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QUOTE(wornbook @ Mar 31 2008, 05:25 PM)
Also, no consideration for people of other religions in Malaysia. We take care to ensure no pork is served, but what about beef? Hindu's don't eat beef. What about vegetarians? They might as well not exist. A shame since we're a multi-racial, multi-religious society.
Excuse my ignorance but what's samak and rukhsah?
Ya when overseas you do what you can. Have you thought about the difficulties when it comes to puasa? Ramadan is in summer/late autumn now, ie very long daylight hours (not so bad in NZ compared to some places). And if you're in a hall or residence/hostel, you can't get them to serve you breakfast before sunrise and dinner after sunset. Actually dinner might be possible since many places do late dinners for those who have classes/sports. But breakfast is an issue.
My friends - they just did 12 hours puasa. 7am-7pm or something like that. To them, the important thing is between themselves and God, their hearts are sincere... no need to worry about what others think. Some other I know did the full sunrise to sunset thing... but they were flatting and handled their own meals.
Each to his own I guess.
maybe bcoz vege, still not that common in malaysia.. at least in my place
and for hindu.. i already got mindset, if wanna share food with hindu. let say we making jamuan.. we wont order beef.. chicken at least.. no need to ask or realise,, it's already in my mindset..
but i noticed food serving shop starts to mention about beef in food..
in malaysia, if one need specific diet ie vege.. maybe the person must ask..
puasa? not that difficult.. compare to people go for haj.. the puasa even longer than half a day if i'm right. plus, they puasa in the airplane somore.
about the food.. ehmm well.. are u going to sacrifice ur good deed to a food... still can figure out a way rite.. for the believer at least..
like u can take the dinner as usual and keep it till buka puasa.. for the meal before sunrise.. u can take the breakfast.. keep in freezer rite.. that's the usage of technology

then u got microwave oven to easily heat the food up..
huhu even in malaysia.. many skip their sahur (breafast b4 sunrise) bcoz sleep more important. hahha like me.
QUOTE(<EdLiNa> @ Mar 31 2008, 07:19 PM)
thank God you came up with this topic..
i forgot about it..
ehmm..need to think lots more
how about if i bring my own utensils? huhu..
yah..its kinda hard when we have to share things with other religions..
need to discuss with others and make them understand ..and it is good that NZ is very particular with the food..
like for the vegeterian and who doesnt take beef and all that..
but still the time for fasting is not so different like msia right?
just having prob for sahur..
but maybe we can eat bread..
buy anything prepare for sahur..
actually we got lots of thing to eat..
bread and strawberry or choc jam..wow!
or with eggs and add some mayo..fuuhh!! yummy~

utensil can buy here... huhuuh make sure every weight is for long term use here and for the stuff that is extremely expensive..
btw.. edlina.. the discussion with other religion.. that;s the main point u study oversea.. to open ur mind.
hahah i also nervous b4.. plus my not so fluent english.. i was afraid my friend gonna misunderstood me..

but hey.. until now.. still ok
but u must explain smart..
many of my senior staying with non muslim alone.. still can survive..
sometime they told us.. it's quite disappointing when people terguna ur plate to eat ham.. but just be patience.. that's the key.. u cant blame them 100%.. same like we in malaysia..
one of my senior female flatting with 5 male non muslim(omputih), and she's the only female. muslim some more.. still can survive till today..
later on u know how laa.. the definition of word "HARD".
the toilet no pipe.. use tissue only.. and then, gayung is not common thing here, and when u want to "uk uk", u must take water from the sink.. then u have to mop the floor.. bcoz the water is all over the place.. my friend's house, the toilet got carpet somemore..
then later.. if u got class that clash with ur solat time.. u have to pray at the hallway..
then have to use "hukum huff" bcoz of the water so sejuk, u cant tahan to take wudu..
then when u go shopping.. there is no surau... so u cant shopping the whole day.. but female still can pray in the breast feeding room.. but must bring telekung. for male.. pray anywhere la. just bring compass and sejadah
lucky u can think of these stuff before go here.. haha i also never think of these tiny mint stuff when arrived here.. especially the "uk uk" part.. hahha
dont forget bring compass k.. the kiblat compass one.. maybe u can buy the digital one..

i heard today's canggih handphone got compass
Added on March 31, 2008, 7:56 pmabout samak and rukhsah.. i'll ask forumer with better explanation to asnwer it here.. so.. hold it first
in brief.. dog and pig are under najis berat.. so.. need to samak to clean it
the word najis is what makes typical muslim feel disgust about both

the truth is.. the dog is still a dog.. many muslim also keep dog as pet too

i'm sure u seen the pic of malay student in upm posting with dog
Added on March 31, 2008, 8:03 pmQUOTE(wornbook @ Mar 31 2008, 05:25 PM)
Also, no consideration for people of other religions in Malaysia.
We take care to ensure no pork is served, but what about beef? Hindu's don't eat beef. What about vegetarians? They might as well not exist. A shame since we're a multi-racial, multi-religious society.
Excuse my ignorance but what's samak and rukhsah?
Ya when overseas you do what you can. Have you thought about the difficulties when it comes to puasa? Ramadan is in summer/late autumn now, ie very long daylight hours (not so bad in NZ compared to some places). And if you're in a hall or residence/hostel, you can't get them to serve you breakfast before sunrise and dinner after sunset. Actually dinner might be possible since many places do late dinners for those who have classes/sports. But breakfast is an issue.
My friends - they just did 12 hours puasa. 7am-7pm or something like that. To them, the important thing is between themselves and God, their hearts are sincere... no need to worry about what others think. Some other I know did the full sunrise to sunset thing...
but they were flatting and handled their own meals.
Each to his own I guess.
baru teringat.. about beef.
i've never encounter with that problem.. i mean..if me, i will ask, is the food halal?? what's the ingredient....
so..same goes with the hindu i think..
from what ive seen.. many hindu will ask.. ade beef tak??
huhu it's not like the shop can detect ur religion by face only..
i mean. u can look indian.. but the fact is, u r muslim.. haha
i remember my roomate.. he got the indian looks.. but he's actually got Pakistan blood.. he said he encounter the situation where the shop tell him.. "ini ada beef, u takleh makan".. he was like

that's the advantage of flatting and self-catered. u can eat whenever, whatever u like

hahah dont let the food controls u
This post has been edited by fantagero: Mar 31 2008, 08:25 PM