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post May 22 2007, 11:56 AM

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You can search for Leadbeater's mix if you want to blend some things up. It can be found in the same website you search for the rep-cal and vionate smile.gif

Or just google for it. There are many versions so search carefully.

But if you start blending things up, you will need a fridge to store it too. You can't blend it in small portion.

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post May 22 2007, 12:56 PM

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I'm afraid anything fresh you blend will not even last 1 day.

If you feed anything at night, you must remove any leftover the next morning cuz it will be rotten and make your glider sick if they eat it.

Don't add mealworm or cricket to the blend, it will spoil everything faster and make the blended stuff smellier.

I think it is better not to the blending thing before you get a fridge.

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Added on May 22, 2007, 12:58 pmBtw, you can look for those mini fridge at almost any electrical store, be it malacca or KL. Go out and survey what fits your budget. We can't help you in that area. It'll cost you a few hundred.

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post May 22 2007, 02:29 PM

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Jon, check your post. Pls delete any double post.

Okay, let me ask you, the dog kibble, cat food & baby cereal in where???

Look at the amount used and the brand also. You cannot simple use any type cuz some dog kibble contains onion and such. It's in a mix and the amount is very little. It's blended with a lot of other stuff.

Little amount like this blended together should be okay. NOT given by it's own. This is what everyone here is saying about.

Do you know that gliders cannot take too hard food? It can lead to acondition called Lumpy Jaw which will be extremely painful to them. So feeding them dog kibbles and such is not only bad for their health and diet but can cause Lumpy Jaw because it it hard.

It is best to avoid the stuff if you cannot find it. It doesn't mean that the mix "tak jadi" because lack of one or two things. It can be modified accordingly. That's why we leave the mixing stuff to Hun.

Haihhh, if you are not sure, then simply don't do it lah. Wait til you get a fridge and has a way to get Hun's mix, it would be so much easier and less hassle like this.

Try and get in touch with tleilexu, he gets the mix from Hun, and he's in Malacca.

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post May 22 2007, 02:58 PM

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STOP!!!

No more flaming! I'm waiting for Hun to settle this.

Jon, CFP was refering to the fact that there is no mentioning about giving the dog food direct as glider food/staple diet.

You do not need to prove you are right about that there are places that mentioned about dog food, furthermore saying that other ppl say that they feed dog kibble to their glider. Dog kibbles is just plain wrong, altho other ppl do it, we don't, because we only give the best.

Hun where are you?

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post May 23 2007, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(cheaka @ May 23 2007, 11:46 AM)
I have been away since Sunday..so my husband had been a great help in taking care of them...

Got back last night..noticed Gollum's tail was curled up...any one know the reason ah?......i tried to pull back..he curl it up back...

As for Eowyn...i noticed some marking at her pouch??..is she bleeding....is she having her PMS ah??

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Haha, I'll be away this weekend, so nak tak nak, my husband also have to take care of my suggies tongue.gif

Curling tail is nothing lah I think, sometimes they do it, sometimes they don't. Mostly when they're sleeping or sitting still, it's curled up.

As for Eowyn, I dunno. Better check carefully. But it's definitely not PMS, animals don't get PMS lah.

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post May 23 2007, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(cheaka @ May 23 2007, 03:52 PM)
Yeahyeah....it looks like the male scent gland on their chest...but for eowyn will be at her pouch..... sad.gif
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Cheaka, male have 3 scent gland spot,

1-head
2-chest
3-anus

female have 2 scent gland spot,

1-inside the pouch
2-anus

I think it's just the scenting smile.gif

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post May 23 2007, 05:25 PM

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Yup, it's here... So cool and big blink.gif

Check the thread okay, I hope to gather everyone one shot smile.gif

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post May 24 2007, 10:07 AM

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Sangterap, I don't think gliders will be wiped out the face of the earth pretty soon. There's an article on Glider University recently saying that there's just too many breeders out there that they might even cause overpopulation of gliders that could lead to a lot of unwanted ones and such. That's why they advise to neuter the males if people intend to keep a male and a female. Some breeders in the US even, only sells neutered males to prevent them from breeding. Plus neutering the male can reduce the smell and baldspot. However I have not yet found any vet that could do it here. I am still searching because the best method would be thru using laser as it heals faster. But as you would know, a lot of typical malaysian is against neutering with the reason it's cruel. When I found a vet that can perform neutering on gliders, I will let everyone know, but I bet 9 out of 10 will be against it. Peace.

