Good Friday, not 'easter day'.......and sunday will be easter sunday......maybe you need to visit sabah or sarawak (domestic tourism mah) to learn these things......today is a ph there too.........

it is summer now and i'm always with my long sleeves most of the time when I'm out

that is a sign of the utter failure of the msian education, that while so much of school history is islamic history, malay/muslims know so little about other religions and cultures.........

I hardly wore short sleeves in NZ. Always hot sleeves. In summer also.

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Added on March 21, 2008, 2:37 pm
/me cries at the stupidity of Malaysians here.

Today is Good Friday. Monday will be Easter. Without going too much into religon, Good Friday was the day Jesus was crucified, and he rose on Easter. Hence the holidays here.

Limeuu is right; you "westerners" should come to Sabah and Sarawak more often.

For the record <EdLiNa>, the ph limeuu was refering to means public holiday.

Yes, it is (the end of) summer now in NZ, and no, it never gets as hot as Malaysia. Maybe you'll get a few warm days one or two days a year, but that's pretty much it.
So much for allegedly reading this whole thread.

the difference is, they live in a 90% christian country........

malaysia has almost 50% non muslims, mostly christians in the borneo states, and yet, political expediency decides that must not be known openly......

kiwi schools studies comparative religions in school.........and that is all.......any other religious instructions (whatever religion) is outside the formal school curriculum........and an individual choice.....

i don't have to explain the situation in msia........

Okay, yesterday was the Prophet Muhammad's birthday, But I'd say it was Hari Raya yesterday, just because it sounds more "geng" and fun and sounds like more food to eat.

Believe me, some kiwi's know more about M'sia than you think. You can complain that the 'locals" may not understand Islam, but have you, as a Muslim, ever considered to understand other religons?

Since Malaysia is supposedly a "multicultural" place, where supposedly all religons co-exist side by side, why do we still have people showing their ignorance then? And I'm not just talking about you fantagero.

Okay, yesterday was the Prophet Muhammad's birthday, But I'd say it was Hari Raya yesterday, just because it sounds more "geng" and fun and sounds like more food to eat.

Believe me, some kiwi's know more about M'sia than you think. You can complain that the 'locals" may not understand Islam, but have you, as a Muslim, ever considered to understand other religons?

Since Malaysia is supposedly a "multicultural" place, where supposedly all religons co-exist side by side, why do we still have people showing their ignorance then? And I'm not just talking about you fantagero.

Easter is on Sunday, Haya. I sincerely hope that was a blooper otherwise...

And no, some people don't need to go to East Malaysia to know what Easter is. We Westies aren't all that dumb!

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Added on March 21, 2008, 5:14 pm
If you're going to play this game, let me ask - how many Malaysians know anything about New Zealand? Many people I know think NZ is part of Australia. Some others have no clue that the seasons are reversed in the Southern Hemisphere!

Btw on the global scale of things (and contrary to what Mahathir tried to have us believe), Malaysia is a pretty insignificant country. NZ is not.
To the first question - yes actually.

To the second - I didn't even understand what you said. How about some comprehensible English? You're in NZ after all.
Islam is a almost non-existent in NZ. I Kiwi could live his life without knowing a single Muslim.

Christianity and other religions are not insignificant in Malaysia. You'd be hard pressed to have never met/gone to school with a Christian or other non-Muslim in your life (and if you did, it's a total failure of our system to segregate our students like that). It's a common courtesy to know at least some of the most basic facts of your friends/classmates/neighbour's religion.

This is what happens when the authorities in a country treat other religions like anathema.

okay guys, the point has been made, we are all aware of the shortcomings of the politicised msian education system.......it to an individual's disadvantage if he/she is ignorant of the world around him/her, so it is up to the individual to realise that and correct the deficiency........so let's let it rest now, okay?..........

just so u know, 4A flat STPM = medicine in NUS. its as good as guaranteed.
many friends that score stpm simply study in spore.

1. true
2. KBKK, kemahiran berfikir secara kritis dan kreatif. its in our syllabus for all subj.
3. in the end of the day, its still exams be it in UK, NZ or even uni. at least at your foundation years.

probably ur school sux, or mine is good. but hell, time changes.

time changed.
least we know our local scenario.
teenagers are wearing lingam's trademark "correct Correct Correct" T-shirts.
the internet has broaden our minds.
our current gov dont send u overseas so that you come back and stop them corrupting

so u come back 2 serve them properly and be loyal to do whatever you're asked to do.
cheers, imho.

Unfortunately EmperorMeng, it doesn't seem so, or else I would go back there in a heartbeat (subject to terms and conditions through).

References:
http://www.law.auckland.ac.nz/uoa/law/for/...s/selection.cfm
http://www.canterbury.ac.nz/courses/undergrad/llb.shtml
http://www.otago.ac.nz/courses/qualifications/llb.html

I don't see what's the problem. Some people will want to settle down in nz on a long term basis. The sooner they adapt to the system and environment, the better.

