QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Jun 21 2007, 10:18 AM)
Well, most of our tropical fruits are okay to be given to gliders, I've given mine rose apples(jambu air), jackfruit, ciku, water chestnut, lychee and guava, besides the normal apples, pears, papaya, mango, watermelon, honeydew and so on. So far so good, but things need to watch is their poo after feeding lah, some fruits can cause the poo to be very smelly, some makes 'em liquidish. Ohh, and I feed them veggies too, like carrots, cherry tomatoes and sweetpea

The ones we know to avoid are those higher phosphorus ration than calcium, plus grapes, corn, avacado and iceberg lettuce

Huhh, Shadow bit Snow? Yeah, I think without his brother feel a bit scared

Aiyoh, PF ker

Was thinking to get the Explorarium, Flextray and some leaves... Haihhh, nevermind lah.
Iggy and Luna starting to smell a bit lah, but not as bad yet lah

So geram lah, it's still more of Luna's smell lah, remember I told you that she rubs her body at the bottom of the cage? I think thats why she stinks

Dunno what to do anymore...
Ahh, Iggy and Luna's joey? Haihhh, hope not too soon, what with Luna's condition...
Ohh, lately I dunno who has been doing it, but someone has been biting off the leaves and putting them in the pouch, so terkejut when I put my hand in the pouch and felt something else, thot was an insect or cockroach, rupanya the leaves... Do you know why ahh? Making nest??

KP
Cherry tomatoes can? Hmmm... haven't tried Ciku or Nangka coz I don't like those fruits hahahah.... I do give carrots too and Kiah likes to chew Sawi... really cute to watch. Right now even her mix has a slice of carrot and a sawi leaf inside. I know papaya makes the poo smelly ahahah.
I think they want to make the nest comfy. Try leaving some tissue paper inside their cage and see what happens. I don't have any fake plants in my cage so Kiah doesn't do anything strange.... so far lah.
Jarrah miss Shadow... today Jarrah made a soft hissing sound, like calling and calling... then he look at me pulak. Naughty boy still crabs but he is better now, not so crabby in the pouch.
QUOTE(Taipan1 @ Jun 21 2007, 12:28 PM)
Thanks Hun & KP for the info. I will be getting Calc. & Vitamin supplements anyway when I decide to get.
Yes Hun I finally got on - for some reason the forum would not accept the ( business's ) email address but I tried a gmail address that a friend set up for me which works. The "Bat Ray" photos I have seen in a Taiwanese stingray magazine weird !!
Thks again
Ohh... no wonder. The Bat rays are weird, got 1 farm breeding them in thailand, looks like deformed, some looked like butterflys too...
Hahah... Out of topic already.
So when will you be getting your gliders? Are they easy to find in Thailand?
QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Jun 21 2007, 04:13 PM)
No prob!
Okay people, been wanting to ask y'all about this, keep on forgetting or no time to type it out
What do you use for you suggies perching/resting place in the cage? (ie, the perching stick that come with the cage, Exo Terra vines, etc)
Currently I'm using Exo Terra vines. I used to use the perching stick that came with the cage plus the vines, but I find that the stick absorbs pee and is very-very-very stinky even tho I have washed it with soap and dry it out. The smell just sticks on it

So I had it removed and am now just using the vines.
Unfortunately now I find that the vines stinks too!! I clean the cage every week, wash the tray and wipe the bars, I even wash the cage throughly with hot water and bleach once a month, but I still find it smelly right after all the cleaning I've done. Then I took a sniff on the vines, phewww, they stink too

I resorted to washing all the vines and hang dry it outside, BUT, the smell does not go away!
Arghhh! I'm thinking to have it all removed... But I couldn't, cuz Iggy and Luna loves to sit on the vines or play around it, they need perching places. So now, I am cracking my head like mad to think of the best solution or best type of perching place to replace the vines. I have a few fleece rope that I sew and tie it from wall to wall, but that is not a good/stable perching place, Iggy and Luna uses it to hang upside down or walk/crawl on it only. I'm thinking of using PVC pipes or those plastic mesh so that it can be washed easily, but I don't know whether they can grip on the PVC pipes or even how to make a stable perching place using the plastic mesh without using the cable tie (if I use cable tie, I won't be able to remove it to wash it

)
Ohh, I even thot of purchasing those long spiral like branches at PS, but worry it will absorb the pee too because the surface is untreated. Unless if I use varnish or something... But I worry it could harm the suggies...
How?
Does anyone here has a solution? Or using something that doesn't absorb the pee or can easily be washed?

KP
What you can do is soak the vines in a solution of water and baking soda for 10 minutes, then just sun it without washing off the baking soda. Perfectly safe. Seems baking soda is a good deodorizer. Oh, you can get 1 500g bag of organic baking soda at Ikano's organic shop for only Rm2.50....
There is no substitute for the vines but natural tree branches... I have 1 branch but I have no idea what tree it is but it seems safe and has no bark on it anymore.... most of our fruit tree branches here are toxic. The safest I think would be the hibiscus plant but then the branches on a hibiscus plant are so thin and small..... Rambutan and rose apple branches are not suitable, toxic..... erm, I think Guava is safe coz it is recommended for parrots.