Jon, do you know at what age a glider reaches maturity and is ready to mate?

Snow, it's called love bite actually smile.gif Especially when a glider has bond with you and start nibbling you, they're actually showing love tongue.gif It's true because they do this to the tree they love in the wild smile.gif So now you are her tree, so she nibbles you biggrin.gif Although you have to say no to her from time to time when it gets a little hard so that she knows it's not good. Iggy loves to nibble my arm when I give it to him. Last nite her was running around my shoulder and started nibbling my ear and neck pulak blink.gif Had to say no to him cuz it stings if he nibbles my neck smile.gif

Last night something bad happend to Luna sad.gif You see, on top of the cage is my smelly shirt, so I always put the bonding pouch on top of the shirt, even with Iggy. It has always been fine with Iggy, however, I didn't quite know yet that Luna likes to put her little arm out and try to grab things... So right before I went to sleep, Luna was making a lot of noise by jumping here and there in the cage, when I approached, I noticed that she had actually got herself caught in the bonding pouch's string... Goodness, it was already twisted and tangled due to her jumping around. I quickly try to grab her to release the string, she crabbed and started biting my hand, had to bear with it while telling her that I was just trying to help. She finally calm down and I managed to free her. Then she sat quietly at the bottom of the cage. I slowly stroke her and massage the are where the string was caught, she relaxed a bit and looked pretty scared. A few minutes later she was up and jumping again. Pheww, I was scared she injured her leg. So people, don't go hanging or placing the bonding pouch within your suggies reach, you'll never know what they'll do...

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post May 24 2007, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(JonYeap @ May 24 2007, 10:22 AM)
Sexual Maturity:
Females (8-12 months)
Males    (12-15 months)

It is best to wait a year old if anyone has plan to breed them. Normally they breed 2 and max 3 times a year. Averaging 4 joey's per year by a female glider.
It takes 16 days for the breeding day to the day the babies are born. Human around 9 months, glider 16 days nia. So fast...

Is this correct?
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Gliders reach maturity at 7 months onwards.

True, they breed only twice a year with a max of 2 joeys at a time (altho 3 can happen, but very rare)

Yes, it takes only 16 days from the day they mate for the joey to be born in the, but we cannot see them or remove them from the pouch until they Out Of Pouch (OOP)

I'm just asking this because whenever there's mentioned of male and female glider, you say will *ehem* or breed.

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post May 24 2007, 11:21 AM

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Although breeding is natural to animals, we can't force them if they're not breeding right? And I don't think there's anything wrong as long as both are healthy smile.gif Sometimes the surroundings also plays a major role in it smile.gif

Sugre, suggie mating does sound like they're fighting, similar with little difference only smile.gif Ahh, sometimes the white bit in the eye is just the "taik mata" laugh.gif Iggy also sometimes have especially when he just woke up and belum groom himself tongue.gif

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Added on May 24, 2007, 11:27 am
QUOTE(sangterap @ May 24 2007, 11:19 AM)
So if their urges are stronger than the gliders, just do it with a little consideration...

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Yup, got it smile.gif

That's why there's mention about unwanted ones which is the not so good ones lah.

But if their urges are stronger than the gliders, would they actually consider quality?

Haha, just something to ponder about, not to answer. I don't want this to ba a lengthy discussion pulak tongue.gif

Anyhow, I'd support good quality breed anytime wink.gif

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post May 24 2007, 11:55 AM

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Yeah, we are their tree and they love to chew their tree blink.gif Hahaha...

Hmm, hope we all can gather to give the wodent wheel, so mebbe can show how to cut their nails too smile.gif I think CFP also wants to know how smile.gif

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post May 24 2007, 12:33 PM

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Purple color? blink.gif

Yeah, so lucky, normally even the slightest weird sound coming from either Iggy or Luna, I will go and check.

I think she was playing with the string cuz it got caught by her tummy, before both hind legs, I thot one leg only caught, rupa2nya both... She also peed because scared I think, the string was soaked lagi susah sikit to untangle... Poor Luna sad.gif

Hmm, yesterday first day bonding with her, kept her in the pouch underneath my shirt summore, look like pregnant only blush.gif She was okay, but crabbed a few times when I checked on her smile.gif Back from work, still have her with me, terdoze off while watching TV and woke up with her looking at me tongue.gif

Haihh, noticed some weird ettiques of hers too, dunno how to explain, mebbe when we meet smile.gif Makes me think that it's gonna take a while too, to bond with her...