Not everyone's future in M'sia is as bright as yours y'know.

Actually, it depends on how you perceive it. I do think that your office mate is trying very hard to avoid them, which is not necessary, but again, mixing with fellow Malaysians usually means that you won't get the chance to mix with the locals in NZ, which I thought it's extremely sad, but true. I came here with my partner and with no other friends at all, met with a couple of Malaysians here in NZ who are also new to the country, they treat kiwis as pure acquaintance, nothing more...not to mention people from other countries. Yes, you'll feel more comfortable, but what's the point of studying overseas if so?

There's also a general stereotypical mindset that Malaysian Organization or whatever you call them are full of Malays, naive actually to be honest. So what??? Not racism to be honest, but like you said...mixing with your fellow countrymen makes you more comfortable. Utter bull crap if you ask me. My best Malaysian mate is now a Malay girl who shares the same mindset as me. She even told me that Malays think that she's 'Sombong' just because she mixes with people from other ethnic origin. Same goes to me where I join the Americans for occasional Texas Hold'em, Kiwis for touch rugby and basketball...My so-called Malaysian friends start to think that I am a snob for not joining them for clubbing sessions.

Worst of all, just because of a case or two of racist chants from the drunkards on the streets, they started saying bad things about the Kiwis and even proudly mention about how they screwed Caucasians when they were back in Malaysia. There was a day when me and my partner was watching movie in the common room, full of Kiwis, one of them came in and speak Chinese to us in a loud tone. I have no problem with that, but while watching movie? And speaking your native language in a loud manner? Spare some thoughts please.

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Added on March 26, 2008, 8:23 am

erm, just something to add on, I've met with a few Muslims from Oman, Indonesia as well as Pakistan. Even though they pray and do pay attention to some religious views, most of them aren't exactly religious as well. I guess that's why they don't bother to buy meats from halal places. Don't get me wrong, I have absolutely no problem with your religion, I'm just sharing my thoughts.

generally, there are wide variations in muslim practices in different parts of the world, and many muslims from other parts of the world are not as strict as msian muslims......don't flame me, this is a fact, and if you have mixed with a broad spectrum of nationalities, you will agree with me......it's the same for other religions as well........

Ok don't flame me here... this is just my take on it.

The problem here is that it's next to impossible to leave Islam in many countries. If you were Buddhist but no longer subscribe to the beliefs, you can leave Buddhism. If you were Christian and decided it's not for you, you can choose to turn your back on it. So the problem of 'Buddhists' and 'Christians' who do things completely against their religions is not so common, simple because those who don't like it just leave and are no longer associated with it. Same for other religions. I know there are exceptions and cultural 'Buddhists' and 'Christians' (those who profess to be so thanks to family etc without actually practicing it) but it's not so much of an issue.

Whereas with Muslims, those who don't believe can't just leave. So they're forced to comply and act Islamic while in Saudi etc but the first chance they get, they're off doing whatever they want. So they're not Muslims at heart, but in name only (cos they have no choice about it).

word .

btw, some muslim guy converted to christianity in rome on Easter.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080322/lf_af...am_080322230101

emm..ok. everybody have their own opinions..
yah~ also arabian..in their place..they were like follow all the rules..
wearing purdah and all..but then when they were outside from their country
they just do what they want..also drink a beer..
i saw in front of my eyes, when i was doing my umrah..
in Jeddah airport..these two girls are so sweet and beautiful with their tudung and jubah..
when we arrived in Singapore airport..free hair-skirt-singlet
what happen? im not telling bad things about muslim..don't get me wrong
it happens to other religions too..
evry religions, have their own rules to follow
and it is just the same as others..
it depends, whether they want to obey or break the law..huhu~

until now you still cannot find your fave brand?? uuuu...
what's wrong with deodarant? i bought about two of my deodarant..lol
and that 'girl's monthly white thing'..i bought it a load..dont worry..
i have some perencah..new set of stationery..tooth brush..and bla bla
any special requests?

yup! my parents wil accompany me..so i can bring more than 20kg..haha! my bag is like so big you know..
until my dad said.."put your house in that bag too.." haha!

after i asked everyody about the windbreaker and sweater thing..they said that better buy it in Msia rather than NZ bcoz it is more cheaper..
but when i watched video of my college..
all the 'mat salleh' like wearing t-shirt, singlet..
so i was thinking, people in NZ will be so relax with their weather and all..while im wearing a windbreaker like a snowman!! 

hey, how long have you been there?

Been reading through this thread and saw this question unanswered. So to answer your question Fantagero, yes its reliable. Used it since 2005 and so far no problems yet with the service unless your stuff get lost in the post. But, if you used courier instead of normal nz mail, then you would be fine although the stuff can be a bit pricey compared to normal retailers.

Christchurch.