentioned options.

Please do note that a Z680 Logitech 5.1 speaker with both Optical and Coaxial digital input is selling for <>RM900.

If you insist you to use the R501 speaker, i suggest that you go to Jalan Pasar and get an amplifier with Optical input for <>RM250. But makesure that your R501 speakers can sustain the power output of the said amplifier.

Good luck and hope you enjoy our xbox 360.


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Holly Fvck !! I am SHOCKED !!! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Well, if Warners think the replication cost and issues are not significant to throw their exclusive support to BD well all the best. Hopefully the prices of BD players will continue to drop and technology continue to improves.

now waiting for the revised HD DVD CES press con !!

announcing the decision five months before time ... hehehe something fishy here. Might as well as stop HD DVD support immediately.

still extremely dissappointed at Warners though. Well i can now scrap my plan to get a hidef TV now biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(craven dusk @ Jan 6 2008, 05:53 PM)
g5sim,

The replication cost will eventually come down. But that's not the whole point. Considering the hidef market after replacing dvd as the mainstream media content, its next to nothing. WB did not bite any candy dangled in front of them. They are more to lose if they sided with the wrong camp.

What was worrying that sales of DVD dropped despite strong box-office showings. Sales of DVDs has a strong relation how well it does in box office. Recent sales data of DVD has been contradicting with performances in box office. It was worrying.

It has come to light, many held off DVD purchases to sit out the format war. They wanted to buy the movie in hidef, once and for all, but since there is no clear choice, they waited.

Also, those had already decided to go hidef route anyhow, also sitting out until the dust settles.

This confusion is killing both SD DVD and HD.
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i am afraid that the hidef will die out because if HD DVD becomes the value added feature for DVD. There are ONLY to replicators of BD50 at the moment. BD is not ready for prime time!

WB bit the candy dangling infront of them. Well after FOX bit theirs biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

People DO NOT held off hidef purchase because of the format war. It is because of the high price. DVD sales shrink is because there are plenty of other movie watching options. such as digital download. And people especially the US people no longer trust media (TV) as they used to. This affected their purchase of media (DVD included).

and if Toshiba and MS is adamant to keep HD DVD as the replacement for DVD. They will no doubt in mind, get Disney and Liongs Gate to be HD DVD exclusive by all means! The FOX ship has sailed the BD way.

I blame Toshiba and MS for being over confident on warner bros !! vmad.gif vmad.gif

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QUOTE(craven dusk @ Jan 6 2008, 09:33 PM)
g5sim, I hope you can appreciate the fact that standalone hidef players has come down dramatically. Toshiba's entry player was selling for USD99. I dont think u can say its expensive. HiDef titiles now are previously price held by DVDs. So its not expensive either. Regarding other movie options that is debatable and trusting media in regards to purchasing DVD, I really lost u there. I never considered media to be my purchasing decision. Kindly enlighten me in this matter. Share me with your thoughts.

I do agree HDDVD is evolutionary product and BD being a revolutionary product short of gold.

I believe Toshiba and Microsoft did the best they could to sway things their side. I won't think they were over confident. It's just that the majority of the industry knows best.

Regarding, WB bit the carrot, I don't think hyprocrisy is the part of the evaluation.
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Paramount bit the carrot, FOX bit the carrot (again) and WB followed FOX wink.gif

as per the US people no longer trust Media as they used too part: this has to do with the over growing popularity of Critidal Discourse after the Bush - FOX scandal and how US people were exposed to the tactic used by FOX to drive US citizens to believe Bush's war rythorics that started the Irag invasion. And how Bush won the presidential election through Fox. wink.gif

higher price is also a problem with BD - the problem will continue in the foreseeable future. BDA made it abundantly clear that they are in the business to sell expensive hardware to rip maximum profit! The cheaper players sold below $300 are 1.0 players that retailers are eager to sell anticipating profile 1.1 and 2.0 BD players that will be announced during CES. I believe we will not see any BD 2.0 players at > $500.

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QUOTE(craven dusk @ Jan 6 2008, 10:09 PM)
erm.. So you don't watch movies by FOX? U dont watch Star Wars??  How is that related to purchasing DVDs? Dude u make me laugh.

USD99 Toshiba HD DVD players is only 1080i. I dont see any difference from your reasoning. Dude, u make me laugh.