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post May 24 2007, 12:57 PM

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Wahh, what a story smile.gif

Can almost see you in his eyes in the last pix wink.gif

Chiwek, so cute lah he was little, but no doubt still handsome now smile.gif

Haha, human husband should learn a thing or two from Chiwek tongue.gif

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post May 24 2007, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(hamster9 @ May 24 2007, 01:07 PM)
when he was seperated with Oshine , he refuses to eat, he refuse to play and it's like his whole world is Oshine. He would roam around the room in hope Oshine would be there.
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That's why lah seperation from a partner/friend they've got to know can cause stress to suggies. Such sensitive and emotional critter we have wink.gif

I would think that he is now ever so happy to be with Oshine all the time smile.gif

I'm sure he still respects his big mommy, don'tcha Chiwek wink.gif

I like Kiah's under body fur, look so white and clean smile.gif Hun jaga so well rclxms.gif Iggy and Luna already has yellowish one, don't think can be as clean anymore...

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post May 24 2007, 04:57 PM

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I said white AND clean tongue.gif

Iggy now inside my shrug, got another top inside, not so geli lah, but this is the first time he masuk inside my baju, cuz I force him to come out of his pouch, hahaha tongue.gif Dunno now sleeping or what inside sweat.gif

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post May 24 2007, 05:22 PM

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I wouldn't say he likes to masuk inside baju, he just want to hide somewhere and sleep without me kacau him, hahaha laugh.gif

Normally he climbs inside my tudung, but mebbe cuz my shrug open a bit, so he masuk and yeah, now is settled into sleep biggrin.gif

Well, even tho Iggy sleeps most of the day, I still carry him around, to office, shopping, at home watch TV, so he's used to "sleeping walking", hahaha.

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post May 24 2007, 05:41 PM

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Plastic sound makes Iggy go crazy too laugh.gif

No idea why, perhaps it's too loud for their ears?? But then how can Kiah don care?

Other sounds he's okay, just sleep also... But I think if he's sleeping and got plastic sound, he just stir a little only...

When I was at my neighbour's house with Iggy, he went under the couch and didn't want to come out when I was about to leave, so he left me no choice..... I took a plastic bag and crumpled it! He immediately ran out from under the couch and jumped onto me straight to my shoulder and sat still with bewildered eyes laugh.gif I told him, "Hahh, tu lah, notty sangat..." tongue.gif

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post May 29 2007, 09:42 AM

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Hello everyone smile.gif

What a long weekend. Went away for 2 days, left Iggy & Luna with my husband, was so worried sweat.gif But they're okay smile.gif Somehow, they have managed to amke themselves so smelly, so will definitely need to visit Hun's Suggie Spa too wink.gif

Luna is really smelly compared to Iggy, can't use baby wipe yet cuz she still crabs like mad if I try to touch her in the pouch... Such a tough girl... She's okay with me feeding her, massaging from outside the pouch, even petting her if I push her head out from the pouch, but she won't let me put my hand in the pouch, crab like made and wanna strike a bite!

The wodent wheel, Iggy dunno how to use, lazy bum. So gave it to Luna instead which she automatically loves to play with smile.gif

Oh Cheaka, chattering sound is made when a suggie is happy smile.gif The sound is similar like you do when you call a cat right? It almost means, "hello, nice to see you" laugh.gif

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post May 29 2007, 06:00 PM

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Haha, dun worry la CFP, sooner or later they'll know how to use it and will love it. I think they'll learn faster if you can hang it in the cage. My cage cannot, that's why. Furthermore Iggy is a climber, while Luna is crawler, and I have to place the wodent wheel at the bottom of the cage, so naturally, Luna will explore la smile.gif Later when put them together, I hope Luna can teach Iggy how to use it wink.gif

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post May 31 2007, 10:12 AM

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Research on how to introduce two gliders properly. Then if if there's anything that you do not understand, baru ask.

But introducing joeys should be easier and no problem.

You can also read thru prev post in this thread, there might be discussions on stuff that you would want to know.

I have also personally told you about the bonding first right?

Do some research before asking basic questions.

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