Please don't get too emotional about this.
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how difficult is to understand that not everyone needs 1080i? getting 1080p is a waste of money for these people! It was BD's hindsight that caused this mess because they wanted to look for superior spec wise

i said in my post that Bush and FOX's action had dramatically reduced the masses trust in media! When people do not trust the media, they do not consume media. I have been without a TV for several years and depend on internet almost solely for news instead of watching RTM n TV3 news or reading the star or nst!


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QUOTE(craven dusk @ Jan 6 2008, 10:36 PM)
Dude, u are contradicting yourself

Yeah you are right abt FOX and its media. But how is that related to you buying movies? Kindly educate me.

Simple question, do you watch Star Wars? Yes/No.
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if you dont trust media, you dont consume them. as simple as that!

Yes i have all three Star Wars movies (episode 1-3) so what? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Jan 7 2008, 10:27 AM)
api, dun bother abt the format, go get ur next gen audio equipments

g5sim, just askign lar... if hor(IF)... hd dvd mati, u still buying a player and some few disc just to show ur support? irregardless u got ur hdtv or not
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maybe - but if BD players profile 2.0 (reputable brands) reached $179 or $99, then have to think twice lah !! i am not the kind that waste money to prove a point. the whole warner announcing exclusive support to BD 6 months to the end of their HD DVD contract scared the hell out of me of the power of $$$$ ! Warner had alwasy had this nice good guys image to me but. see how see how. Might give up movie all together as i gave up on Malaysian media.


QUOTE(ICDeadPeople @ Jan 7 2008, 11:54 AM)
Now i have to scrap my plan to 'smuggle' A35 from US............
Have to wait than.
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yeah - look see look see how MS and Toshiba reacts. They might show their pocket aces - announcing going forward, Universsal, Paramount and Dreamworks will only sell combo HD DVD/DVD title of all their non catalogue titles. Courtesy of Toshiba subsidizing the cost differences off standard dvd replication. But that is a long shot biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

QUOTE(rx330 @ Jan 7 2008, 12:23 PM)
well, its good to straighten ur tots

but the 2 inputs is a put off for me, relying on astro? better dun waste my time.....
but how much the difference?
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I gave up astro long long long time ago. if anyone wants the dish and decoder, feel free to come to my place i am will give the set away! wink.gif
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anyhow :

HD DVD players surpasses 1mil mark wink.gif

http://www.reuters.com/article/pressReleas...008+PRN20080107


LAS VEGAS, Jan. 7 /PRNewswire/ -- At the 2008 Consumer Electronics Show in
Las Vegas, the companies of the HD DVD Promotional Group recapped a
breakthrough year for the high definition format, reaching nearly one million
dedicated HD DVD players sold in North America and delivering on the promise
of affordability, quality and a consistent experience on every machine. With
a leading install base of dedicated players, there are now more than 400
titles available in the US and more than 1,000 titles available worldwide.
During the key five week holiday selling period, HD DVD software sales grew at
nearly twice the rate of Blu-ray, which was consistent with increased player
growth.

"Our focus from day one has been to deliver the highest quality hardware
and the best, most immersive home entertainment experiences for consumers at
affordable prices," said Jodi Sally, vice president of marketing, Toshiba's
Digital A/V Group. "With nearly one million dedicated players in the market
in North America, and a leading position in the PC market worldwide, we're
seeing software growth follow suit."

As the industry looks for a format that can break into the mainstream
consumer market, HD DVD continues to be the affordable, high quality leader,
setting the bar for a positive consumer experience. Through a combination of
quality and price, HD DVD meets the essential requirements for any format to
successfully reach the mass market.

Strong Hardware and Title Growth

In 2007, HD DVD reached a broader group of consumers than ever before,
showing strong movie title sales and high attach rates stemming from the major
influx of dedicated HD DVD players on the market. Based on Nielsen data, when
comparing first week consumer sales, "The Bourne Ultimatum" on HD DVD outsold
"Spiderman 3" on Blu-ray. Among all high definition formats, HD DVD still
maintains the highest attach rates -- more than twice the rate of Blu-ray.

"The HD DVD camp has always stuck to a simple set of principles," said Ken
Graffeo, executive vice president of HD strategic marketing for Universal
Studios Home Entertainment, and co-president of the HD DVD Promotional Group.
"Give consumers who buy into HD DVD what they paid for. In fact, give them
more than they expected. Show them that quality and value go hand in hand
with HD DVD. Show them what advanced interactivity really means and how it
can enrich your favorite movies that you watch over and over."

To this point, Toshiba's HD DVD players received several Editor's Choice
and Product of the Year awards from respected media outlets, including Sound &
Vision, Electronic House, E-Gear, and Ultimate AV.

On the PC front, the HD DVD Promotional Group announced that by the end of
2007, HD DVD-enabled PCs represented more than 80% of all high
definition-capable PCs. The HD DVD companies expect notebook PCs in particular
to be the variable that helps keep quality high, but prices low, by driving
down manufacturing costs for drives across all HD DVD players.

Global Studio Support

A critical milestone for HD DVD in helping to drive strong sales across
the board was the strong support from Hollywood studios and global content
providers. In 2007, HD DVD went from being supported by 41 studios and
distributors worldwide to 65.

Groundbreaking Interactive Features

Using Microsoft's HDi technology, HD DVD led the way in 2007 with
never-before-seen interactive experiences that have changed how consumers
interact with their favorite movies. HD DVD was the first to offer true
picture in picture director's commentary in 2007 with Warner's "300". This
feature was not included in the Blu-ray version, and showcases a key HD DVD
feature that caters directly to the fan community. Universal's "Heroes" and
Paramount's "Transformers" also included picture in picture features than
enhance the experience for fans.

HD DVD was also the first to deliver web-connected content, offering bonus
material on titles such as "The Bourne Ultimatum," "Heroes: Season 1," and
"Transformers" -- all offering downloadable content that's continually updated
so fans of the movie can return for new features. The interactive elements
are all designed to promote an enhanced "second look" environment and to rally
the fan communities around key titles. In addition, Universal launched
U-Shop, an extension of the U-Control feature, letting you buy items related
to a movie directly through the guaranteed internet connection on every HD DVD
player. Universal's "Evan Almighty" was the first title to showcase this,
illustrating what can be done when every player on the market can access these
features.

As the official successor to DVD, HD DVD has added to the heritage of the
most successful consumer electronics format ever, bringing the highest quality
HD experiences to consumers at the most affordable prices. The HD DVD Booth
at CES 2008 is located in South Hall 1 (booth #21266).

About HD DVD

HD DVD is the next generation, post-DVD standard for high capacity, high
definition optical discs, approved by the DVD Forum. The DVD Forum develops
and defines DVD formats. Its more than 200 strong membership brings together
leaders in movies and entertainment, computing, consumer electronics and
software. HD DVD is fast becoming the primary visual medium for the age of
high-definition TV. The North American HD DVD Promotional Group, Inc. is an
organization established to promote the HD DVD format and educate consumers in
North America. For more information and a complete listing of HD DVD launch
titles please visit www.TheLookAndSoundOfPerfect.com.

SOURCE North American HD DVD Promotional Group, Inc.

Lauren Mayer, lmayer@webershandwick.com, or John O'Brien,
jobrien@webershandwick.com, both of Weber Shandwick, +1-425-452-5400, for
North American HD DVD Promotional Group, Inc.
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QUOTE(apisgogo @ Jan 7 2008, 04:23 PM)
Your wish is half true. Panasonic BD50 but the price wont be USD179. smile.gif

But i still think HD-DVD is what consumer wants. Blu-Ray sales is more is because of PS3.

I dont want console game as my HDM player. and i think many will agree on this.

Studios will ultimately go for format that gonna give the cash to them.

The real battle after this will be SD-DVD and Blu-ray. Whether Blu-Ray will successfully replaces SD-DVD or not. If not, Its gonna end up like HD-DVD as well.
more the merrier smile.gif if my money also merri, no prob smile.gif
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BD - most of the stuffs that they brag about specs and stuffs that do not concern general consumers and their hardware are expensive. BDA madely abundantly clear that they are in the business to make money out of selling hardware. The main proponent - the three strongest entity in the BDA are powerful CEs. I will wait and see if we will see cheap BD hardware soon enough to make the format take off if HD DVD throws in the towel wink.gif .

My theory is, as warner's decision did not make sense to me:

Warner does not think that their move will kill off HD DVD. Once they are out of the contract in ### month and receiving tons of money from Sony, they will continue to support HD DVD maybe killed of BD by going HD DVD exclusive. Warner's BD support announcement will extremely favour them in the sense that, they get tons of money. HD DVD and BD will still be competing driving hardware prices down even faster. Warner have IP in DVD and therefore HD DVD.

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If hidef indeed doesnt take off, HD DVD can be marketted at value added feature to DVD as SACD to high end CD players. The same cannot be said about BD. wink.gif

so we will see.

i am still hoping that Toshiba will show their "pocket aces" and launching a HD DVD NOW marketing campaign. will Toshiba subsidizing combo replication to remaining exclusive studios so that they will drop standard dvd in favour of combo disks for all new releases from February til end of May. That will certainly make Warner's decision the most stupid move ever. Imagine Nielsen sales data HD DVD 99:1 Blu-ray for the whole 4 months biggrin.gif biggrin.gif - i cubiting myself so that i will wake up laugh.gif laugh.gif






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Just added a user to my ignore list. Pity have to do this, dude got some sense of insecurity and really seriously flawed view that everyone is out to get 'em :/
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dont want to sound like a sour grape wanting download to take over if HD DVD gives up, but what the heck :
just hope that who ever wins will have enough time to recoup R&D loses before services such as this takes off.

- Comcast has 24mil subcribers.
- Will offer 6,000 movies per month, with 3,000 hidef movies
- Wideband will allow more than 100mb of data transfer per second
- 4min HD movie download (how long does it to to make an Amazon movie purchase?)


http://www.reuters.com/article/internetNew...ndChannel=10003

Comcast to launch 4-min HD movie downloads

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Superfast Internet speeds on Comcast Corp this year will allow subscribers to download a whole high-definition movie in just four minutes, as the largest U.S. cable operator hastens to fight off competition from phone and satellite companies.

Comcast will also offer up to 1,000 HD movies and programs for downloads in another new service slated for 2008, in hopes of winning back customers and boosting its stock which has slumped more than 40 percent in the past year.

The Wideband superfast Internet service will mark a "quantum leap" ahead of its competitors, Comcast Chief Executive Brian Roberts told Reuters in an interview before the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas.

Conventional DSL requires six hours to download an HD movie.

"Wideband takes four channels and bonds them together and will enable speeds to go up from 12-16 megabits a second to over 100 megabits a second," said Roberts.

Roberts said Wideband would be available to millions of homes in 2008, but he would not be more specific on a timeframe or a retail price range for the new service.

"If it's as successful as we plan we'll roll it out to tens of millions of home shortly thereafter," he added.

Super-fast download speeds could render the debate on high-definition disc formats moot, even as Hollywood studios are fighting over whether to back the Blu-Ray or HD-DVD disc systems.

Comcast is building a library of 1,000 high-definition choices of channels and on-demand programming by end of 2008, and will eventually have more than 6,000 movies a month with more than 3,000 of them in HD, it said.

The so-called Project Infinity is an ongoing plan to allow subscribers as much video-on-demand TV shows and movies as the company can license, with the widest range of HD available.

"We want to make it demonstrably clear that we have the best TV service," said Roberts.

Analysts have said satellite operators such as DIRECTV Group and EchoStar Communications Corp's Dish Network have done a better job convincing subscribers they offer the best HD television service.

In the second half of 2007 Comcast started losing subscribers and said it expects more to drop out this year. Last month the increasing economic pressure on subscribers forced it to lower its cable revenue growth forecast for 2007.

Comcast, with more 24 million subscribers, has seen its share price fall more than 40 percent since the end of January 2007 as investors worry that the company is facing a weakening U.S. economy and stiffer-than-expected competition from nascent advanced video and Internet services from phone companies AT&T Inc and Verizon Communications Inc.

Comcast edged up 16 cents to close at $17 on Nasdaq on Monday, compared with a high of $30.18 a year ago.

(Reporting by Yinka Adegoke, editing by Richard Chang)
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Jan 9 2008, 10:20 AM)
g5sim, after knowing u for quite some time, i was wondering are u in malaysia or in US ar?
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post Jan 9 2008, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Jan 9 2008, 04:41 PM)
thanks for clarifying, i kept thinking u were based in US by the way u post
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